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Question regarding the professors attemps to stop Collosus.


This film is totally awesome,even if it is nearly 40 yrs dated.I've watched it several times and always wondered why the guards (soldiers) executed the two professors who were attempting to overloard Collosus. I realize they were following Collosus' orders, just why didn't they refuse (I mean besides the fact it could launch nukes) as Collosus couldn't (yet) operate without human counterparts. Just wondering.Very chilling movie by the way!

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Because Colossus' answer to just about any argument was "because I'll nuke some city if you don't."

Do you allow 150,000 deaths to temporarily save 2 lives? The fact is that Colossus was utterly, utterly pragmatic. It would have been quite happy to wipe out half the human race to "save" the other half.

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Sorry, but I can't believe that people have actually said this could happen in real life. I enjoyed it as a movie and I think that is what people should do. It's just going to far when peoples paranoia makes them miss the obvious downfalls of a situation like this. First off has anyone remembered the thing called electricity. Yeah how about pull the freaking plug then take out the mother board and scrap the heap of junk. I can see someone breaking in taking over a computer but not us making a computer so good that no human can stop it. At least we are no where near the technology yet that is for sure.

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Given the planning put into Colossus and Guardian it is clear the first thing you would do is give the computer own power suppply (ala the Greenbriar fallout shelter or NORAD). Also remember Colossus and Guardian were designed as information gathering system so they would notice the effort needed to cut their power. I can see tha tin a fit of paranoia we could do something this dumb.

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Well, disregarding the question as to whether this scenario is realistic (I don't think it is), the problem was that the computer practically held the entire world population hostage by controlling the nuclear stockpiles of the two world powers. The bunkers housing Colossus and his Soviet counterpart were most certainly secured against nuclear strikes, and, as mentioned by the previous poster, had independent power sources that would supply them for years to come. It would be very difficult to take them out not only simultaneously, but quickly enough to prevent them from responding.

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Agreed. In data centers, there is always the "big red button", which often does something catastrophic to the power supply. These are necessary to force the loss of power in case of fire. Some IBM mainframes have a sharp blade driven by a hydraulic ram that physically severs the main copper wiring.

This sort of a panic button is built into humanoid robots that are bolted to tables. Actually, many panic buttons. There's one near the door, one on the table next to the bot, one over by the console...

There was a spectacularly bad design decision made when they didn't include multiple ways of disabling the machine, including at least one dead-man switch.

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They can't be that tough as in the second book aliens kill Collosus

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Which turns out worse!

However, I think the whole "impregnable computer" scenario is all about the folly of weak men shrugging off their most serious responsibilities so they could lay it all on their machines.

"It's not my fault..."

It's another "hubris/swift and mortifying ate" scenario.

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