Girl getting raped...
Is it the same girl as the naked one on the motorcycle???????
shareNo. 2 different actresses.But it does make one wonder if she was the one Kowalski "saved".....however,he would have recognized her had she been the same one.(plus he could have identified her by her hOOters,and the police car's "chest" was bigger than the biker girls).
Why he didn't take the naked motorbike rider up on her sweet offer is a totally insane mystery to me. That type of thing only happens in the movies.
shareHe was still grieving for his girlfriend, plus by that point he had been awake something like 5 days (remember he took the Challenger right after finishing another run). By that time his mind was probably off in worlds we cannot even comprehend.
shareI don't know about you guys, but I'd be leery of a random naked biker chick in the desert all too willing to give it up to me too. God knows what kind of disease that cooch is packing.
shareIn your dreams, buddy.
shareIn my dreams what?
shareIn your dreams "a random naked biker chick in the desert all too willing to give it up to me".
shareOk...my post is obviously over your head, buddy. That's what happens in the movie. Kowalski doesn't partake of what she's offering, and if (key word) I was in that same situation, I sincerely doubt I would partake either. Any chick who's that willing to give it up, probably isn't worth the hassle of unzipping one's fly. Incase you're too thick to understand what that means, (most likely the case) she's all used up and her equipment is probably so loose that it hangs past her knees. It's bad enough every cop in the southwest is chasing me, I wouldn't want to be pissing razor blades too.
shareListen to me, little boy. I would lay large odds that you weren't even born when this film was made, which means you know zip about how things were then, apart from what you've seen and perhaps read - if they make comic books about that era.
All I will say is that life was very different then. If you know who your father is, ask him. You're obviously one of these males who thinks that women have no right to express their sexuality. She knew who Kowalski was, and was being nice in a way that suited her. You shouldn't compare her behaviour with that to which you are obviously more accustomed - and suited.
One thing I love about these boards is the amount of people who take time out from their burger flipping jobs to share the benefit of their vast knowledge and experience, courtesy of YouTube and similar websites. Back then we learned by experience, and didn't go running our mouths without knowing what we were talking about. If only you knew how stupid you look from here.
"Listen to me, little boy. I would lay large odds that you weren't even born when this film was made, which means you know zip about how things were then, apart from what you've seen and perhaps read - if they make comic books about that era."
I'll lay large odds you're either a 16 year old who's only sexual experience is masturbating to the underwear section of the sears catalog because mom blocked the porno sites, or an old loser who squandered his youth living too hard or not living at all during the period in which this film was made.
"All I will say is that life was very different then. If you know who your father is, ask him. You're obviously one of these males who thinks that women have no right to express their sexuality. She knew who Kowalski was, and was being nice in a way that suited her. You shouldn't compare her behaviour with that to which you are obviously more accustomed - and suited."
A whore is a whore, male or female. There's a difference between expressing your sexuality, say, showcasing your form via riding your motorycle naked, and being a whore, by offering yourself to anyone who comes along. That goes for men and women alike. You probably don't know the difference because you don't have a father around to teach you that.
"One thing I love about these boards is the amount of people who take time out from their burger flipping jobs to share the benefit of their vast knowledge and experience, courtesy of YouTube and similar websites. Back then we learned by experience, and didn't go running our mouths without knowing what we were talking about. If only you knew how stupid you look from here"
Maybe you should take your own advice and get back to work since you're the one who came on here with your moronic "in your dreams" poste, which was totally nonsensical, off topic to the OP's statement and completely missed the point of my original poste. You made an idiotic statement, which clearly demonstrates your trolling desire to start a thread fight. Any subsequent poste you make on this thread defending it only compounds its idiocy, so stop hijacking the thread and offer an answer to the OP's statement, an answer to the secondary question or refrain from posting entirely.
And you, of course, are staying completely on topic by making cheap and judgemental insinuations about the character?
Judging by posts you have made elsewhere you obviously have a knowledge of cars, and I in my turn suggest that you stick to being a petrolhead. Your inability to interact successfully with other human beings is undoubtedly hampered by them not having spark plugs.
