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Things I hate about Mash:


* Margaret's CONSTANT YELLING, omg, STOP YELLING, YOU LOUD-MOUTH!!

* Klinger and his act. Be a man for the love of Mike...

* Sydney acting like some Messianic figure, pompous prick that he was

* Hawkeye and BJ always praising Sydney like he was some Messianic figure, that pompous prick...

* BJ's mustache

* How fat Charles got year after year

* How Frank was disrespected

* How racist Hawkeye was (Spearchucker, are you kidding me??)

* How pompous and self-righteous Hawkeye was



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* How racist Hawkeye was (Spearchucker, are you kidding me??)



That's his name, genius. That was his name in the book, in the movie, and finally here, and he was called that because he was an expert with a javelin.

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It's intentionally racist and meant to get a laugh, as if laughing at racism is okay.

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It is.

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The really racist thing about this situation was the people who complained to the show that there were no African American surgeons in Korea and the producers caved in and fired the actor.

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It was a nickname, not his real name. However, he didn't have any problem with it, so neither do I.

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Then why watch?

Damn, I'm good.

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I'm with you all the way on Sydney. Smirking, condescending bastard...

- HOW kin I be so brainless, when I is so smart?

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Yeah, he did seem to be pretty full of himself. And Frank was right for laughing at him for writing a letter to Sigmund Fraud.

Who in their right mind writes letters to dead famous people?

What a weird premise.

Damn, I'm good.

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* BJ's mustache

* How fat Charles got year after year


Now you're just nitpicking and being superficial.

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Sidney's approach to psychology seemed to me like it was based on a literature major who had heard about psychology, but never had a psychology class in his life. Instead, he read books on the true meaning of dreams, handwriting analysis, and biorhythms. That's the only way he could come up with the billfold syndrome, that line about taking off your pants and sliding on the ice, and answering problems with things like, "Maybe that's exactly what they need," followed by a bonfire.

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Well-said. He was a phony and a charlatan.


"You can just stand there and let him kick your ass!" Karate Kid III

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Yeah and what was the deal with his treatment of "Getting them back on the line as soon as possible?" No wonder that kid hated him. I love it when he says, "Don't come near me, butcher!" Butcher. What a great insult. But seriously, why would any psychologist put a shell shocked soldier back on the line ASAP? That never made sense. Send them to Tokyo for a little R & R and some Geisha action first, then get them back to the line. Or how about making that soldier with amnesia relive his own brother's death by hypnotizing him and then reenacting the battle that killed him? That dude was whack.

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The hypnotism thing was always weird to me, especially how he had others in the room making battlefield noises.

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Man, I thought I was the only one who got a little creeped out by Sydney over the years.

Yeah and what was the deal with his treatment of "Getting them back on the line as soon as possible?" No wonder that kid hated him. I love it when he says, "Don't come near me, butcher!" Butcher. What a great insult. But seriously, why would any psychologist put a shell shocked soldier back on the line ASAP? That never made sense. Send them to Tokyo for a little R & R and some Geisha action first, then get them back to the line. Or how about making that soldier with amnesia relive his own brother's death by hypnotizing him and then reenacting the battle that killed him? That dude was whack.


This was actually SOP for the latter part of the Vietnam War, albeit not for WWII (and probably not for the Korean War, either). In WWI, "shell shocked" soldiers were simply ordered back into the lines and shot as cowards or deserters if they freaked out and ran.

In WWII, it was called "combat fatigue" and they would hospitalize them and basically not let them go back out onto the front line. A few soldiers were able to get back with their units, but it didn't always end well because the treatment they'd received made them feel weak and as if they had let down their comrades, had something to prove. There was also a fair amount of Freud.

By Vietnam, there was some recognition that, for example, the many African American soldiers were affected more harshly by combat conditions because they were also victims of institutional racism. By this time, the thinking was coming into effect that a lot of a soldier's self-worth and what we would now call his support system came from his unit. Take him away from his unit and put him in a hospital for too long, and you risked removing his support system permanently. So, there was the thought that a soldier needed to be put back with his unit as soon as possible to maintain that support system. After Vietnam is when we start seeing it called PTSD.

