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THE BOB NEWHART SHOW vs. FRASIER


Both these sitcoms revolve around the private and professional lives of psychiatrists.

But, IMHO, Newhart's program is the superior of the two.

Mind you, I like the cast of FRASIER, but I'm bored to tears by the constant in-your-face sexual context of the show.
It seems that the only thing the characters live for is to score!

On THE BOB NEWHART SHOW, however, sexual events are referred to as gentle innuendo, and it does not dominate the characters' lives.

Actually, I think every character on FRASIER needs therapy.

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Both these sitcoms revolve around the private and professional lives of psychiatrists.


Technically Frasier was a psychiatrist (MD), whereas Bob was a psychologist (PhD). The difference is that Bob couldn't prescribe medicine, but Frasier could. But both were basically portrayed as therapists.

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Sheesh, complaining about the sexual content of "Frasier" of all things sounds like something Ned Flanders would do. I used to watch that show with my Mom and never felt awkward the way I would have if, say, we'd been watching "Sex and the City" together.

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But both were basically portrayed as therapists.


And both were quacks!

I love the scene with Mr. Herd where Bob runs off a string of cliches, leaving Herd astonished at his brilliance!

-"you're locally known to be an overblown loser" -- JohnnyLawrence5, 20Jan2012

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To me, The Bob Newhart Show was one of the absolute funniest in TV history. Frasier was an often funny show that had many, many episodes that just were not funny.

While the careers of the two stars, three if you include Niles, were in the field of psychology, other than brief advice on his radio show, Frasier was never really involved in providing therapy, nor was Niles, while Bob spent lots of time with his patients, individually or in groups. There was a lot more emphasis on his work than there ever was on Frasier.

What you wrote about the Frasier characters living just to score is part of why it wasn't funny. It seems most of them were not portrayed as having the desire of developing a relationship with someone as much as they wanted to have sex sometime BEFORE the first date with that person.

It always seemed weird that they kept making jokes about Roz sleeping with any male who had a pulse, including people like Bulldog, who she otherwise hated, but they didn't joke about the other characters doing much the same thing. It was boring because we knew there wasn't going to be any long-lasting relationship and seeing how quickly they jumped into bed just wasn't that interesting.

When the Crane brothers were working together on something, they had some wonderful episodes. One of my favorites was when they worked to get into a really exclusive health spa and thought it fabulous--until they learned about the "Gold" room that was at that point denied them. They wormed their way into it and then believed there was a "Platinum" room even more exclusive and suddenly hated the "Gold" room only because it didn't seem to be the best.

While Frasier had some great episodes, it had more clunkers than hits. Bob Newhart had very few clunkers and lots of fabulous episodes.














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I feel that same way that you do about The Bob Newhart Show. I thought Bob and Emily had a wonderful marriage and they are one of my favorite TV couples. They didn't rely on the usual things to cause conflict that you see in husband/wife sitcoms today. I loved that when a woman would flirt with Bob, Emily didn't lose her mind or blame Bob, she was even a little amused by it.

Jerry was always trying to "score" but he was a minor character. I think that works better in a minor character.

I can't think of a character that I didn't like on this show.

With Frasier, those were the same episodes I enjoyed. When Frasier refused to pay $2 to get out of a parking garage, whenever they threw a party, and time they were playing off of each other it was great. When it revolved around Frasier's attempt at a love life it fell flat for me.

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Mind you, I like the cast of FRASIER, but I'm bored to tears by the constant in-your-face sexual context of the show.
It seems that the only thing the characters live for is to score!
That's a standard weakness of sitcoms after about 1990, and even drags down "Seinfeld" from time to time. TV went from a sexually repressed never-never land in the 1950s and 1960s to a sexually overindulgent and gratuitous always-always land that we're stuck with to this day.

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snsurone : The in your face sex of "FRASIER" ?

Really? I thought they handled it with a lot more professionalism & taste than say "Married...With Children". If you wanted to complain about sex in a sitocm,that'd be the one to compalin about.

Personally though, sex in a sitcom (either talked about or part of the plotline/story) doesn't bother me at all. Real adults don't gedt bothered by things that are ment to be for a mature audience.

To be an adult and complain about adult things is
contradictory to being a so called "grown up" in the first place.

Would you rather sitcoms focus on violence,death or other uncomfortable things? Sex is a part of life on earth for all humans and living species,since the dawn of time.


Sheesh!

Go for it or just be a gopher!
(MR.) happipuppi13 šŸ• *arf,man!*

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Happipuppi, I am going to stick up for snsurone, as far as this topic is concerned.

First, snsurone only compared Bob Newhart to Frasier because they were both centered on the life of a psychologist/psychiatrist. Nowhere did he/she suggest that Frasier was the worst show in connection to its handling of sexual matters. I think your bringing in Married with Children is irrelevant to the point.

Probably, snsurone would agree with meā€”and youā€”that sexual topics can be handled well in a sitcom. The complaint was the manner in which Frasier handled it. The quote was that ā€œthe only thing the characters (on Frasier) live for is to score!ā€

Your putdown that it is not ā€œadultā€ to complain about ā€œadult thingsā€ is quite misplaced. If we all practiced it, no movie critic could ever say a film intended for adults is poorly made. There is nothing immature about any adult, or teen, saying they didnā€™t like the way the characters on Frasier were focused way too much on ā€œscoringā€ and far too little on developing meaningful adult relationships. That, to me, is one of the biggest reasons I thought many of the Frasier episodes to be a waste of time to watch.

If you thought Frasier was funnier, thatā€™s fine with me. But I believe snsuroneā€™s criticism was well-stated in picking out that seriesā€™ biggest weakness.

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Both shows are great. They're different, and can't really be compared.

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