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What was the name of the NBC Hour with Mcloud & McMillan & Wife?
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You're mixing 2 different "wheel shows".
McCloud premiered in 1970 as part of the 60-minute "4 in 1" wheel show, airing 3 2-hour films split into 6 1-hour parts (oddly enough, not in order) from Sept. 16, 1970 to Oct. 21, 1970. The other shows in the 4 in 1 line-up were Night Gallery, The Psychiatrist and San Francisco International (SFX, an attempt to clone the recent hit film Airport into a series) - both the latter 2 were not renewed. Each of the 4 series were aired as a set, Starting with McCloud, followed by SFX, Night Gallery and finishing with The Psychiatrist.
While Night Gallery was spun-off into it's own 60-minute series (cut to 30-mins in it's final season), McCloud was retained as part of the new "wheel show" series for the 1971-1972 season. The 90-minute "NBC Mystery Movie" premiered in the fall of 1971 on Wed. nights from 8:30 to 10:00PM EST with McCloud, McMillan and Wife and Columbo. These shows rotated week-to-week, with different title card intros indicating which show was to air that night, along with a different voice-over.
So you see, there was no NBC Hour with McCloud and McMillan and Wife.
I don't think he was saying all of those characters were on the same show, just asking what umbrella they both fell under. Also, while the NBC Mystery Movie premiered on Wednesday, the famous trio of shows there were moved to Sunday the following year, where they enjoyed their greatest success through most of the decade. The Wednesday Mystery Movie limped along with a succession of duds before being cancelled in 74.
shareBit OT Didn't anyone here see this was a TV show more or less based on the film
Coogan's Bluff?
From the film's page:
Was the inspiration for the TV series McCloud starring Dennis Weaver,
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I DID! I liked "Coogan's Bluff", so I spotted it immediately. Do I get a cookie?
shareHey folks,
Some guys never cease to amaze me. Roe935 asks a simple question about “McCloud” and “McMillan & Wife,” and thinking that I liked these shows and remembered them well, I thought I would continue on reading the posts in this thread and perhaps add something to it.
Then Shootr2 really throws cold water on me. I seemed to remember a few shows back then which rotated weeks, but I have no recollection whatsoever of them being called "wheel shows," and I really do not even remember the two “Mc” shows being in a rotating series. As if that is not bad enough, Shootr2 then informs me that “McCloud” was part of a wheel show that included “Night Gallery,” “The Psychiatrist,” and “San Francisco International.” I really liked “McCloud” and do remember “Night Gallery,” but I have no recollection at all of the other two shows. None! Where is my memory?
TVholic apparently remembers all that stuff, and he throws in more information about the “Wednesday Mystery Movie” which I seem to have a little bit of a recollection of it, but absolutely no details like you guys remember quite clearly.
Then Vpilutis and Clintessence bring up the idea that “McCloud” was a knock-off of “Coogan’s Bluff,” and I want to take some kind of exception to that. I certainly remember both Clint Eastwood and Dennis Weaver going from the Southwest to New York City to return extradited criminals to their home jurisdictions, but that was the extent of the similarities. Coogan was one film while McCloud was assigned to NYC for several seasons of shows. The Coogan character was typical tough squinty eyed Clint while the McCloud character seemed to have a completely different charm about him. I will concede the basic premise of “McCloud” is similar to “Coogan’s Bluff,” but I would also submit that in several seasons of shows, “McCloud” went into many more storylines and characters.
Would you give me a little something that “Coogan” and “McCloud” were not exactly the same??? “OK then, there ya’ go.”
And someone give Clintessence a cookie.
Best wishes,
Dave Wile
In regards to David Wile's post, I have a few comments. Wheel shows were a popular fad in the '70's. In 1969, "The Bold Ones" premiered with "The New Doctors", "The Lawyers" and "The Protectors" rotating with each other. A year later "The Protectors" were replaced with "The Senator". That same year (1970), the four-in-one wheel of "McCloud", "San Francisco International", "Night Gallery" and "The Psychiatrist" premiered on Wednesday nights.
In 1971, "The Psychiatrist" and "San Francisco International" were cancelled, and "Night Gallery" was given its own weekly time slot. "McMillan & Wife" and "Columbo" were added to "McCloud" for the "Wednesday Night Mystery Movie".
In 1972, "Hec Ramsey" starring Richard Boone was added to the wheel, and the series was moved to Sundays, becoming the "NBC Sunday Mystery Movie". The "NBC Wednesday Mystery Movie" then started three brand new series; "Madigan" (starring Richard Widmark), "Cool Million" and "Banacek" with George Peppard. Also that year, another wheel show premiered on Thursdays called "The Men", which featured "Assignment Vienna" (Robert Conrad), "Dephi Bureau" and "Jigsaw".
In 1973, CBS got into the act with the "The Tuesday Night CBS Movie", featuring "Hawkins", "Shaft" and "The New CBS Tuesday Night Movie". On Wednesdays, "Tenafly", "Faraday & Co." and "The Snoop Sisters" joined the fray.
In 1974, "Amy Prentiss" was added on Sundays, followed by "McCoy" in 1975, and finally "Quincy, M.E." in 1976.
As far as "McCloud" ripping off "Coogan's Bluff", it's only the concept that was used for the TV series. Dennis Weaver brought his own take on the character to the screen, which differed vastly from Clint's. In the 60's and 70's, it was common practice to take a popular movie and create a TV series from the idea. For example, "The Odd Couple", "The Wackiest Ship In The Army", "No Time For Sergeants", "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea", "Shaft", "Planet Of The Apes", "The Defenders", "Greatest Show On Earth", "12 O'Clock High", "Please Don't Eat The Daisies", "Gidget", "Mr. Roberts", "Peyton Place", "Shane", etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum. (Not to mentioned that "Alias Smith & Jones" was taken from "Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid").
So . . . we will give David Wile a little something that "Coogan's Bluff" was not exactly the same as "McCloud". (He can have half of my cookie).
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Clintessence said:
"As far as "McCloud" ripping off "Coogan's Bluff", it's only the concept that was used for the TV series. "
In the opening credits of McCloud it says something to the effect of: "Based on characters created by Herman Miller." Miller was the writer for both "Coogan's Bluff" and "McCloud."
John
Hey JJDubs
I did not know that Miller wrote both shows. I probably misspoke by saying that "McCloud" ripped off "Coogan's Bluff". I really liked the movie and the TV series, so I was glad they had used the same concept for the TV series.
Tell me about 'Four in One.' Did it have its own distinctive opening, like the NBC Mystery Movie did?
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