Tzeitel & Motel,
Hodel & Perchik,
Hava & Fyedka,
Golde & Tevye,
Or perhaps even:
Fruma Sarah & Lazar Wolf?
Tevye's 2 youngest daughters with those 2 Yeshiva boys, Yente tried to set them up with.
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Tevye and Golde. It was so rewarding to see them interact. I wouldn't necessarily think of them as a love story, just as a relationship that's been going for a long time. The way they're so used to each other and how they eventually re-evaluate their marriage through song. Definitely some of the best moments of the film revolved around them (ex. Tevye dreaming the sign and fooling Golde. The whole scene is perfectly done and the first & last scenes in that segment never fail to make me laugh)
If we're just going by the kids only, I'd say Tseitel and Motel. They had more time to their relationship, unlike Fyedka and Chava's relationship, which meant that it was filled with more touching moments. And the actors were especially talented, and made classic moments out of scenes like Motel finally confronting Tevye about his love for Tzeitel.
It was also very rewarding to see them develop a happy marriage and family. Unlike Perchik and Hodel, whose future remains far too doubtful for me to feel totally happy about it. But that's not to say that they weren't lesser characters. We're just going by the love story itself.
You know, I think I agree with you about Tevye & Golde. One of the best songs in the movie was when they were singing about their love for one another & that was very touching. :-)
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Hava and fyedka because I love to read books, and if a guy as cute as him talked to me about books, well yeah...I'd fall for him. But all the romances are sweet in their own way.
shareHodel and Perchik. Always have been the revolutionary sort, myself. :)
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I played Fyedka, many years ago, on stage, so I'm probably biased. I always wished I had a singing role, though, like Motel.
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Yes, I think he was the only one of the daughers' husbands to have one.
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For the daughters... I'd have to go with Tzeitel and Motel. I enjoy all their love stories for different reasons, but I think theirs is especially endearing--though, they do have the most screen time, so they have that going to their advantage. But I also love the potential the youngest two had when Yente was already trying to set them up with; the looks on the kids' faces are priceless XD
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In those days it was common to get married while still young. Besides, who even knows if they did marry when they all older or they lost contact with the boys' family, after they were all evicted from Anatekva.
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Hodel & Perchik,
shareHodel and Perchik's relationship touched me the most. It was passionate and I felt it was doomed to end in tragedy. If their story were to continue I feel Perchick would die in the camp, having never married or even again seen Hodel.
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"If their story were to continue I feel Perchick would die in the camp, having never married again seen Hodel."
Actually, I got the impression that Perchick & Hodel did reunite & get married, while he was in prison.
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I don't know what love story was my favorite. But Hodel and Perchik were probably the most attractive couple.
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Perchik was a little too selfish.
Golde was a little too cold.
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The reason Perchik wouldn't stay in Anatevka was precisely because of his plans to fight for human rights in Kiev. He probably didn't expect that he would only end up being arrested in the long run, only victory for the people.
BOTH Golde & Tevye fought with each other. As Golde pointed out Do You Love Me? she fought with him & starved with him for 25 years. Probably not even in that order. When you face that kind of difficulties, you would probably be at one another's necks. Besides, after she admitted her love for him, he had to admit likewise. They met on the very day that got married. So it was no wonder they had to evaluate their marriage to one another, after 25 years.
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Have you read the Harry Potter books or seen the movies? If so, you would know that all throughout the series, Harry's 2 best friends, Ron & Hermione fought all throughout the series, but, towards the end, it turns out they were in love with one another all along.
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I think with Perchik, he had trouble expressing his emotions, in particular, love. He was a student in economics & politics, & pretty much could only think along those lines. The reason he didn't want to give up his cause, was because he wanted to make life better for all peoples, including Hodel's people. I think most people today, disagree with communism, especially if one happens to believe in God, & has seen how communist countries have treated religions, & those who choose to remain faithful to religion. Perchik struck me as being naive as to what freedoms would be lost under a communist regime. He & others like him may have been aware of Marx's "religion is the utopia of the masses," but, may have not actually realized that Communist regimes would include banning of religious faiths.
Did your grandparents meet only on their wedding day? Or did they get to know one another prior to getting married? The way I see Fiddler on the Roof (& I am speaking specifically of the film, not the original story by Sholem Aleichem, as I know that both the stage & film took some liberties), is that it is like a Jewish version of Pride & Prejudice. In both stories, the parents fight, but, underneath, they love each other; both stories centre around families with 5 daughters whom they want to marry off; both face obstacles in the way of getting them married off; and by the end, at least 3 of the 5 daughters are married.
