I saw this film once before, when it came out. I've recalled it over the years with two "endings". After the fiery collision at the end, I remember a "rewind" and then the scene repeated with the car "vanishing" an instant before the collision.
In my decades of recalling this film fondly, that alternate ending has been an essential element that elevated it to a higher level. Now I've seen it again tonight, and there is only the one ending - I would say the trite one. OK, it's been 30+ years. Somebody tell me, am I confusing it with another movie? Is this other ending my invention?
i just put it on to check and make sure and what you might be talking about is the opening scene.
it's opens to that small town in the morning and the bulldozers moving into place, kowalski comes racing towards town and sees the dozers, he pulls a quick 180. then, headed the other way, sees that 2 patrol cars are coming to close him in between them and the small town, so he hops off the road and drives into the desert for that "final rumination" scene. after that he gets back onto the road and races towards the town, passing a black car. freeze-frame on the 2 cars passing each other, then that crude (but wonderful) fade out of the portion of the frame that has kowalski's car... leaving just the black car. then let the film run and it's just the black car on the highway, headed away from town.
And that black car is the same model Kowalski is seen driving in one of the flashbacks; he just delivered it and is preparing on his trip to deliver the Challenger. When he asks for some "ups."
So when the Challenger disappears during the title sequence, it's like he is crossing himself at another point in time, and his journey is cyclical.
I spotted this fan commercial then a guy did with Vanishing Point and the 2008 Challenger, we saw the car vanishing between the 2 bulldozers at 0:48, it's on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpU1RB-WXgc
no, you are not crazy or inventing or misremembering...
you are remembering correctly, and i wish that they would put the theatrical versions on dvds when they make them... the same thing happened with bladerunner.
this is indeed a great film, and anyone who doubts it should watch any ten minutes of any burt reynolds driving movie as a reality check... while those were fine films and provided a lot of adrenaline, they were not art - which this film aspired to and attained at several moments in its arc. and, while dated, it is still art.
this was a very defining film for me (along with the driver, gone in 60 seconds, grand prix and in a smaller way bobby deerfield) and that ending that you mention was the one potent thing of the whole film that really made it stand out.
i have not seen in the film since 1970, and it is indeed a different film for me, since i see things of import now that i did not catch or understand then. but that point of return to the black & white cars crossing paths pushed this film inot transcendance, and it is a dirty shame that sarafian left it out.
i wrote about sarafian in a longish piece for empire magazine, and this is perhaps his best film - the camera work, the editing, the direction of many nonactors and inexperienced actors (the looped voices tell a lot about what he must have gone through, with poor line readings vying with desert winds to make him crazy).
it is interesting that a guy of his age at that time who came out of tv would turn out this poetic portrait of a chaotic time in america. it isn't my favorite film, but it is way up there on the list - and it still awakens adolescent reactions in me...
let's hope for both our sakes that they make that ending available!
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Agreed!! I remember seeing this film when it first came out and the ending that I saw tonight shocked me since I expected the car to "Vanish" hense the Title 'Vanishing Point'. Well maybe there is an alternative ending on a DVD somewhere the one I saw tonight wasn't the original. The original ending left you in a state of your own imagination which made the title make sense. They should have renamed this version 'Challenger vs Bulldozers', or anything besides 'Vanishing Point'. It makes no sense to begin the movie with the car vanishing then showing it crashing into dozers.
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I doubt it will ever appear again, studios tended to throw away extra footage and preview versions... The guys who saw that ending must have seen preview versions of the film. It was Sarafians idea of the ending: Kowalski should have reached another level and just 'fly away'. Super Soul screamed 'HE MADE IT!'. Zanuck Jr. was against it 'Richard, the guy has to die!'. I'd love both versions because it's among my top 20 films, but the theatrical ending is pretty strong. I wrote an 8-page special on VP for CINEMA RETRO magazine two years ago. Unfortunately that issue is sold out :(.
