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Thoughts on Season 10 (*spoilers*)


Fellow "Hawaii Five-O" (1968) fans,

In the tradition of Jeffman61's threads for "Thoughts on Season 6", "The new Season 7 release", and "Thoughts on Season 8" (all sadly now deleted), and my own "Thoughts on Season 9" (deleted but resurrected by ringfire211 here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622), I present this thread.

Long-time readers of this board will rightfully ask, "But wait, didn't you write this about five years ago?",

OK folks, this is it, the last disc of my last season of Hawaii Five-O.

Yes, I know that the series limped on for three more seasons before finally being put out of its misery. Yes, I know that things got so bad that Kam Fong wanted to "die", and James MacArthur ventured into the Amazon jungle rather than return for the final season (true story!). But I'm going to willingly delude myself into thinking that Season 9 was the end, and that Jack Lord and company managed to bring things to a reasonably satisfactory conclusion with some measure of their dignity still intact. - alpha128 (me)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?d=222001627#222001627


The answer is yes, I wrote that, and the part about the "last disc" is still true. I didn't buy the Season 10 DVD set. I've got a free, ad supported, viewing option now, and will be utilizing that to view and review these episodes.

In this initial post I will give my thoughts on three of the first four episodes of Season 10. Please be aware that this will have *spoilers*. So if you have not yet viewed all these episodes, you should either come back later, or read down only as far as you've watched.


"Up the Rebels"
No. in season: 1
Directed by: Don Weis
Written by: Robert Janes
Original air date: September 15, 1977

Some thoughts:

- At roughly the three minute mark I noted, as did Mike Quigley, that the frogmen who use knock-out gas on the soldiers don't have any protection from the gas themselves. They are wearing snorkels. I wonder if this scene, as scripted, had the frogmen in full scuba gear including oxygen tanks.

- At about 6:15, the white van driven by Foley, one of the bad guys, almost hits a bird! If you watch closely you can see the bird frantically swerve to avoid colliding with the van!

- At roughly the nine minute mark, I have to wonder how the unremarkable James Ryan ended up with such a babe for a girlfriend.

- Speaking of babes, Elayne Heilveil, who played Casey Fogarty, was very attractive. According to the IMDb she is still alive and was acting as recently as 2002.

- The episode title is spoken twice in this episode, once at 13:51 and again near the end at 48:41.

- Starting around the eighteen minute mark, McGarrett and Casey Fogarty walk outside near the Ilikai. The area they are in is decorated by various international flags. They pass, in order, the flags of Denmark, Unknown (mostly blue), what looks like The Netherlands (hanging upside-down!), Australia, and Norway.

- The musical score during the scene where Casey visits Sean Rourke (Stephen Boyd) at his hotel (20:05-23:45) is very effective. It seems to reference the Civil War song "When Johnny Comes Marching Home".

- Stephen Boyd gave an excellent performance. He'll always be "Grant" from Fantastic Voyage (1966) to me. I was sorry to learn that he died three weeks after filming this Five-O episode at the age of 45.

- This episode is the final appearance of Harry Endo as Che Fong. They start dropping like flies now. First Che Fong, then Chin Ho in this season's finale, and finally Danno after Season 11.

- At 37:19 I thought it was very clever how Rourke "paid off" Foley when he got too greedy.

- Oddly, at about 48:30, when McGarrett leads Rourke off the boat, Rourke is wearing handcuffs on only one wrist, while McGarrett is holding on to the other loop. Why didn't McGarrett cuff Rourke properly behind his back?

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "Up the Rebels" three stars and I would not dispute that. My only complaints about this episode would be that McGarrett seemed a bit old by then to leap from a drawbridge to a ship below, and the rest of the team seemed a bit underutilized.


"You Don't See Many Pirates These Days"
No. in season: 2
Directed by: Ronald Satlof
Story by: James Lydon, Teleplay by: Bill Stratton
Original air date: September 22, 1977

This episode isn't available on the streaming site I'm using. I have to skip it for now.


"The Cop on the Cover"
No. in season: 3
Directed by: Paul Stanley
Story by: Anne Collins, Teleplay by: Anne Collins and Gerry Day
Original air date: September 29, 1977

This episode was written by Anne Collins. Collins previously contributed "A Touch of Guilt", one of the best episodes of Season 8. She also wrote "See How She Runs", one of the worst episodes of Season 9 (see my review here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0598136/reviews).

Speaking of returns, this episode is full of them:

- Paul Stanley, who had been directing Five-O episodes as early as Season 1, and as most recently as Season 7, is back. Stanley directed one of ringfire211's and my favorite Five-O episodes, "Rest in Peace, Somebody" (1971).

- Henry Darrow, who played two different gangsters in Seasons 4 and 8 is also back, this time as Stewart Longworth, a "respectable" character.

- Jo Pruden, who plays Mrs. Longworth, had appeared in seven previous Five-O episodes and would appear in two future episodes. Her most memorable previous appearance may have been as Mrs. Klepper, who was instrumental in framing Ray Stokely in Season 6's "The Sunday Torch".

