did they kill rats in this movie? - The Andromeda Strain (1971) Discussion

[–] klandersen 14 years ago

I just watched the DVD (rented it) and they have a making of featurette that mentions how they made the monkey "die" they mention for the monkey anyway that they subjected it to a room filled with carbon dioxide filmed the scene, then cut filming and revived the monkey with oxygen. They didn't mention the rats, but I'm guessing they did the same sort of thing because there were some members of the ASPCA on set.

Hmmm let me think...

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[–] le_chiffre-1 14 years ago

Did they actually kill lab rats in this movie??

I hope so, and I hope they made them suffer. I hate rats.

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[–] savagesteve13 13 years ago

They looked like they were asphyxiated. Not sure you can revive a rat after that, but those little buggers are survivors.

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[–] Kompressor_Fan 13 years ago

The ASPCA did not monitor movies back then the way they do now. Hollywood killed horses, donkeys and mules in westerns all the time. I doubt any heroic efforts were made to rescue rats.

"He'd kill us if he got the chance."
--The Conversation

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[–] viewpertuis 12 years ago

I would have filmed a rat going to sleep and then run it backwards.

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[–] censorshipsucks06 12 years ago

Why do people give two $hits about lab rats anyway???

IMO - we go overboard in protecting animals.

Take a walk through your butcher shop and see all the dead animals we will eat.

So a lab rat died. So what? BOO HOO HOO.

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[–] neonaoki1 9 years ago

4 years late, but here:

The logical disconnect isn't "we kill some animals, so let's kill all of them". It's "we care about the well-being of some animals, so we should care about the well-being of all animals".

You could simply go vegan and you wouldn't be seeing "all the dead animals [you] will eat". You would be seeing all the dead animals you didn't contribute to the suffering and death of.

That they asphyxiated a monkey and a rat just for the effect in the film is animal cruelty. If they had done the same to a cat or dog you wouldn't be saying "who gives a $hit anyway?".

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[–] rogueforte 9 years ago

Gandhi summed it up pretty well:

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

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[–] censorshipsucks06 9 years ago

Gandhi summed it up pretty well:

"The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

Quoting a guy who's culture deifies cows doesn't scoring many points on this topic.

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[–] censorshipsucks06 9 years ago

That they asphyxiated a monkey and a rat just for the effect in the film is animal cruelty. If they had done the same to a cat or dog you wouldn't be saying "who gives a $hit anyway?".

So you are all broken up over a rat dying? You do realize that rats NEED to be exterminated. We can't just let them roam free. Comparing a rat to a cat or dog is ABSURD.

The problem with going Vegan is that in 50 or so years, I'll have to listen to idiots tell me that eating plants is somehow evil too. That may be an exaggeration, but I hope it drives the point home. Because anyone that's concerned with the welfare of rats has some mental issues.

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[–] Stratego (30535) a year ago

Kill yourself and we'll all be happy.

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[–] Stratego (30535) a year ago

Nobody will cry when you die.🖕

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[–] michael-abatemarco 9 years ago

Interesting. I thought about this. When I saw the the monkey convulsing I assumed they drugged it and then they simply filmed it losing consciousness then sped up the film to achieve the spasm effects. I would have taken an approach like that before resorting even to oxygen deprivation which, even if the monkey was instantly revived on set, seems risky.

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