Of course, there are some differences too, but, those are the similarities.
Ron & Hermione fought all throughout the series, & even after admitting their love for one another. There are some HP fans who believed they wouldn't have made a good couple(I'm not one of them, but, I know this, because I post on the DH Pt. 2 message forum).
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How did your grandparents meet? Were they set up by a matchmaker? Or did they fall for each other on their own?
Yes, I realize there's some differences with Fiddler on the Roof and with Pride & Prejudice . The parents not loving one another are only just one of them (though I got the impression from the BBC miniseries starring Colin Firth that they loved each other in the end). Another difference is the Bennet family was far more well off than Tevye's family. However, in both stories, there were 5 daughters; the parents were both hoping to have sons; they wanted to find good husbands for their daughters. There was also controversy in the choices for husbands by the daughters themselves ( Lydia & Wickham; Chava & Fyedka).
I never clued in, back when I first read the HP series that Ron & Hermione fell in love with each other. I thought, that Hermione would have ended up with Harry by the end of the series (because Hermione was the main female of the series). It wasn't until GOF that I thought it would be cooler if they all married others than going the traditional way of the main male marrying the main female.
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Wow, that's very romantic.
But, back to BBC's P&P production: throughout the miniseries they emphasized the parents' toleration of one another(or rather, the father tolerating the mother; in some cases, it seemed as though the mother did love the father, & wasn't even aware that he only tolerated her), however, in the very last scene, after Lizzie & Mr. Darcy married, & Jane married Mr. Bingley, Mrs Bennet happily says to Mr. Bennet, "It looks like God has blessed us, with 3 daughters married"(I'm paraphrasing, as I cannot remember the actual words), & Mr. Bennet said, "Yes, Mrs. Bennet it looks like he has," & he seems equally happy.
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I don't think Mrs. Bennet was necessarily aware that her husband of her husband's negativity towards her. The case in point is Mr. Collins, whom as you noted, Lizzie(& all the other sisters, with notable exception of Mary), found to be ridiculous. Mr. Collins came to stay with the Bennets in the hope of picking one of the girls to be his wife. Since Jane was the oldest, he was going to pick her, until Mrs. Bennet told him that it looks like she was going to become engaged. So, Mr. Collins chose Lizzie instead, since she was the second oldest, & Mrs. Bennet gave her approval. She totally expected Lizzie to accept Mr. Collins' marriage proposal, & when Lizzie rejected him, she became angry, & expected that Mr. Bennet would have been the same. Instead, he gave Lizzie a way out, & she became upset with him for doing so.
Referring back to Lydia & Wickham: It sounds like they had a miserable marriage; he being a constant gambler & all, & not in love with her. He probably had a lot of affairs, & she probably did too.
But, this brings us back FOTR: By the end of the series, 3 of the 5 daughters were married. Although they didn't respect Motl in the beginning, they came to love him as their son, & were happy that Tzeitel was happy with him; Perchik, they were still relatively happy for a son-in-law, even though it meant for Hodel moving thousands of miles away(who knows if they ever saw her again, after they had to move to the USA); Fyedka was the one they were disappointed with, because he was a Christian. Tevye disowned Chava, but, Golde was reluctant to do so. This is why I don't see her as being cold, as you describe, because she was very upset at Tevye ordering that her to be declared dead(which apparently is a very common tradition among ultra orthodox Jews, when a family member marries outside the faith).
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She expected Mr. Bennet to try to persuade Lizzie to accept Mr. Collins because Mr. Bennet had always acquiesced to her wishes (to keep the peace).
I think he really did have some genuine regard for Lizzie, however, so that is at least to his credit.
Maybe I am basing my interpretation of her character all on the song Do You Love Me?. I just don't think someone who is loved by another person who is warm would need to ask the question.
It broke her heart when Chava was disowned, just as it broke Tevye's.
It's a beautiful moment at the end of the movie when they come to a begrudging (on Tevye's part) reconciliation.
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I seem to remember he really wanted to marry Lizzie, but when he found out she had no money, he decided to pursue Mary King.
I think the marriage broke both their hearts. I can not condemn Tevye as strongly, because he was a man of faith and acted accordingly.
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Many Christians are upset when their children marry an unbeliever or someone of another faith, but Christians (in my experience) do not disown their children because of such a marriage.
I preferred Chava and Fyedka after seeing the play, but unfortunately they didn't get a lot of screentime in the movie version. I suppose I'd say Tevye and Golde, if only because their song is such a touching moment.