- Josie Over, who ultimately appeared in sixteen, count 'em, sixteen Five-O episodes is back again. According to the IMDb, she was also in the previous episode, "You Don't See Many Pirates These Days". But this is the first I've seen her since Season 8's "A Killer Grows Wings".

- Moe Keale, last seen as Din Lee in Season 8's "Legacy of Terror", also returns as Joe Moala, an ex-con bus driver who is framed.

- Even the home of Mrs. Royce in the Season 6 classic, "Draw Me a Killer", is back as the home of the Longworth family.

Other thoughts:

- At about 6:45, the Governor tells McGarrett, "You Irish are all alike, hotheads!" This is the first time I can recall a nationality or ethnicity being assigned to McGarrett other than Californian! . I guess it fits with the "Mc" in his name, but it seems odd it was never mentioned before, especially since we just had the Irish themed episode "Up the Rebels". I guess this is an example of what long-time Five-O scribe Jerome Coopersmith (who had quit the previous season) was referring to when he said:

I felt that the show had deteriorated in the hands of new managerial people. In their attempts to freshen the show up, they added new dimensions to Steve McGarrett's character.
http://mysteryscenemag.com/24-articles/filmandtv/4615-book-em-danno?highlight=WyJqZXJvbWUiLCJjb29wZXJzbWl0aCIsImplcm9tZSBjb29wZXJzbWl0aCJd


- At about the ten minute mark, McGarrett asks Duke, "Is Che going over the van?" Duke says yes, but we know that we'll never see Che Fong again! 😢

- Watch closely from 13:23-13:36 while Danno searches the bedroom of Joe Moala (Moe Keale). You can clearly see that the room is a set with no ceiling and with spotlights mounted on the top of the set wall!

- Watch closely again from 26:05-26:14 as reporter Terri O'Brien (Jean Simmons) interviews Stewart Longworth (Henry Darrow) in his office at ESSTR Corporation. The camera moves in closer to the round table as they sit down, and what appears to be an aluminum cart comes into view in the lower right corner of the frame.

- I was amused when, around 47:00, McGarrett lectures Terri O'Brien while leaving her gagged and unable to respond.

In the final analysis, Collins returns and finishes off her Five-O career with more hits than misses. "The Cop on the Cover" isn't as good as "A Touch of Guilt", which I gave three and a half stars, but I agree with Mike Quigley's three star rating.


"The Friends of Joey Kalima"
No. in season: 4
Directed by: Douglas Green and Don Weis
Written by: Robert Janes
Original air date: October 13, 1977

This episode is also full of returns:

- John Rubinstein, last seen as the very anti-police Harold in Season 5's "Pig in a Blanket", ironically plays the titular police officer Joey Kalima.

- Joey's wife Lily is portrayed by the babely Elaine Giftos, who also played Janice Lockman in one of my all-time favorite Five-O episodes (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls005352325/), Season 9's "The Last of the Great Paperhangers". She would later appear in a Season 12 episode. In addition to looking adorable with a flower in her hair, Giftos is very good in a scene where she gets emotional over Joey's predicament.

- Kimo Kahoano, last seen in Season 9's "Man in a Steel Frame", plays Reed in this episode. Kimo Kahoano ultimately appeared in 9 Five-O episodes.

- Likewise, Terry Plunkett, also last seen in Season 9's "Man in a Steel Frame", plays a bartender in this episode. Plunkett ultimately appeared in 16 Five-O episodes.

- Jimmy Borges, another long-time Five-O alum, who we last saw playing himself in Season 9's "A Capitol Crime", also returns. Borges ultimately appeared in 15 Five-O episodes, and earned a page (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/jimmyborges/) on Mike Quigley's web site.

- Seth Sakai, who ultimately appeared in twenty-three Five-O episodes (a full season's worth!) is back again. We last saw him in the excellent Season 9 episode "Chairman" er, "Target - A Cop".

- But the record goes to Kwan Hi Lim who plays Joey's "Uncle" Keoki. According to the IMDb, this was Kwan Hi Lim's twenty-first out of a total of twenty-five episodes.

Other thoughts:

- This episode opens with a scene in Marco's music store where Joey shops for vinyl records. Not long ago this scene would have seriously dated this episode. Ironically however, both vinyl records (http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/07/vinyl-records-are-still-riding-that-big-comeback-wave-sales-up-38-in-a-year/) and local record stores (http://www.wuft.org/news/2015/07/02/younger-generations-revive-vinyl-business-for-local-record-stores/) are now making a comeback.

- Alan Oppenheimer gave a great performance as multi-layered Internal Affairs Captain Fryer.

- At 29:37 we are introduced to Charlie, the pretty female Che Fong. I guess that's one way to deflect comparisons between the two characters.

- We finally learn, although it's no big surprise, that the villain's plan is to tunnel into a bank next door to the record shop. This is a plot similar to Season 4's "Didn't We Meet at a Murder?" not to mention the Sherlock Holmes' story "The Red Headed League". I can see what James McArthur meant when he said that, after Leonard Freeman's death, the series told and retold the same kind of stories.

In conclusion, I agree with Mike Quigley's two and a half star rating for "The Friends of Joey Kalima". It's not very original, but it's competently done.

