Is it just me or has anyone else felt as though they've just wasted hours of their lives on this terribly bad movie.I always watch a movie to the end but this one was so painful that I could hardly stay awake. It is bland, dull and just totally uninteresting. I have seen films that are about red indians and the fighting that went on but this one was terrible definitely Hoffman's worst movie!
It is just you. This movie is a classic. Remember, it was made in 1970; perhaps you are simply more interested in big explosions, cgi, and special effects. This is absolutely one of Hoffman's best. It's incredible. And you spelled 'definitely' wrong, and 'hours.'
Yeah. I don't like movies that drag on and take forever to get to a point (Citizen Kane and the Godfather haven't worked out for me thus far), but I do however like movies that have a story. Engaging films that keep you watching, that make you laugh and cry and think. Toy Story 3 really worked for me in this area, as did Stand By Me, albeit in a more understated way. I also like films such as Kramer vs. Kramer, Rain Man, The King's Speech, My Cousin Vinny, and the other Toy Story movies.
Yeah. Everything seems to be black and white for these people. Either you like what they like, or you're obviously only into some sort of extreme, whatever is the worst they can think of. If you bash a well-received horror movie, they talk about how "this movie is genuinely scary", and tell you to "go watch torture p0rn then; shock value is all you care about" or, you know, go watch some Little Miss Sunshine because it was just TOO scary for you. Can't dislike something for any other reasons.
All this does is remind me of this preadolescent (!!!) girl who, upon me saying I don't like boy bands, condescendingly asked me "What do you like, then? Winnie The Pooh music?" (I was into Iron Maiden and Nightwish at the time. Quite a long way from Winnie The Pooh music.) To see this very same attitude and mentality in people so much older is nothing less than scary.
--- Give me ten good men and some climbing spikes; I'll impregnate the bitch.
"All this does is remind me of this preadolescent (!!!) girl who, upon me saying I don't like boy bands, condescendingly asked me "What do you like, then? Winnie The Pooh music?"" That's fvcking scary.
"To see this very same attitude and mentality in people so much older is nothing less than scary." I'm 15, and you should see an exchange between me and a 75-year-old woman on the Julia Roberts board. She calls herself Dame Alys.
I dared to go back to that thread and check it out. Well, thanks for it; I would have liked someone else to step in so it wouldn't just be a disconcerted exchange between two people. Except for the fact that that's exactly what's going on right now, between us.
To be fair, however, the original poster didn't just say he/she didn't like the movie, he/she said it is a bad movie. There's a difference that is significant, and I think that is what some of the people who disagree are really reacting to.
Tell you what...you be beyond irritated at the dismissiveness of others to the OP and I'll stifle the urge to roll up a newspaper and strike them over the nose while telling them "No!" for being inane. Didn't like this movie? Fine. No Problem. But calling it the "Worst Movie Ever" kind invites responses that call their intelligence into question. Even if what they really meant to say was this was only Dustin Hoffman's worst movie, that would mean that they're putting Ishtar and the Focker abominations ahead of this. If such is the case then the other comments are justified.
Trust me, when I say, "It's just you!" Since you don't appreciate a great western, such as this, why don't you spend more of your precious time brushing up on your spelling!
This is me just checking back on this and I think that your reply was not only insulting but just pathetic. This is a forum where people can express their views on a film and trying to insult my spelling which I can see no problems with is just sad, just because I didn't like this movie doesn't mean you have to be a total a$$ about it, really just grow up.
No offence intended. This movie is a classic. You may not like it, which is fine, but that doesnt reduce the quality of it. A good reviewer/critic knows how to distinguish between movies he doesnt like personally, and movies which as just bad.
Me, I like many bad movies. And hate many good movies. But I dont judge either according to my personal taste.
Yep, it's just you. I've shown this movie several times to college students in American History classes and the overwhelming number of them love it. I can show it either as an example of a revisionist western and/or as an intelligent allegory for the time during which it was made: 1970, while America was still at war in Vietnam (which, in the film, the Indian west represents) and our country was beset with social and political turmoil. In that sense the *beep* massacre evokes the recent, notorious slaughter of innocents by U.S. Marines at My Lai (the naked Indian girl being gunned down in the snow is startingly similar to a famous photo of the time of a little Vietnamese girl , whose skin was burned and falling off from a napalm attack, running in terror, naked, down a dirt road) and Custer's suicidal charge at the Little Bighorn reflects the impulsive rashness of our escalation in Vietnam. And in a sense Jack Crabbe stands in for the disaffected, alienated and confused youth of the 60's generation, who wanted to both improve and abandon the dominant culture. The Reverend Pendrake and his wife represent the hypocrisy of organized religion and the longing for liberation, Jack's snake-oil salesman partner embodies the corruption of capitalism and its exploitative, greedy motives, and Custer's lunatic soliloquy at Little Bighorn echoes the ravings of right-wing war hawks. And of course Chief Old Lodge Skins is the only one of the main characters in the movie who remains principled and uncorrupted throughout. His clarity of vision and purpose, and his apocalyptic ruminations on what the ultimate conquest of the west by whites -- accomplished via a holocaust of the "human beings" -- will mean for the future are well worth heeding.