You can take your little boy morality and shove it straight up your exhaust pipe. Stick to cars - you know where you are with inaminate objects.
Ah compounded idiocy at its finest. Someone obviously doesn't read too well.
shareYikes this thread got nasty quick. Two quick points:
1. This was still the 60's free love era.
2. This was way before AIDS, all STD's back then were pretty easily treated.
3. A woman can make a sexual overture to a guy she finds attractive without being a tramp or a whore. Deal with it.
Yikes this thread got nasty quick. Two quick points:
1. This was still the 60's free love era.
True, but still, you're being chased by the cops, I doubt free love would be on your mind, I know it wouldn't be on mine. Nobody wants the free love they're giving out in prison.
2. This was way before AIDS, all STD's back then were pretty easily treated.
Also true, but do you really want to chance the discomfort of gonorrhea, crabs etc while evading police? It's bad enough your losing your grip on reality from lack of sleep and uppers.
3. A woman can make a sexual overture to a guy she finds attractive without being a tramp or a whore. Deal with it.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it but go repeat it to some random adults on the streets where you live, I guarentee most, if not all, won't agree. Sorry, its not the free love era anymore.
At that point, Kowalski was pretty much on a spiritual plane. The girl admired him, in fact she showed him how much by showing him the paste-up she had made. Kowalski clearly appreciated her sentiment, but his mind just wasn't on carnality.
shareThere's nothing at all wrong with a woman making the first move, if that's what she desires. That applied in the 'free love' era, but it still holds today. To intimate otherwise is sexism, pure and simple.
"I've been turned down more times than the beds at the Holiday Inn; I still try"
I was old enough to be working professionally as a projectionist in a theatre when this ran in back in 1971, and I knew the times. I got Thunderbird's point well enough, as I get yours.
Do you really think people learned more by experience back then than now ? true, we didn't have youtube but we did have the "Boob Tube" and all it could deliver. Was life really all that different back then in terms of what the girl's motivation was in making a pass at Kowalski ?
I was making $5.50 an hour back when the film was released. I made about a quarter of a million dollars in salary and bonuses last year.
Oh Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot see...
I made about a quarter of a million dollars in salary and bonuses last year.
I actually posted that part with you in mind. Knowing how you stalk me all over the place I knew you would read it and thought you would have fun with that statistic. But as usual, you don't post anything relevant to the message boards you visit. But why don't you witness for Christ here, as you claim you usually do (as the religious nut case you at least pretend to be) and criticize me for not doing ? Your hypocrisy level remains as high as ever. Why not give some of your biblical justifications for rape, as you have on a board that is about creationism and evolution ? That might be relevant to this thread.
So, what did you make last year Woody ? Did you make more than me ? My current salary on its own is several thousands dollars higher that the highest White House staff member salary. It is higher that the average for the recently published top salary job in America. Are you in the top 25 or bottom 25 ? I'll bet it would be interesting to see how far you have risen above burger flipping.
www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/04/white-house-salaries-rele _n_633920.html
www.forbes.com/2007/06/04/jobs-careers-compensation-lead-careers-cx_pm _0604bestjobs_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=undefined
Oh Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot see...
I just sent my income tax return off last week to meet a August 25th deadline. My "Adjusted Gross Income" on this one was only $425,511.
Oh Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot see...
Well, you have some constricted ideas about the freedoms of using ones own body for pleasure (whores and all that) but you do have a point about being concerned about disease.
However your little boy/old wives tale about loose vaginas from lots of sexual activity is silly and misinformed.
Go tell your friends and family that girls can have all the sex they want, and they don't "stretch out"... that's just stupid. They can get torn though... from CHILDBIRTH. Only something the size of a baby can modify the genitals, the rest is hillbilly stupidity.
And bogwart-1 starts another internet fight on IMDB. What a douchebag.
shareIn the UK version, he does get it on with a female hitchiker only hours after spurning the biker chick. But that was only after the hitchiker said some weird stuff to him and they had some kind of instant connection (which I took to be partly because of his messed up state at that point as you note).
shareIt is definitely 2 actresses that look a little alike (the gas station chick is yet another character who resembles the 2 of them) but as you say the breasts are different plus their faces are pretty different if you watch the scences back to back. But the movie makes you think they could be the same person because the biker chick has the scrapbook about Kowalski saving the girl from rape and getting kicked off the force, and tells him "you haven't changed a bit" which strongly suggests she knew him in the past. What are the chances some random chick in the desert would be obsessed with this attempted rape story that happened several years ago and hundreds of miles away?
shareI keep reading these posts and still haven't seen anyone come up with this answer/idea/opinion about the "girls" of VP.