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Although I'm not actually watching these episodes on disc, it's convenient to organize my posts this way. This post does include *spoilers*.


"The Descent of the Torches"
No. in season: 5
Directed by: Douglas Green
Written by: Alvin Sapinsley
Original air date: October 20, 1977

Unfortunately, this episode (the only Season 10 episode Mike Quigley gave a four star rating) isn't available on the streaming site I'm using. I have to skip it for now.


"The Ninth Step"
No. in season: 6
Directed by: Dennis Donnelly
Written by: Robert Pirosh
Original air date: October 27, 1977

"The Ninth Step" guest stars Gil Gerard as Marty Cobb, a former HPD officer and recovering alcoholic.

Some thoughts:

- It's been years since I've seen it, but it couldn't be more obvious to me that the car crash footage at about 4:10 is recycled from the Season 9 episode "Chairman" er, "Target - A Cop". However, I know that the fireball is a Season 10 addition because I previously wrote about "Target - A Cop":

Impressive stunt work at the 38 minute mark as Ryder's car flips and rolls. How refreshing that the car didn't burst into flames. - alpha128 (me)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?p=2&d=217763761#217763761


- At the seven minute mark, a San Francisco based anchorman gives the following weather report, "Blue skies, more of that hot sunny weather. Our poor California ranches and wineries. Let us all send up a small prayer this weekend for that much needed rainfall." Wow! How long has the California drought been going on? For comparison, here's an actual news report from April of this year:
http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/california-drought--billions-at-stake-as-farmland-dries-up-421427267534

- Seth Sakai, who we just saw in "The Friends of Joey Kalima" is back again. In "Kalima" he was bald, and this time it looks like he's wearing a wig. By my count this is the third time Sakai has played a character also named "Sakai".

- Cobb's ex-girlfriend Mavis Tracy is played by Lynne Ellen Hollinger. Appropriately, "The Ninth Step" was her ninth out of eleven Five-O episodes. I think her most memorable previous appearance was in Season 8's "Retire in Sunny Hawaii... Forever" where she played a corrupt State of Hawaii official.

- From 25:16-26:36, Elissa Dulce, pre-eminent Five-O babe, returns as "Melia" http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/elissa/Ninth/. This is a much more substantial role than her previous appearance in "Man in a Steel Frame". More Elissa is always a good thing!  I have to wonder though, where the unemployed Marty got that roll of bills.

- At 46:48 we see Marty wearing a cap while driving the armored car. However, I double-checked and Duke did put his cap in the armored car before Marty drove off in it. So this isn't a continuity error!

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "The Ninth Step" two stars and I would not dispute that. It is a little slow at times and has a few plot holes, but it's not a bad episode.


"Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon"
No. in season: 7
Directed by: Ronald Satlof
Story by: Robert Janes and Diana Kopald Marcus, Teleplay by: Robert Janes
Original air date: November 10, 1977

In this episode, former Apollo astronaut Richard Royce (James Wainwright) is now working as a spokesman for sleazy real estate developer Frank Devlin (Alan Miller).

Some thoughts and observations:

- I immediately recognized John Gracciano, who played Savage's goon Tony in Season 7's "A Gun for McGarrett". Here he likewise plays Frank Devlin's creepy associate Otis. Actually, Devlin acts very much like a gangster in this episode, although it's never stated that he has ties to organized crime.

- At the four minute mark, a rigged payphone explodes when the receiver is returned the cradle. Yup, I saw that one coming!

- At 12:04 Royce's girlfriend comes into view and asks, "What do you think?" I think you look great!

- Good line from McGarrett right before the first act break (around 15:10), "Heroes live as long as people respect them."

- I see that Joey Kalima's "Uncle" Keoki has given up gambling and taken up ranching!  According to the IMDb, this was Kwan Hi Lim's twenty-second out of a total of twenty-five episodes.

- At 21:18, I see that Frank Devlin is now living in the former home of Stewart Longworth ("The Cop on the Cover").

- Around the thirty-three minute mark, Royce's girlfriend suggests he blackmail Devlin - the guy who's already had two men killed. Now I think you're being stupid, honey!

- Speaking of being stupid, near the end of the episode Royce goes to Devlin's house. Royce takes with him an audio tape on which Devlin admitted his role in the two murders. Royce then decides to bring Devlin to the authorities himself! Astronaut Royce could have saved himself a world (pun intended) of trouble if he had just taken the tape to McGarrett.

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon" two stars and I agree with that rating. I thought the reveal that Royce's girlfriend was actually working for Devlin the whole time was well handled, but the episode is mediocre overall.


"Deadly Doubles"
No. in season: 8
Directed by: Marc Daniels
Written by: Robert Janes
Original air date: November 17, 1977

This episode is about Soviet tennis star Katrina Bukowski (Carole Tru Foster) who wishes to defect to the West.

Guest stars in this episode include Tim Matheson as Brent Saunders, the American who helps Katrina escape, and Kurt Russell as Peter Valchek, one of Katrina's Soviet teammates and a smuggler turned murderer. Matheson was the original Jonny Quest voice, and would star in "Animal House" the following year. Kurt Russell, who has a less than convincing Russian accent in this episode, would soon achieve his breakout role in John Carpenter's "Escape from New York" (1981).

