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Why did Bree sleep with Klute? and why did Peter kill himself?


Bree called him one of her "johns" after they first had sex... i didnt get that line. what was she hoping to accomplish by sleeping with him?

And why did Peter suddenly decide to jump out of a window at the first sight of Klute?? I also didn't understand that. If he had killed 3 people before, and was about kill a 4th victim, surely he could have and would have killed Klute as well and the case would have been over. Yet he oddly decides to kill himself instead?? what??

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What can I say? its the old adage that people shouldn't be looking at message boards before seeing the film itself first. Don't blame me. Blame yourself. At least now, you've learned a valuable lesson not to visit boards before watching the movie. You're welcome.

Now, can anyone actually answer the questions?

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I have to say I agree with sucker to a certain extent - this is a board devoted to a discussion about the film not a general discussion board so it goes without saying there are going to be spoilers littered all over the place.

I think maybe Bree slept with Klute because she didn't want to be on her own. She was being stalked and Klute had heard someone on the roof so she was probably a bit rattled. It's a primal thing - if you want to get into a girl's pants you don't take her to see a romantic comedy you take her to see a horror...As for Cable jumping he wasn't the most rational person - once he realised Klute had set a trap for him maybe his severe paranoia lead him to believe everyone knew and committing suicide was his only option, or he simply panicked when his plan started to unravel. But you are right - if he had killed Klute and Bree he would have got away with it so I think his state of mind must have made him think otherwise...

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"As for Cable jumping he wasn't the most rational person - once he realised Klute had set a trap for him maybe his severe paranoia lead him to believe everyone knew and committing suicide was his only option, or he simply panicked when his plan started to unravel. But you are right - if he had killed Klute and Bree he would have got away with it so I think his state of mind must have made him think otherwise..."

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He wouldn't have gotten away with it. John Klute was working with other people on the case, such as the print analyst, and others. Cable was exposed, and he knew it.

As for Bree, she was attracted to John, and was fighting it all the way. Either she was making a pun at his name, or she was trying to trivialize their sexual encounter, and hide her growing feelings. Or both.

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They had nothing on Cable a good lawyer couldn't have got him off. They had a letter match to Cable's typewriter, but so what? It just proves that Tom didn't type the letter and whoever did most likely used Cable's typewriter. If they had him bang to rights they wouldn't have needed to the "little black book" ruse to entrap him. There was no proof he killed anyone. If he had killed Bree and Klute there would have been no proof of that either.


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Early on in the film, Bree tells her psychiatrist that being a call girl and having sex made her feel good about herself, although it did not bring her any physical pleasure. As the previous poster said, at that point in the film Bree is in a very bad state of mind, so she has sex with Klute in order to feel good about herself and escape the horror, at least temporarilly. The thing is that having sex with Klute makes her feel good both mentally AND physicaly. Receiving physical pleasure from sex is something she is not used to and, as she later tells her phychiatrist, that scares her. So, calling Klute "John" after having sex is a defence mechanism, a way of emotionally detaching herself from the situation.

Now about Peter killing himself. When he confronts Bree, he says something along the lines of "...Does Klute know about me?... Then if Klute knows about me, everone knows about me...". So from that statement it is fairly obvious that Peter believes that the police know he is the killer and that whatever he does he will not get away with it (which is probably true, since Klute deduces who the killer is with the help of Detective Trask). Peter is quite crazy, so although his instinct tells him to kill Bree, when he sees Klute he probably realises that the "game" is over whether he kills Bree (and Klute even) or not, and decides to off himself instead.

Well, at least that's the way I see it...

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The answer is, this was an average film, with an average ending, made by average writers and directors. I was just trying to prove how totally unoriginal and thoughtless movies can be sometimes.

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Good answer, thrash. However, I really don't think she got any pleasure out of that first go 'round. That was just some good old manipulatin' on her part. I think it's later when their relationship evolves more that she begins to get physical pleasure out of it. The idea of Klute just magically being the one able to ring her bell is a little preposterous.

