Season 10,ep.14 shows McGarrett in merchant seaman disguise ,at bar taking to Michael Conrad-and drinking something that looks like BOOZEfrom a shotglass.in every previous episode McGarrett is strong nondrinker .SOMEBODY GOOFED .
shareWhat was the governor's full name?It seems it was never revealed. I'VE WATCHED EVERY EPISODE EVERY SEASON and never heard his first or last name mentioned.
shareWhat was the governor's full name? It seems it was never revealed. I'VE WATCHED EVERY EPISODE EVERY SEASON and never heard his first or last name mentioned. - hamstercuddles
What was the governor's name?share
The governor's name shows up first in "The 90-Second War". It isn't mentioned, it's seen. There is a scene where Jonathan Kaye has McGarrett, Army & Navy brass, and the governor in the secret Diamond Head bunker. Each man has a nameplate. The governor's clearly reads: Paul Jameson. That name is also used in "A Capitol Crime" when Barnard Hughes's character demands to speak to "Governor Paul Jameson."
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Being the 1960s and 1970s ,a lot of people in Government still (even after kennedy was shot) did not believe or felt they were or would be a target of anyone or any radical groups.
All that's changed since not only 9/11
but back to the Ronald Reagan shooting in 1981.
As for our TV Governor...hey,that's Hollywood!
I'm sure McGarret was proabbly drinking water ,no way Jack Lord would gof up and forget his character was a non-drinker. I'm sure he was faking to look authentic to whatever criminal he was trying to fool.
Go for it or just be a gopher!
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Okay ,i saw the peisode last night and th booze in question loks a bit
dark (whiskey?) and i watched carefully. Steve is 'pretending' to drink it.
Conrad's not rewally watching him ,so he puts it up to his lips but he doesn't let any into his mouth. I knw he says fill it up after Conrad leavs but we don't see him drink that either.
I have to admit ,I totally lost it when I saw him i
nthat mustache & get up. He looked like Stacy Keach on a bad day!
Go for it or just be a gopher!
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McGarrett always professed he was a non drinker, but what about in Cocoon, he has a glass of something on the beach with Nancy Kwan and pours two glasses of champagne and the end.was he going to pretend to drink that. Another episode, has Terri O'brien bringing a trolley full of food to his office (I take it there was a service lift in those days) and there was a bottle of wine in an ice bucket.
shareThe governor's clearly reads: Paul Jameson.
Do they ever say why McGarrett doesn't drink? There's nothing wrong with being a teetotaler, but as you say, he's pretty strong about it. I always wondered if there was a backstory.
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Well in the 11th season episode "Number One With a Bullet" we do find out that Steve's father was run over by a drunk driver.
But him being a teetotaler was established long before this revelation came about.
Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!
Maybe it was always part of his backstory from the first season in the minds of the producers? And then over the years people asked about it until they finally put it in the show? I think that's possible-it is unusual for a person not to drink AT ALL in our society. I know some people who drink very little, I personally almost never drink, but the only people I ever knew who didn't drink even one drop had a pretty definite reason for not drinking. Sometimes they were recovering alchoholics, but others had reasons similar to McGarrett's, some kind of tragedy involving a loved one and alchohol. So sad about McGarrett's father-me and both of my sisters have all been involved in drunk driving accidents. Mine was a drunk who had been arrested the night before in another state and came to my state and totaled my car. One of my sisters had a drunk t-bone her car running a red light. And my youngest sister has had her car slammed into by drunk drivers twice. Terrible.
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Yep I suppose that's possible.
I never drink either because of my Christian beliefs so I don't think it's that uncommon.
Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!
Except for Methodists, I never knew anybody say they weren't drinking because of their Christian beliefs. I was raised in a Baptist church and they always had beer at the cookouts. In a cooler behind a table where it was hard to see, but it was there. As you say, some people because of their religious beliefs don't drink, but I do think it's uncommon enough that people noticed it in McGarrett and it was addressed on the show. It's kind of interesting that they gave McGarrett this character trait, as it seems to be almost a rule that cops drink. I'm trying to think of even one cop on a TV show who didn't drink, and with the exception of Lenny Briscoe and Don Cragen on Law & Order (both recovering alchoholics) I can't think of a single one other than McGarrett.
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just watched both parts of , "#1 With A Bullet" last night!
Awesome that it included the songs from "Saturday Night Fever".
I found it odd that Steve would tell 'anything' personal like that
to someone with a criminal background. I woudn't tell that guy anything!
Didn;t Steve once say "Never volunteer information." (?)
Still,it was an interesting character
revelation for me (as i had not seen this one).
I think that's a great reason to not become a user of any
'inebreating' substances. For my own standing ,I've tried (only once each) :
Beer - YUK!
Vodka - Tried it ,just never had it again.
Gin - Tried and nealry gagged on the taste & nealry threw up.