Some thoughts and observations:

- At the seven minute mark, I thought it clever how Katrina used a towel rack as a makeshift ladder.

- At the eight minute mark, as Katrina and Brent Saunders flee, there is no question that the stadium exterior is the same one used by the circus in Season 7's "Presenting...in the Center Ring...Murder". The interior could also be the same, but I'm not sure.

- Around the eighteen minute mark, I don't understand why Saunders is not honest with McGarrett from the beginning. His involvement with Katrina's escape is bound to come out sooner or later. Doesn't Saunders realize that McGarrett works for the Governor, and could be his greatest ally in getting asylum for Katrina? This smells like a needless plot complication to make sure the episode doesn't end too quickly.

- At 18:30 it's good to see Bill Edwards back as Jonathan Kaye. Although I prefer Joseph Sirola (my favorite) and Tim O'Connor as Kaye, I always liked Bill Edwards in the role.

- At 21:27 we cut to a live report by "Larry Kent". I thought the actor playing Kent looked familiar. A quick check of the IMDb reveals that Kent is played by Charles Hallahan who appeared, along with Kurt Russell, in John Carpenter's "The Thing" (1982)!

- Starting at 24:19, we have another lab scene with Lydia Lei Kayahara playing "Charlie". She is pretty, and good in the role, but I still miss Harry Endo as Che Fong! If I get as far as Season 11, I don't know if I'll be able to withstand the loss of Chin Ho!

- Around the thirty minute mark, Saunders blows another opportunity to come clean to McGarrett. Considering Saunders was just threatened by Soviet Cultural Liaison/Intelligence Officer Sergei Borzov, I half-expected Saunders to take it, but oh, look at the time! There's still twenty minutes of episode to fill!

- Around the thirty-four minute mark, Saunders and Katrina out-run the two Soviet agents pursuing them. I guess being a star athlete has its advantages! The agent in the light blue suit looked like he was about to have a heart attack!

- At 35:04 Saunders finally meets with McGarrett and starts to tell him the truth. Way to go, buddy! You managed to pad out the episode by seventeen minutes!

In conclusion, the last ten minutes of this episode actually turned out to be pretty tense and exciting, and the first ten were pretty solid, but that middle thirty - padding city! Mike Quigley gives "Deadly Doubles" two stars and I concur.


Recap of Season 10 (so far):

I did miss two episodes, but I think I've seen enough to give a fair assessment of Season 10 (so far).

One third of the way in, I'd say no outright stinkers, but the only truly impressive episode I've seen is "Up the Rebels", and even that seemed lacking compared to the great episodes in the first third of Season 9, namely "Nine Dragons" and "The Last of The Great Paperhangers".

I expected Season 10 to be an express elevator to hell, going down! In fact, it's more like a hot air balloon descent to the Asphodel Meadows. In other words, I totally agree with the following assessment:

(The Tenth Season is) the year this once-great series was starting to show its age, and its gradual decline began to set in. The average episode is still okay, but the gems are fewer and farther between and this season has more than a few dogs.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/46453/hawaii-five-o-tenth-season/


I haven't encountered those dogs yet, but I'm sure they're out there ("When Does a War End?" I'm talking to you).

In addition, and maybe it's a function of watching these episodes on my computer instead of my TV, I seem to be pausing the episodes a lot. But it seems the pausing happens on the two-star episodes. I had no problem watching "Up the Rebels" and "The Cop on the Cover" twice.

But fear not fellow "Hawaii Five-O" (1968) fans, it looks like most Season 10 episodes are available on the streaming site I'm using, and I intend to continue this thread.

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"The Descent of the Torches"

Unfortunately, this episode (the only Season 10 episode Mike Quigley gave a four star rating) isn't available on the streaming site I'm using. I have to skip it for now.

You're not missing out on much, if you ask me. I have no idea why Mr. Mike gives this one **** stars. This is "Let Death Do Us Part" territory - not deserving of more than * 1/2 star! It's pretty dull for the most part. Whatever mystery there might be just isn't enough for me. It's supposed to be the most "Hawaiian" episode but that doesn't automatically make it great. There's a season 12 episode called "The Kahuna" which has a strong Hawaiian undercurrent but it doesn't stop it from being a turkey. And while for the most part I like the season 1 finale "The Big Kahuna" (my personal favorite "Hawaiian" episode) it's not one of the better episodes of that season. But I'll let you decide for yourself if you ever get around to this one. It does have some nice outdoorsy scenery courtesy of the Big Island and screen/stage legend Geraldine Page. So there's that. But that's about it. Oh, and it's written by the Vashon quadrilogy scribe Alvin Sapinsley.


"The Ninth Step"

- It's been years since I've seen it, but it couldn't be more obvious to me that the car crash footage at about 4:10 is recycled from the Season 9 episode "Chairman" er, "Target - A Cop".

Indeed it is. You just don't forget that car flip in "Chairman"! I mean how many car flips did this show have? Not too many. This wasn't THE A-TEAM.