"I never dreamed that any mere physical experience could be so stimulating!" -The African Queen

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Woodme, I'm going to have to disagree about Bree's frigidity in the script, partly because I remember parts that imply intimacy that you possibly don't. In the script, she argues with her shrink (a guy) that she IS DEFINITELY TOTALLY SOOO NOT IN LOVE WITH HIM, but it's pretty obvious that this isn't the case. Since this is voiced before the fight with Frank, it can be accepted as fact and so in the final scene when he scoops her up to head to Cabbageville,her explaining her lack of feelings for him is just trying to shut herself out again. They live happily ever after, blah blah blah.

However, with that being said, I've come to be of the opinion that you really cannot interpret the script's message as the movie, I've read and seen both and if the script were filmed verbatim Klute would be a very different movie. I can argue the differences between the two all day, but in the end you have to choose one to interpret. THEREFORE, you cannot say she feels frigid toward him in the film. The quote "I enjoy making love with him" kinda trumps it:)

"I never dreamed that any mere physical experience could be so stimulating!" -The African Queen

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Again, I disagree (just to clarify, I'm not doing this just to be rude, I love, love, love this movie). The biggest departure from the script in the film is Bree's perception of Klute. In the script, it's love (and denial of it) and love only. Issues of her vulnerability with Klute are only mentioned in passing. The movie delves into those matters and also the question of whether Bree would be able to cope with stability. That was all Fonda, hence the Oscar.

So again, I urge you to choose either script or film to interpret when deciding what to take from the story.

"I never dreamed that any mere physical experience could be so stimulating!" -The African Queen

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However, I really don't think she got any pleasure out of that first go 'round. That was just some good old manipulatin' on her part.
Agreed. She made a point of rubbing it in afterward with that comment about Klute losing his virtue, just like everyone else...

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Here is how I see it: Bree first slept with Klute to have power over him. She ACTED like she was afraid and needed him (which may have not been completely acting); remember that the only way she felt power over her life was manipulating men. That is also the reason she stabs him with the scissors.. while she didn't have complete love and attachment to Roy Schieder (the pimp), she still felt the need to attack Klute since Klute was attacking her meal ticket, as well as just the simple fact that, at that moment in time, Klute became an aggressive male, which led to Bree responding almost instinctively. I suspect Bree was maybe not sexually abused as a child, but definitely physically abused.

As far as "the killer" Peter falling backwards out the window, the impression I got was that Peter, when he saw Klute aiming the gun, realized he wouldn't be able to kill Bree (as he even said as much that he knew he was screwed, so Bree was a consolation prize before the inevitable would occur). Thus, he used her body as leverage to push from, so he could have one last moment of control over what little of his life was left. Remember that the entire theme of the movie was having control over one's life - Bree found power in manipulation of men; Klute found power in discovery of information; Peter found power in a more direct form; even the Pimp and the Psychiatrist found power in having people who came to them "to be sheltered under their wing".

This is also the reason why Bree didn't marry or settle down with Klute - to do so would mean acquiescing to her love for Klute, which is also the reason why she tells her psych why she hates that part that wants to push Klute away and destroy their relationship. She's in a Catch 22 - if she throws away the one man who truly accepts her, she realizes she will be alone for the rest of her life (which she truly fears. Look at Bree's face when the junkie wipes the brow of her fellow junkie boyfriend... the fact that even the junkie can find love and she CAN'T).. but if she ACCEPTS Klute, it would automatically mean being diminished in her own eyes (probably due to what happened to her in her childhood).

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She was extremely attracted to him and afterwards discovered that she was in love with him. It scared her because she was never in love before and couldn't handle the vulnerability of it. She wanted Klute and was terrified that she would lose him or he would reject her.

So she insulted him to get a bit of distance.

Although the film is open ended, I like to think she settled down with Klute and won a bit of happiness in life.

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