Flavored Malt Liquor -
Only because of fruit flavor but..one hangover & it 'was' over.
Whiskey or other hard stuff ...No way I'd ever try them! Not even for $$$$$$$$.
I do however kinda like : White or Rose' Wines (I hate
that 'dark' stuff.) - Used to buy once in awhile for myself but
stopped. No real reason , just stopped. ...but now,only drink them with female company ,whooh!
Go for it or just be a gopher!
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Even aside from our family's Chiristian beliefs we never had any other close relatives or friends who drank (mostly for the same reason) so I was never compelled to drink. Still have no interest in it whatsoever. I tried a little beer when I was a kid and found it disgusting and had some wine and a margarita on 2 or 3 occasions but it's just not my thing. With all the beverages out there I have no need for alcohol. Plus why drink something that gives you a headache later? I've had my share of migraines over the years (not related to alcohol) so I sure don't need any more of them.
Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!
Jesus drank wine and passed it around to his Disciples at last supper. Also his first miracle was to produce wine. So I don't get it why a Christian wouldn't drink unless you are an ex alcoholic then it would be wise not to.
shareJesus drank wine and passed it around to his Disciples at last supper. Also his first miracle was to produce wine. So I don't get it why a Christian wouldn't drink unless you are an ex alcoholic then it would be wise not to.Probably has to do with the Puritan culture, that haunting fear that somewhere, someone might be enjoying themselves. It's like Muslims with the shroud that women wear in places like the Middle East or Pakistan or Afghanistan. I have been told by Muslims that there is nothing in the Koran about shrouding women like that, but culturally it became the thing to do. Or female genital mutilation, practiced in parts of Africa, there's nothing in the Koran about that, but there are Muslims in Africa who do it. If you read Ayaan Hirsi Ali you'll find a lot about practices that have nothing to do with Islam that are embraced by Muslims. Same with any religion. There's what the religion teaches, and then there's what people have made of it over the years. I'm a Christian and I drink. Not like a fish, but I do like me some single malt scotch on occasion.
We look at the wine that Jesus drank at the wedding to be the same type of wine that he drank during the Last Supper and that we drink during communion. Which is non-alcoholic and more like grape juice but not quite. The Bible teaches us not to "get drunk on wine" (Ephesians 5:18) (i.e. any beverage that is alcoholic and is capable of making you drunk).
It has nothing to do with oppression or being fearful of enjoying life too much. I sure hope my life isn't so sad that I depend on alcohol to enjoy life. I have a long list of things that make life enjoyable for me but alcohol isn't one of them. It's a non issue for me. I don't even think about it. It's simply something I don't do so it makes no difference in my life. Like golfing. It's not for me. Don't care for it. Never did. Doesn't mean my life is incomplete without it.
Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!
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Remember though, that when people tasted the wine Jesus created, they remarked that it tasted like the aged, old or stronger stuff and not the weaker stuff they later gave people after the stronger stuff. Where does it state that Jesus drank non alcoholic wine? Wine is good for the digestion and has health benefits.
If you look wine up, for example, it will state things like:
"The only significant type of mineral in red wine is manganese, a trace mineral. Manganese protects cells that are vulnerable to oxidative stress and free radicals by neutralizing the damaging compounds. It even has a role in running your metabolism, developing bone cartilage and healing wounds."
Don't think of wine as simply a drug. It is not. I can take it or leave it and people can't do that with addictive drugs.
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No, you are wrong. The Bible condemns gluttony so you must not eat one thing. Nothing. "Don't eat breaksfast,lunch or dinner or you're a sinner," I tell everybody.
And look how much better the US got during Prohibition when religious movement got rid of all spirits.
We will just have to agree to disagree.
One thing I'll add is that I need to eat in order to survive but I don't need to drink alcohol to survive. I prefer other drinks.
Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!
You have the choice to drink or not drink as you please. Fact is, the Bible does not condemn or say it is wrong for Christians to drink wine or any other alcoholic beverage--in moderation. Everyone who drinks alcohol is not an alcoholic.
shareMaybe it was always part of his backstory from the first season in the minds of the producers? And then over the years people asked about it until they finally put it in the show? - Zanza8
(Freeman) had often told me, "I don’t want to know anything about McGarrett's personal life. He exists only as a cop."
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McGarrett is seen pouring champagne into two glasses, a very rare event.
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#217
McGarrett and Rosemary sip champagne on the beach (a rarity for the teetotaler McGarrett).
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0pilot.htm
I never think anything that happens in a pilot is very significant. They didn't even have James McArthur in the pilot episode of Hawaii Five-0. The pilot is what they have to sell the show and significant changes may be made later. As to the champagne, I would have to see the episode for myself. That's a good website and so far I have found them to be accurate but I haven't seen some of the episodes for decades.