However, I know that the fireball is a Season 10 addition because I previously wrote about "Target - A Cop":
Impressive stunt work at the 38 minute mark as Ryder's car flips and rolls. How refreshing that the car didn't burst into flames.

Until season 10. BOOM!!! 

- From 25:16-26:36, Elissa Dulce, pre-eminent Five-O babe, returns as "Melia". This is a much more substantial role than her previous appearance in "Man in a Steel Frame". More Elissa is always a good thing!

I especially like the fact that she plays a bad girl here. Naughty Elissa this time.  You expect someone like Josie Over to play a shady character like Melia. But nope, it's good-natured wholesome Elissa this time!

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "The Ninth Step" two stars and I would not dispute that. It is a little slow at times and has a few plot holes, but it's not a bad episode.

I'd say it deserves more than two stars. I'd go for ** 1/2. It's about on par with "You Don't See Many Pirates These Days". Maybe even a little better.


"Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon"

- I immediately recognized John Gracciano, who played Savage's goon Tony in Season 7's "A Gun for McGarrett". Here he likewise plays Frank Devlin's creepy associate Otis.

Don't forget his turn as Sherrick's (George Wyner) partner, both enforcers working for Weston (Thayer David), in "Double Exposure". He nearly runs into the camera where you could almost see his nose hairs!

Actually, Devlin acts very much like a gangster in this episode, although it's never stated that he has ties to organized crime.

Yep, for a simple real estate developer he sure uses some brutal tactics!

- At the four minute mark, a rigged payphone explodes when the receiver is returned the cradle. Yup, I saw that one coming!

I think everyone saw that one coming!  BOOM!!!

- At 12:04 Royce's girlfriend comes into view and asks, "What do you think?" I think you look great!

Christina Hart was a total babe back then! I remember her on an episode of THREE'S COMPANY (also from 1977) - YOWZA!!! She is still gorgeous today: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/threescompany/images/7/75/ChristinaHart.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130327215331

- At 21:18, I see that Frank Devlin is now living in the former home of Stewart Longworth ("The Cop on the Cover").

As well as the home of Pendelton (Robert Witthans) in "Oldest Profession - Latest Price" and the rich older lady in season 2's "Most Likely to Murder" and many others. That house is a revolving door I tell ya!

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon" two stars and I agree with that rating. I thought the reveal that Royce's girlfriend was actually working for Devlin the whole time was well handled, but the episode is mediocre overall.

I think the episode deserves more than two stars. I'm teetering between ** 1/2 and *** stars.

Interesting thing to note - the episode opens on Waikiki Beach (when the episode title is displayed) and we see palm trees and the tall high-rise hotel. Just before the camera pans upward to the top of the hotel you can see a smaller beige hotel right below it. That's the Aston Waikiki Beachside - the hotel where I stayed during my trip to Hawaii in the summer of 2008! This was filmed in 1977. 9 years earlier in 1968 in "Cocoon" you'll see that the high-rise is nowhere to be seen but my hotel was already standing even then!  You can see it at the beginning when McGarrett is driving down Kalakaua Ave. through Waikiki as he makes his way to Hanauma Bay where he discovers his old colleague Hennessy's dead body.


"Deadly Doubles"

- At the eight minute mark, as Katrina and Brent Saunders flee, there is no question that the stadium exterior is the same one used by the circus in Season 7's "Presenting...in the Center Ring...Murder". The interior could also be the same, but I'm not sure.

I can't recall off the top of my head if it's the same stadium or not (exteriors and interiors). I'd have to check the season 7 episode. It makes sense that it would be.

- At 21:27 we cut to a live report by "Larry Kent". I thought the actor playing Kent looked familiar. A quick check of the IMDb reveals that Kent is played by Charles Hallahan who appeared, along with Kurt Russell, in John Carpenter's "The Thing" (1982)!

To me Charles Hallahan will always be Capt. Charlie Devane, Rick Hunter's (Fred Dryer) superior in the 80s cop show HUNTER!

In conclusion, the last ten minutes of this episode actually turned out to be pretty tense and exciting, and the first ten were pretty solid, but that middle thirty - padding city! Mike Quigley gives "Deadly Doubles" two stars and I concur.

I agree with you. Too much padding in the middle section. I agree with the ** stars for this one. Plus the whole "Soviets/Cold War comes to Hawaii" story seemed a bit far-fetched. Especially for 1977. Somehow I can buy Red Chinese agents in Hawaii. But Russians? Not so much. Heck, by this point even Wo Fat was no longer working for Red China. But not to worry - in seasons 11 and 12 we'll have Nazis in Hawaii!


Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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"The Descent of the Torches"

You're not missing out on much, if you ask me. I have no idea why Mr. Mike gives this one **** stars. This is "Let Death Do Us Part" territory - not deserving of more than * 1/2 star! It's pretty dull for the most part. - ringfire211


I wondered about that, because the IMDb rating for this episode is an undistinguished 5.4/10, quite a difference from Mr. Mike's perfect 4/4 rating.