Of course, there were still plenty of commanders of the WWI attitude throughout, but the above may explain where the writers were coming from with Sydney.

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and ur a retard. Sidney freeman couldn't help ur sorry ass

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Yes he could. He could fix anything by pulling down his pants and sliding on ice. Or starting a bonfire. Either one makes things better.

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I'm going to start applying some of Sidney's psychology in my everyday life and work.

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Try not to use retard as an insult. It's ignorant and cruel. It also makes you sound jr high.

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like I care what u think

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You.sound PC.

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You sound like an asshole.

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And the difference between a phony and a charlatan is what?

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That's the thing with so many movies and tv shows, they are written by people who never research the character or their field of expertise. So you get these half baked psychological concepts and especially back then the viewers weren't as fussy as they are now, so no one cares or says anything about it.

The Bonfire one was so simplistic too, let them burn stuff and that will fix everything.

Really?

Sometimes a movie or tv show plot is so stupid that only the stupid can understand it.

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Henry had a hard time disciplining the unit. I don't think Colonel Potter would have done any better. He let Hawkeye do whatever he wanted and he got away with a lot.

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First of all, Sidney was a psychiatrist, not a psychologist. His medical training comes to prominence in the episode where the MASH is swamped and they have him perform the more basic surgeries. Second, he was a great character. I loved the episodes he was in.

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I can't imagine why you would want to watch MASH if you hate it so much

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I don't know the OP personally but quite a few of us watched it while pretty young. At a young age a lot of us were oversold on the antiauthority aspect. Then we grew up and started to realize just how far the show was from reality which was more than we ever anticipated as an early teen. I would say quite a number of us may not have seen a given episode for decades but the memory is good enough to make comment today.

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I don't know the OP personally but quite a few of us watched it while pretty young. At a young age a lot of us were oversold on the antiauthority aspect. Then we grew up and started to realize just how far the show was from reality which was more than we ever anticipated as an early teen. I would say quite a number of us may not have seen a given episode for decades but the memory is good enough to make comment today.
This is me. I'm barely older than this show, but started seeing it around the last season and then saw the rest of it after that since it went straight into rerun syndication, and I was totally in love with it. The I fell out of love with the later seasons. Then the middle season. Now, I'm not even sure the first three were that good.

I've had exactly the opposite experience with the movie. First caught it in my late teens and hated it. When saw it again, I realized it wasn't bad. And now I love it.

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I watched it in it's first run when I was in my twenties, and I loved it. Now I see the repetitiveness of the same corny jokes, and worst of all, the sanctimony of Alda and Farrell constantly spouting their specious ideological hooey, especially in the later seasons.

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* Margaret's CONSTANT YELLING, omg, STOP YELLING, YOU LOUD-MOUTH!!


No kidding. She got on my nerves in the episode "Dear Sis" when she asked for Father Mulcahy's help with an unruly soldier and then proceeded to nag and yell at him when he wasn't able to get the soldier under control either. She should have just called for an M. P. to help instead of screaming at him for something she wasn't even able to do.

As for the list, I would like to add that I didn't like that Col. Potter came on as regular Army, just the opposite of Henry Blake, but eventually started looking the other way like Blake did when it came to the stunts Hawkeye would pull.

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After Charles being the most boring and monotonous character, Margaret was the most irksome. Her frequent outbursts and tantrums and incessant cat-like shrieking was truly insufferable.

Here comes another vote for BJ's mustache. It was just as bad as the one David Soul had in the final season of Starsky & Hutch.

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Margaret's screaming & constant whining is irritating.
The only cast member to come close to being that annoying was KELLYE, who constantly whines @ Hawkeye in "Hey, Look Me Over," a good candidate for one of the show's worst eps.

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More generally: Hawkeye's attitude/behavior that if THEY or even just HIM left, The War and all The Killing would somehow END.

More specifically: Things like, in the season 6 episode where Potter has 1 year until retirement. And then the show goes on FIVE MORE YEARS. At the end everyone looked at least 10 years older including Potter/Harry Morgan who was only on the show for about 7 1/2 years. Meanwhile the actual war only lasted 3 years.

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