Non-linear Storytelling


I think The Conformist is a fantastic film but I could not see any reason for the script (at least in the first half of the film) telling the story in a non-linear way.
I tend to look at non-linear storytelling in modern films (like 21 Grams) as a trendy technique the screenwriters use to cover up that their stories aren't all that interesting or unique. I'd like to think that Bertolucci had more more of a purpose in writing his script that way, but I'm not sure what that could be.

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Do you mean the manner in which Marcello recalls his abuse at the hands of the chauffeur? I didn't see how it could have been told in any other way. The information seems to come out at the moment which is most pertinent.

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Not so much the chauffer sexual abuse scene. It seemed an appropriate place for such a flashback.
The first half of the film (or so) shows events out of order.
For example, the man who drives the adult Marcello around and speaks to him is Gastone Moschin's character Manganiello. Yet later on they are shown meeting for the first time outside of Marcello's mother's residence.
Or take Marcello's fiance' and later wife Giulia. They obviously have a very sexual relationship at the beginning of the film. Yet later on in the train scene she confesses to him that she is not a virgin like he thought. They then make love for the first time.

The film presents scenes in not the order that they happened. Rather than going from A to B to C, the film sometimes goes from C to A to B.
This is what I mean by The Conformist not telling the story in a linear fashion.

By the second half of the film, with the meeting of the Professor and his wife, I would say that the story starts going fairly linearly.

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According to BB in one of the interview extras on the Paramount DVD the movie was originally conceived and shot more sequentially, but the editor suggested the extensive use of flashback.

I think the non-linear works fine. The film starts at the time of the protagonist's greatest test- Will he participate in, or at least witness, a horrible crime and reject any "human weakness" to pursue his obsession with conformity? Then the film shows the various steps in his life that led to that point.

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People usually tell stories in a non-linear fashion. More true to life, to me, at least.
And how the story is told will dictate what can be told and valued.

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i like it better. how people tell a story naturally.



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I agree with the original post and found the editing rather jarring- it also felt as though the one truly "motivated" flashback, the one with Marcello and the chauffeur, lost a good deal of its power in the greater scheme of the film since we were so used to going back and forth anyway.

But I THINK I know why it is more jarring than a lot of other non-linear films: the cinematography, and the visual style, were not planned with the time-shift in mind. So essentially we are watching a film that was shot in sequence, and then jumbled up in editing later.

If you watch most non-linear films, or films that follow different characters (e.g. Altman or Anderson), they adopt a distinctive visual style for each chapter of the narrative. For example, think of the "past tense" scenes in Reservoir Dogs: it's sunny, the costumes are brighter, the camera is more relaxed. Then think of the warehouse stuff: there's hardly any color, it takes place in one location, the costumes are indicative of the shift.

Same thing with Traffic, or Amores Perros, or most of these films.

The other thing that might add to the problem is Trintignant's character, who is so internally conflicted and rarely displays his emotions, until the very end. So you don't really have a point of reference: it's not like you start off with William Holden floating in the pool and say "oh of course, he's dead, now we go back to the beginning of his demise". We essentially start off with a morally weak character and end up with one who knows why he is morally weak.

Just my opinion, but hopefully I make a bit of sense! :)

p.s. for all the young filmmakers in here: it's absolutely INSANE that Bertolucci made this at 28. It makes me feel old at 25.

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I don't have a problem with the non-linear story telling. Yes, it's jarring, but it would seem that that's intentional. The character himself is jarred by what's happening to him and the non-linear storytelling lets us ask if we're seeing this as a memory of Marcello's. We may not be, but I think it's a good possible reason.

Another is very simply the stylistic nature and climate of the 70s. This is not the only film to utilize non-linear editing (a weak example being Easy Rider, which predating this film, used very similar editing technique: flash back for a bit, flash forward, then back to the scene, etc.)

Again, the jarring effect, to me, seems to reflect this time of incredible change in the world (not so much Italy as America I suppose) but it also reflects the time period in which the film takes place. A time of fear, distrust, and confusion.

And a complete aside: I think the girl in the beginning that Marcello had sex with if not his wife, is a random affair. At least, that was my impression after only 1 viewing. But if I'm not mistaken, he gets the phone call at that time calling him to the minister. Also, his wife could have meant that he thought her a virgin when they met, it's not really made clear.

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Another is very simply the stylistic nature and climate of the 70s. This is not the only film to utilize non-linear editing (a weak example being Easy Rider, which predating this film, used very similar editing technique: flash back for a bit, flash forward, then back to the scene, etc.)

Stronger examples include Alain Resnais' work especially Hiroshima, Mon Amour, Last Year at Marienbad and Muriel. Before Resnais, you had Orson Welles. Actually the 60's(Il Conformista is a late 60's film) was full of experimentation of narrative linearity. And not just in non-chronological narrative but in telling stories without plots. There is story in Il Conformista but there is no plot.

I don't have a problem with the non-linear story telling. Yes, it's jarring, but it would seem that that's intentional. The character himself is jarred by what's happening to him and the non-linear storytelling lets us ask if we're seeing this as a memory of Marcello's. We may not be, but I think it's a good possible reason.

You would rather have black-and-white scenes signifying the past and colour for the present?