"The Ninth Step"

I especially like the fact that (Elissa Dulce) plays a bad girl here. Naughty Elissa this time. You expect someone like Josie Over to play a shady character like Melia. But nope, it's good-natured wholesome Elissa this time! - ringfire211


Very true, that's a good point!


"Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon"

Christina Hart was a total babe back then! I remember her on an episode of THREE'S COMPANY (also from 1977) - YOWZA!!! - ringfire211


Yes, indeed!  At least we get some hot babes to liven up these otherwise mediocre episodes!


"Deadly Doubles"

I can't recall off the top of my head if it's the same stadium or not (exteriors and interiors). I'd have to check the season 7 episode. It makes sense that it would be. - ringfire211


I did check the "Presenting...in the Center Ring...Murder" and I guarantee it's the same stadium exterior. I'm not 100% sure about the interior though.

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One third of the way in, I'd say no outright stinkers, but the only truly impressive episode I've seen is "Up the Rebels", and even that seemed lacking compared to the great episodes in the first third of Season 9, namely "Nine Dragons" and "The Last of The Great Paperhangers".

Not only those two classics but also "Assault on the Palace", "Tour De Force - Killer Aboard, and "Heads, You're Dead" were superior to the 8 episodes thus far in season 10. But I still maintain that even during its lesser seasons it was still more than watchable! What was the alternative at the time? CHARLIE'S ANGELS? HART TO HART? DUKES OF HAZZARD? No thanks. I'll stick with season 12 of FIVE-0 (even though HART TO HART and ANGELS had their moments).

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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One third of the way in, I'd say no outright stinkers, but the only truly impressive episode I've seen is "Up the Rebels", and even that seemed lacking compared to the great episodes in the first third of Season 9, namely "Nine Dragons" and "The Last of The Great Paperhangers". - alpha128 (me)


Not only those two classics but also "Assault on the Palace", "Tour De Force - Killer Aboard, and "Heads, You're Dead" were superior to the 8 episodes thus far in season 10. - ringfire211


To do a more in depth comparison of Season 9 vs. Season 10, here are my ratings for the first two discs of Season 9 (ratings on the MJQ scale from 1 to 4 stars):


192. Nine Dragons 4.0 Excellent
193. Assault on the Palace 3.0 Excellent
194. Oldest Profession -- Latest Price 2.5 Good
195. Man on Fire 2.0 Fair
196. Tour de Force -- Killer Aboard 2.5 Good
197. The Last of the Great Paperhangers 3.5 Excellent
198. Heads, You're Dead 2.5 Good


And here are my comparable ratings for Season 10:

215. Up the Rebels 3.0 Excellent
216. You Don't See Many Pirates These Days N/A N/A
217. The Cop on the Cover 3.0 Excellent
218. The Friends of Joey Kalima 2.5 Good
219. Descent of the Torches N/A N/A
220. The Ninth Step 2.0 Fair
221. Shake Hands With the Man on the Moon 2.0 Fair
222. Deadly Doubles 2.0 Fair


So I'd say that "Up the Rebels" is about on par with "Assault on the Palace" and superior to "Tour de Force - Killer Aboard" and "Heads, You're Dead".

But I still maintain that even during its lesser seasons it was still more than watchable! What was the alternative at the time? CHARLIE'S ANGELS? HART TO HART? DUKES OF HAZZARD? No thanks. I'll stick with season 12 of FIVE-0 (even though HART TO HART and ANGELS had their moments). - ringfire211


Yes, but it's now 2015 and we have a lot more viewing options. Five-O Season 10 is my project until my Person of Interest Season 4 DVDs get delivered in mid-August.

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So I'd so that "Up the Rebels" is about on par with "Assault on the Palace" and superior to "Tour de Force - Killer Aboard" and "Heads, You're Dead".

"Up the Rebels" is the best one so far in season 10 but I still prefer the other 3 from season 9. "Assault" is a great heist caper, "Killer" has an assassination plot and I'm a sucker for those (plus that climb up the Ilikai at the end looked magnificent!), and "Heads" has a creepy vibe with the trio of white trash hijackers/killers.

Yes, but it's now 2015 and we have a lot more viewing options. Five-O Season 10 is my project until my Person of Interest Season 4 DVDs get delivered in mid-August.

I noticed you're a fan of POI. I actually saw a few episodes here and there (during the show's 2nd and 3rd seasons) and found it quite good. But being busy with work and other things I stopped watching it. I also saw the first 3 or 4 episodes of BLUE BLOODS (the other CBS show with Tom Selleck) via Netflix streaming and that too is a good cop show. Unlike the new FIVE-0 which instead of being a cop show is some kind of mish-mash of Jerry Bruckheimer actioner mixed with some CSI mixed with some sitcom mixed with some soap opera. Have you seen any of the new FIVE-0? I haven't bothered with it since the Ed Asner episode from season 2 (where he reprised his August March role from "Wooden Model of a Rat").