So I'd recommend watching it again, this time with a more open mind. It might broaden your horizons, and your outlook, a bit.
Here we go again with the Vietnam angle. It seems like every movie made in the early seventies, late sixties had to do with Vietnam. Let it go already, sheesh!But anyway, I love the movie and bought the DVD and would highly recommend it to anybody.
I saw this film many years ago and I thoroughly enjoyed it but I stumbled across the book, 'Little Big Man' by Thomas Berger in my local library just recently. It was an absolute joy to read and some of the descriptive narrative of these Indian people and their ways was remarkably vivid and so endearing to my mind. So much so that I ordered the Dvd !! It may not be to everyone's taste I'll grant you but that's the strange thing about films. We go through different phases in our lives and the older we get the less of the flash bang nonsense we want. We leave that to the present day teenies etc....
Like s-duddy1, I also read the book and it was a joy to read. Too bad the movie didn't follow the book more, but if it had then it would have been a four hour movie! There are even some Huckleberry Finn elements in the book, and Custer isn't the nutjob looney that he is in the film. I'll give the book a 9.5 out of 10 and the movie a 8.5 out of 10. Thomas Berger also wrote an excellant follow-up book about 8 years ago, The Return of Little Big Man.
. . . an intelligent allegory for the time during which it was made . . .
But do such interpretations, while interesting for what they're worth, amount to something being a great film?
I don't think so.
What makes something a good film is if the story is told well, it's acted well, it has good cinematography, editing, etc. NOT whether you think it's about things that are worth being about. A film about something that you think is the most important possible subject could completely suck if it's not well made.
Think of writing. Let's imagine that you thought that the existence of God was a really important subject, maybe the most important one (I do not think that, by the way, but I'm just imagining someone who does--we need an example). Imagine if someone wrote an essay on that subject as follows:
"Proof me can ain't not the existents god, u c? Itz no lulz . . ." etc.
Well, the essay would suck, regardless of what it's supposed to be about, because whoever wrote it apparently can't write (at least not in English).
Film is the same. We can't grade it simply on what it's about, how important we think that is, and whether the film can be seen as forwarding views about that subject that we happen to agree with.
While one might see important subject matter as necessary for a great film, too often people write "defenses" of films such as yours, where you're just noting an interpretation referencing that important subject matter (and often points of view that the author agrees with), while not talking about why the way this particular film unfolds while presenting that subject matter, including the "technical" aspects, is worthwhile.
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I watched 'Little Big Man' as a teenager when it came out on TV in the 70's, and I enjoyed immensely. Maybe it's because I like Dustin Hoffman a lot. I thought the story was very interesting and the performances well done. It's like Benjamin Button in recent times, either you like it, or you don't. I find that watching something done 30 or 40 years ago depending on what it is sometimes make a difference in how a film is enjoyed. Some films fare well, others don't.
+ kirbyarcher This film aficionado has held this picture in very high esteem ever since seeing it on it's initial release in the theatres. However, I've never broken it down in my mind as Penn's allegory to the war in Vietnam. Obviously, you have studied this film along with your students and this viewer is impressed with the observations you have presented. Good work!
Judging from the responses I can breathe easy when I say; IT IS JUST YOU. The special effects reflect the time the move was made 1969 - 1970 but the story so strong and the dialogue so rich and the pathos and humor so poignant that the deficiency in blood stain realism would be a very minor issue. Great film. Constantly on my top five of favorite movies of all time.
sometimes i just get so tired of coming to imdb and finding all the same "worst movie ever", "is it just me", and "she looks just like" threads. boring boring boring.
sorry for the mini-rant.
anyway, little big man is a sprawling, goofy, and ultimately really likable movie and i'm always a little surprised by how much i like it. it's not without it's flaws, but it has way more charms. i give it an 8/10.