I'm guessing his GF died while he was still a cop. (Haircut) From that moment on, whenever he saw a young lady that reminded him of his GF, or possibly any young lady that reminded him of her, he went into his depression/mourning/guilt mood we see in the movie.
These three blond women were suppose to look like his GF, thus they would all "fit the story". Of course he met other women that didn't remind him of his GF, but these three were in the movie to remind him.
The man didn't really care about life anymore. The love of his life was gone, his life was falling apart. He felt as if even when he did the "right" thing it still turned out bad. When he met a woman that reminded him of her, it just made it worse. This is why he chose to hit the blades of the bulldozers.
This was my take of the movie anyway...
The hitchhiker Kowalski meets in the UK version of the film was supposed to be the Angel of Death and she warns him not to continue his journey.
Aren't we supposed to assume Kowalski was a successful motorcycle and stock car racer as well as a cop who made a number of headlines? So possibly he was reasonably well known to some people?
People should spend more time watching movies and less time bitching about IMDB spoilers.
Wow, this board is really creepy and sorta great.
shareI always thought the girl who almost got raped was the same girl at the gas station years later. She seemed to know who Kowalski was.
shareHere's my two-cents:
Kowalski went to war in Vietnam and came back not knowing what to do with his life, so he tried becoming a policeman. Then, when he interrupted his partner's attempted rape of a young girl, he got blackballed. The cops didn't like that Kowalski wasn't playing by their rules and decided to frame him. Obviously, the event was big enough to attract some media attention -- The police claimed Kowalski was guilty of using drugs, he probably claimed they were corrupt. That's the kind of story that grows legs and gets a lot of attention around the country.
That's where the clippings the nude motorcycle rider had came from.
After he was dishonorably discharged as a law enforcement officer, he turned to stock car racing and motorcycle racing. When both of those careers resulted in near fatal accidents, he decided to choose a safer career as a delivery driver. He could still operate an automobile, but under a lot safer conditions. Kowalski liked the distraction that being on the open road provided him. As long as kept going, he never had to think about how everything in his life had gone wrong.
None of the girls in the movie knew each other. The girls only reminded Kowalksi of each other. The gas station attendant made Kowalski think of the girl who was almost raped. If the gas station attendant appeared to "recognize" Kowalski, I don't think she actually did and was actually only attracted to him which is why she looks at him like that.
Commenting about whether or not he should have had relations with that girl or not....
Well....both of the argumentative guys have valid points.... no need for insults, but this is imdb in 2012, what do you expect....
Yea...she made a pass at him, he declined. Was she a free loving hippie... of course. This is not at all how most women now act so to compare a girl who acts like that now, to a girl who acts like that back then is ridiculous.
Not only was she hot...but she had a thing for that dude and was ready to go. Although yea...that dude was in no shape for sexual activity. Shortly after that, he basically commits suicide. I think that if I knew that was coming...SURE why not have sex with that girl.
Most day to day people act nothing like the people in this flick....I kinda miss the hippies. They were ahead of their time in my opinion...just all chilled about everything. Now everyone is ready to jump down someone's throat because they don't like the words that were typed on some msg board, lol...what was once such a great idea...(Internet) has slowly turned into a bunch of brats and internet warriors. You can usually tell someone's age by how they rate movies or if they ask dumb questions, but not all young people that write on these boards are trolls or idiots...some really respect these old films and grow to like them even over newer movies.
This makes me miss film and crappy sound even though I couldn't wait until everything was Dolby Digital and DTS surround sound....LOL
Makes you appreciate the road from silent films, to uber Dolby Atmos...which I've never heard yet.
http://www.youtube.com/user/alphazoom
http://www.vimeo.com/1986276