I noticed an interesting thing some time back when I checked the original FIVE-0's ratings season-by-season. The show was gradually rising in the ratings until it hit its peak during the 1972-1973 season where it was #3 (only behind ALL IN THE FAMILY and SANFORD AND SON). The following season 1973-1974 it still stayed strong at #5. During 1974-1975 it dropped a bit to the #10 spot which was still by no means bad. But here's the shocker - it's nowhere in the top 30 during its 8th season (1975-1976)!  http://www.classictvhits.com/tvratings/1975.htm. I like both seasons 7 and 8 equally (I saw no drop in quality) and I know that you personally preferred 8 to 7 (seasons 6 and 8 are your favorites if I recall correctly). But then if you look at 1976-1977 we're back in the game - #19. Even during 1977-1978 (the "jump the shark" season if you will) it's still in the top 30 - at #23. Then it drops off the top 30 during the last 2 seasons - that I can understand. But I'm really puzzled by its absence from the top 30 during season 8. It almost makes me think there's some error there. You don't just drop off the map like that - from #10 to disappearing from the top 30 completely. Then rebound the next season to #19. If there was a huge drop in quality then I could understand but no such thing happened. But then even if there had been some drop in quality it still wouldn't drop like this because the momentum from the previous season would still carry it. Folks would still be tuning in hoping to see more of what they saw the previous season. I know the Five-0 unit was now a 3-member team (with Duke the unofficial 4th member) after Ben's departure, but Ben had departed during the middle of season 7 (with Frank Kamana filling in as the unofficial 4th member for the remainder of the season) so this shouldn't have come as some sort of shock or caused the ratings to decline. I checked another source which only shows the top 20 for the season and it wasn't there either: http://ctva.biz/US/TV-Ratings/CTVA_NielsenRatings_1975-1976.htm. I'm convinced it must be some kind of error. What do you think?

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Five-O Season 10 is my project until my Person of Interest Season 4 DVDs get delivered in mid-August. - alpha128 (me)


I noticed you're a fan of POI. I actually saw a few episodes here and there (during the show's 2nd and 3rd seasons) and found it quite good. But being busy with work and other things I stopped watching it. - ringfire211


My friends hooked me on POI. Then I hooked my parents on it; I pitched it to them as "Sherlock Holmes meets James Bond". You will be pleased to learn that POI is coming to Netflix this fall, so you can see what you've been missing!

Have you seen any of the new FIVE-0? I haven't bothered with it since the Ed Asner episode from season 2 (where he reprised his August March role from "Wooden Model of a Rat"). - ringfire211


Yes, I've seen some of the new Five-0, AKA http://s1196.photobucket.com/user/alpha128_imdb/media/Hawaii%20Five-O/NewFive-O.jpg.html. I watched all of Season 1 and thought the first season finale was surprisingly good. Then the second season quickly became a chore to watch and about halfway through I bailed. However I did come back for the "Hookman" remake, which I thought was very good for the new series. I never bothered to watch the Ed Asner episode.

I noticed an interesting thing some time back when I checked the original FIVE-0's ratings season-by-season... It's nowhere in the top 30 during its 8th season (1975-1976)!... I'm really puzzled by its absence from the top 30 during season 8. I'm convinced it must be some kind of error. What do you think? - ringfire211


I agree with you that it's most likely an error. That was 40 years ago, incomplete or inaccurate rating information would not surprise me.

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My friends hooked me on POI. Then I hooked my parents on it; I pitched it to them as "Sherlock Holmes meets James Bond".

Sherlock Holmes meets James Bond? Really? Don't know if I see that. To me it's more like 24 meets THE TERMINATOR. You've got crazy conspiracies and plot twists going on mixed with what feels like science fiction/futuristic elements with the whole "Machine" premise. It's not quite science fiction but that's the best I can do at the moment. Maybe something akin to I, ROBOT or EAGLE EYE.

You will be pleased to learn that POI is coming to Netflix this fall, so you can see what you've been missing!

Great! I can see how it all began.

However I did come back for the "Hookman" remake, which I thought was very good for the new series. I never bothered to watch the Ed Asner episode.

Yes, that was the one episode I saw from season 3. It was pretty good but couldn't hold a candle to the original. Even with Peter Weller (who played a villain perfectly on "24") playing Curt Stoner, I still preferred Jay J. Armes (a non-actor at that). I also remembered that I saw one episode from season 4 - a very good one called "Ho’ onani Makuakane (Honor Thy Father)". It's the much-lauded Pearl Harbor episode and a rare episode that Mr. Mike gave 4 stars to. But I've seen nothing else after that.

I agree with you that it's most likely an error. That was 40 years ago, incomplete or inaccurate rating information would not surprise me.

Yes, I've convinced that's what it must be.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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Sherlock Holmes meets James Bond? Really? Don't know if I see that. To me it's more like 24 meets THE TERMINATOR. - ringfire211


It's a more appropriate analogy in the early part of the series. The Sherlock Holmes part is the piecing together of the clues, the James Bond part is ex-spy Reese doing his spy thing.

You will be pleased to learn that POI is coming to Netflix this fall, so you can see what you've been missing! - alpha128 (me)


Great! I can see how it all began. - ringfire211


It starts out with more standalone episodes, but becomes more serialized as it goes. It becomes quite binge-worthy. I watched the entire third season on DVD in two weeks!