The visual style of Il Conformista deliberately intends to confuse past and present, rendering it as a state of mind as well as a real thing in and of itself. The reason is however not because Marcello is jarred. The fact is he is detached from the thing. A person who is jarred would or should be more capable of seperating of timelines more clearly. But he can't. That's why visually there is no real difference between the timeperiods. But there is difference in places. Paris has paler, more wintry and poetic colours. Rome is shown with menace and Ventimiglia, save for the astonishing train ride scenes is shown with post-card acedemicism hence the use of that painting of a landscape and then a cut to the real landscape in a manner that makes the real look as still as the painting.

And a complete aside: I think the girl in the beginning that Marcello had sex with if not his wife, is a random affair. At least, that was my impression after only 1 viewing. But if I'm not mistaken, he gets the phone call at that time calling him to the minister.

No it's his wife. Watch it again. You'll notice it's his hotel room from the furniture of the bed. The phone call is from Maganiello who brings him along for the assassination.

What you might confuse it with is Marcello's visit to the office where he becomes part of the secret police.

Also, his wife could have meant that he thought her a virgin when they met, it's not really made clear.

That is what she indeed meant. They make love for the first time in the train ride out of Ventimiglia. And the second time on the night before the assassination. Probably the night which concieved their child.




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But I THINK I know why it is more jarring than a lot of other non-linear films: the cinematography, and the visual style, were not planned with the time-shift in mind. So essentially we are watching a film that was shot in sequence, and then jumbled up in editing later.

That is pretty ridiculous. How a film was shot has very little do with how it would be edited in later especially for a director like Bernardo Bertolucci who is known to flout conventional rules of film grammar even before Il Conformista, in films like Prima della Rivoluzione, Partner and La Strategia del Ragno.

Many films in classic hollywood of the 40's were shot out of sequence and they had a straightforward narrative. In fact most films are shot out-of-sequence. Shooting in sequence is highly time consuming.

Then think of the warehouse stuff: there's hardly any color, it takes place in one location, the costumes are indicative of the shift.

But it takes place in one location for very obvious plot reasons. And even then the palette is hardly desaturated. In any case every film with a non-linear narrative isn't the same. In Reservoir Dogs, the flashbacks don't serve any othe purpose than to establish select characters.

With Il Conformista, the colours are indicative of place and mood. The visual style changes with each new location Marcello goes. Much of the colour seeps in when he leaves Rome. Rome is shown either in decay or in sparse, gray office interiors.

We essentially start off with a morally weak character and end up with one who knows why he is morally weak.

In other words, a character that implicates the audience instead of a character the audience passively identifies with. The main character as the title indicates is a "conformist", moral strength arises from not conforming.

p.s. for all the young filmmakers in here: it's absolutely INSANE that Bertolucci made this at 28. It makes me feel old at 25.

Orson Welles was 25 when he first made Citizen Kane.

But Bertolucci is impressive in that before that he had already made films like Prima della Rivoluzione, Partner, La Strategia del Ragno and his first feature, La Commare Secca is damn good as well. Il Conformista brought worldwide attention on this great talent. And then he went on to Last Tango in Paris.



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I tend to look at non-linear storytelling in modern films (like 21 Grams) as a trendy technique the screenwriters use to cover up that their stories aren't all that interesting or unique.

Just because you see it used badly or lamely is no reason to suspect at once that The Conformist uses it for pseudo-artistic purposes.



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Non-linear storytelling is used all the time in fantastic films. It's far from a trendy technique used to cover up story flaws. I'll agree it can be used that way (Memento, etc.), but generally it's a successful way to tell a story.

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I've seen the film for the first time just last afternoon. What I thought made the nonlinear plotline effective was how the flashbacks were presented as memories Marcello has while being driven to the assassination spot. This frame sequence turns the majority of the film into an intense moment of introspection for a man who is helplessly being led towards tragedy. One of the major themes is the loss of free will - how Marcello becomes a drone for an ill-fated government which he cannot refuse to obey.

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Non-linear narrative is 'never' a gimmick. It is one of those ways any filmmaker may deem fit for his film. There are many ways even a non-linear narrative can be designed. There is a difference between the non-linear narrative of each of these films - Last Year at Marienbad, Exotica, 21 Grams, Citizen Kane, Memento, The Fountain, Mulholland Drive, Rashomon, Hour of the Wolf, Talk to Her, Deconstructing Harry and so on and on. Each of them does it to satisfy its ambitions within its own realm. It's not like non-linear is by itself a category, an achievement - designing a narrative is for maximising the impact of a given story. In fact, I would like it if every story is presented with a non-linear narrative, a linear narrative that says it as it happened in sequence hardly gives the audience much to figure out other than trivialities, does it?

21 Grams definitely was not using a non-linear narrative to be trendy. Being interested to a story is subjective. 21 Grams was dealing with perspectives. Since the same action had impacted three different set of people, it is effective in letting us see the action and its impact from each of their perspectives, which is exactly why it was presented as it was.

The Conformist is effective because he recollects various parts of his life during his drive for the assassination.

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I was very much bothered by the non-linear editing coupled with such dense storytelling. I felt I needed to process the edit and the dialogue at the same time. Put the fact that most of the dialogue is ADR and a couple times I wound up squirming in my seat wondering if I should walk out of the theater (saw a restoration screening).

I was ultimately frustrated with what I felt was a film with fantastic character, gorgeous cinematography and art direction and an engaging climax.

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I was similarly disoriented at the first screening, but the narrative will obviously be clear on subsequent viewings so hopefully you might give it another shot down the road. As has already been mentioned, most of the film is essentially a series of flashbacks, perhaps suggesting Marcello's introspection. This structure adds more tension throughout the film than simple linear storytelling would, as you understand that Marcello is on his way to the hit.

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