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I never think anything that happens in a pilot is very significant. - Zanza8
Sigh. Is it really so hard to comprehend that what happens in a pilot may or may not make it into the series? Wo Fat continued for twelve years, popping in and out until he was finally defeated. McGarrett's drinking did not continue. Some elements of a pilot may endure, others may not. Really this should not be so complicated.
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Sigh. Is it really so hard to comprehend that what happens in a pilot may or may not make it into the series? Wo Fat continued for twelve years, popping in and out until he was finally defeated. McGarrett's drinking did not continue. Some elements of a pilot may endure, others may not. Really this should not be so complicated. - Zanza8
Most fans regard the pilot as "Episode Zero."share
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0pilot.htm
We can agree to disagree on the significance of pilot episodes. You seem too argumentative to have a good discussion with anyway.
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We can agree to disagree on the significance of pilot episodes. - Zanza8
You seem too argumentative to have a good discussion with anyway. - Zanza8
You did a little more than quote me back to me. You could have been nicer in your response-there's nothing wrong with showing tolerance for a different opinion and exploring differences but I agree wtih you the discussion should be concluded.
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Boy what is it with people around here?
Why are we making a long thread about something Steve McGarrett drank?
Good question, since he really only drank once in the course of the whole show and was shown to abstain the rest of the time with the one exception of pouring a glass of champagne.
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You did a little more than quote me back to me. You could have been nicer in your response-there's nothing wrong with showing tolerance for a different opinion and exploring differences but I agree with you the discussion should be concluded. - Zanza8
I don't need a link to a board where people are mean! Tell you what, let's start over. I noticed on another thread you're working on a comparison between the original and the new Five-0 and it sounds like a fascinating project.
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I don't need a link to a board where people are mean! Tell you what, let's start over. - Zanza8
I noticed on another thread you're working on a comparison between the original and the new Five-0 and it sounds like a fascinating project. - Zanza8
Very interesting. However, it leaves a question unanswered that I have always wondered about. Why was Five-0 headquarters ever in the Iolani Palace to begin with? I'm not a social justice snowflake, but it does seem a bit inappropriate. It's the only palace on American soil, isn't it a museum in real life? It's a great looking building, but once I knew what it was, I always wondered, why was police headquarters there?
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Why was Five-0 headquarters ever in the Iolani Palace to begin with? It's the only palace on American soil, isn't it a museum in real life? It's a great looking building, but once I knew what it was, I always wondered, why was police headquarters there? - Zanza8
the building was used as the capitol building for the Provisional Government, Republic, Territory, and State of Hawaiʻi until 1969. The palace was restored and opened to the public as a museum in 1978.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BBIolani_Palace
Ah. Thank you for the information. Did you see the thread I made about King Kamehameha's cloak? I was so fascinated to read about that cloak-just amazing how it was constructed. Too bad the birds are gone.
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Ah. Thank you for the information. - Zanza8
Did you see the thread I made about King Kamehameha's cloak? I was so fascinated to read about that cloak-just amazing how it was constructed. Too bad the birds are gone. - Zanza8
Here's a link to a picture of the bird. You really can see why those feathers were so special. http://www.avibirds.com/html/extinct/Molokai_Oo.html#.VZdtvXqUzGc
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Here's a link to a picture of the bird. You really can see why those feathers were so special. http://www.avibirds.com/html/extinct/Molokai_Oo.html#.VZdtvXqUzGc - Zanza8
You seem too argumentative to have a good discussion with anyway.
That's the only thing you have to contribute? Being a bully? I never said the pilot didn't establish some of the elements of the series but you people seem awfully touchy about the pilot. It doesn't hurt to have tolerance for different opinions, you know.
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I'll leave others opinins alone here.
I'd like to get back to the original subject actually.
I think McGarrett is like I am with 'inebreating' beverages.
He says he never 'uses' it. I think he means ,not like most people would on a regular basis. ...but, if he's in the company of a lady he truly likes (or maybe even close friends) ,he'll have a 'touch' or 'sip' of wine or champagne.
I'm pretty much the same way ,except I've never had champagne.
...and please...don't ask why. I've just never had occaison to want to try it.
Go for it or just be a gopher!
(MR.) happipuppi13 🐕 *arf,man!*
Maybe it was always part of his backstory from the first season in the minds of the producers?
season 1 Once Upon a Time Danny and McGarrett both drink booze left over from a Christmas party after McGarrett gets the news of his nephew's imminent death.Hardly a good example. People do things in times of severe stress they normally would never do. I think the show did a good job of establishing that McGarrett generally avoided alchohol. It didn't really say why he did, but we see that he did.
Steve's father was run over by a drunk driver.
Have we had a bunch of stupid people that had taken over this board?
Stop dragging this on!
Have we had a bunch of stupid people that had taken over this board?Apparently so. You're so stupid you don't even know you don't have to read or comment on threads where you don't like the topic.
It was a grocery store robber.
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