But that's what he does. He knows he can't escape and opts to kill himself. We may not like it, but it's what he chooses. In keeping with the existential theme, his death is a bid for freedom from a life that hasn't gone all that well for him. The "vanishing point" is where the highway vanishes on the horizon, symbolized by the way the bulldozer blades are positioned, so there is the idea that his journey would continue - just not in this world. I remember when I first saw it as a kid there was some talk about how he didn't see the bulldozers because of the way the sun was shining through them, creating the illusion of the highway vanishing point only. Great theory, but it's obvious in the begining he sees the dozers, tries to escape, realizes he can't, and heads back to them at full speed. I've seen this movie at least a dozen times and analyzed it from every angle. As much as the spiritual conclusions is left up to the viewer, the physical ending is pretty clear.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have been looking everywhere to find the information about the ending you described for Vanishing Point. I just watched the movie and expected the Charger to vanish just before impact. Your message is the only place I have found the ending I remember seeing years ago. My wife and I both remembered the vanishing ending. Thanks for your post. Dan
Glad I saw this thread and now a bit ticked at the version I saw. This sounds like a MUCH better ending and would, of course, justify the title!
It seems like people are remembering things differently though. Were there two endings or just the vanishing one, originally? I like ending that's described by the OP. The crash is shocking, which helps drive the reality home and the rewind vanishing would have left the audience with something more to think about: What is left after such a "hero" is scalped?
I ended up here tonight purely because I've just seen the film on Sky and was curious about the alternative ending that I remember from all those years ago. So I can confirm that there is an ending where the car disappears into the distance, or "Vanishing Point". The first time I saw the film that ending was missing and I left the cinema just wondering what was that all about. Seeing the film for a second time with the car disappearing into the distance was so much better an ending, kind of all made sense, although at my age now, who knows.
I ended up here tonight purely because I've just seen the film on Sky and was curious about the alternative ending that I remember from all those years ago. So I can confirm that there is an ending where the car disappears into the distance, or "Vanishing Point". The first time I saw the film that ending was missing and I left the cinema just wondering what was that all about. Seeing the film for a second time with the car disappearing into the distance was so much better an ending, kind of all made sense, although at my age now, who knows.
Strange thing that I also remember the same thing about the Dodge NOT crashing but disappearing in the distance, very intriguingly. I watched again the ending from an old DVD transfer and it bears the known-to-all version.
The black and white car crossing each other's path do bear the white car edited out while the tape is halted, but I am almost 100% sure it's not the right one.
Is it actually a memory from a different road-movie's ending ? I can't tell for sure right now.
"The black and white car crossing each other's path do bear the white car edited out while the tape is halted, but I am almost 100% sure it's not the right one."
Actually, the above describes the beginning of the movie.
This film went through several release versions. The original US release cut which was censored for nudity and drug use, a UK release( which is probably the closest to a directors cut), a second US release, and an Australian release, a VHS release, a couple of DVD releases and now a Bluray release. Each of these releases were edited differently.
We aren't talking about large differences in running time. The original US release was the shortest theatrical release at 1 hour 34 min 59 sec, the Original directorial edit weighed in at 107 minutes ( it is debatable on whether that version was ever publicly shown ), the official UK release was 99 minutes and I have also heard that another edit in the UK or Europe was 105 but I haven't seen that officially listed. The second US release, in 1973, was 98 minutes 45 seconds with some of the censored nudity and pot smoking scenes re-added, probably a result of the 1972 change in the MPAA ratings system that allowed for the PG and PG-13 ratings instead of jumping straight from G to R.
Hopefully the original 107 minute directors edit of the film will surface on one of the Bluray releases. So far I have only seen the original US and UK versions on DVD and the second US version in the theaters in 1973. A recent Bluray review of Vanishing point listed two versions of the film; a 99 minute US release and a 106 minute UK release. This is the first time I have seen a release mentioned that was 106 minutes. I am hoping that this is the original directorial edit as it will be the first time I have seen this available and looking forward to watching it.
As for the alternate ending, it has been a very long time but I think you may be right. I do remember the bit at the beginning where he races towards the bull dozer then flips around but thats not what I am remembering at the end. Seems like there was a scene where Kowalski races towards the dozers and just before impact the car and driver just disappear. Camera pulls back and all the people just pack up and walk off.
Like I said tho, it was a long time since I saw it in the theater in 1973 and I might be dealing with selective memories. Hopefully one of these Blurays will have a copy that explains the variation in our memories, besides old age. :)
Wow, that's quite good info you got there. I am huge fan of this movie and i never knew that it had so many different versions.
That 107 minute director's cut is what specially interests me. I saw pictures of couple deleted scenes (not including the "Hitchiker" scene from UK version) so i always tried to find any info about original cut of the movie.
I also saw both endings. I saw the ending where they stop him with the bull dozers in the theater and later on TV I saw where it flashes back and he takes off down the road and does not crash.