Yes, ("Hookman") was the one episode I saw from season 3. It was pretty good but couldn't hold a candle to the original. - ringfire211


I didn't expect it to approach the quality level of the Emmy winning original, but for a remake episode in a remake series, it was pretty good.

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Here is something else I discovered regarding season 8 (1975-1976) of FIVE-0.

Here is the primetime lineup for that season: http://www.reruncentury.com/primetime/1975-1976/

You'll see that FIVE-0 was on Friday night during that season. It's the only season where the show was on Friday night. After 4 seasons of being on Tuesday night it switches to Friday night. I wonder if the switch threw some people off. On top of that I believe Friday night is considered to be the worst night for a show to be on since most people aren't at home watching TV. So I wonder if the switch to a Friday night slot may have affected the show in the ratings. It was moved to Thursday night the next season (where it stayed for the remainder of its run) and the ratings went up.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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Thanks for posting your episode reviews, alpha!

"Up the Rebels"

- At about 6:15, the white van driven by Foley, one of the bad guys, almost hits a bird! If you watch closely you can see the bird frantically swerve to avoid colliding with the van!

Good catch! Never noticed it before. Netflix isn't streaming season 10 anymore so I just googled "Up the Rebels" and noticed that it's available on dailymotion.com (but the picture quality is kinda crappy).

- At roughly the nine minute mark, I have to wonder how the unremarkable James Ryan ended up with such a babe for a girlfriend.

Exactly my thought as well! She looks totally bored too living there.

- Speaking of babes, Elayne Heilveil, who played Casey Fogarty, was very attractive. According to the IMDb she is still alive and was acting as recently as 2002.

I dunno, I don't really see it. I've seen her before in some other shows too and she never really did anything for me. Maybe just a little attractive but I'd never call her a babe.

- The musical score during the scene where Casey visits Sean Rourke (Stephen Boyd) at his hotel (20:05-23:45) is very effective. It seems to reference the Civil War song "When Johnny Comes Marching Home".

While the score by Morton Stevens isn't on par with some of his earlier stellar compositions it is pretty effective in certain scenes. The one you mentioned was very good (it's reused at the end again when Stephen Boyd is booked and he says "up the rebels"). I really like the scene where Stephen Boyd comes to visit James Ryan by knocking on his door just before he kills him. The creepy score there (lots of creepy violins) sounds like Bernard Herrmann's PSYCHO! I also like the music when Duke follows Boyd after McGarrett talks with "the father" as well as the chase music at the end after McG orders on his bullhorn that the drawbridge stay closed. This particular piece of music will be used at least 2 more times during this season (in "Angel in Blue" and "Tall on the Wave").

- Stephen Boyd gave an excellent performance. He'll always be "Grant" from Fantastic Voyage (1966) to me. I was sorry to learn that he died three weeks after filming this Five-O episode at the age of 45.

Indeed an excellent performance! My favorite is the scene between him and McGarrett outside the orphanage. Two veteran actors doing what they do best! I love this exchange:

Rourke/Costigan: "I do God's work"
McGarrett: "And I do police work. So let us work together so it doesn't become the devil's work"

For me Boyd will always be the evil Messala from BEN-HUR!

- At 37:19 I thought it was very clever how Rourke "paid off" Foley when he got too greedy.

Yep, that's a great scene! What's really funny is that just prior to this scene Rourke is doing his best to convince Casey Fogarty that he had nothing to do with James Ryan's death. Next thing you know he's blowing up Foley sky high (with Miss Fogarty sitting right there next to him and witnessing it all!). He then just proceeds to feed her the "tactical necessity" line.  I just think it's pretty funny!

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "Up the Rebels" three stars and I would not dispute that. My only complaints about this episode would be that McGarrett seemed a bit old by then to leap from a drawbridge to a ship below, and the rest of the team seemed a bit underutilized.

Yes, I think I'm in the *** star camp as well on this one. Actually I think I like it better these days than I used to long ago.


"The Cop on the Cover"

Speaking of returns, this episode is full of them:

- Paul Stanley, who had been directing Five-O episodes as early as Season 1, and as most recently as Season 7, is back. Stanley directed one of ringfire211's and my favorite Five-O episodes, "Rest in Peace, Somebody" (1971).

 Here here!! Michael O'Herlihy, Charles Dubin, and Paul Stanley are my golden trio of favorite FIVE-0 directors!

- Henry Darrow, who played two different gangsters in Seasons 4 and 8 is also back, this time as Stewart Longworth, a "respectable" character.

Meh, there's nothing respectable about him being "respectable".  Johnny Oporta back in season 4 was simply sublime!! That was Henry Darrow at his absolute oily and slimy best! Mr. Mike says in his review Darrow was channeling Kirk Douglas with his Oporta performance. I can't say I ever think of Kirk when watching Johnny Oporta.

- Moe Keale, last seen as Din Lee in Season 8's "Legacy of Terror", also returns as Joe Moala, an ex-con bus driver who is framed.

And if you don't bail on us before season 12 you'll see him play new Five-0 member Moe "Truck" Kealoha! 

- At about 6:45, the Governor tells McGarrett, "You Irish are all alike, hotheads!"

I really like this whole scene between McG and the Gov!

- Watch closely from 13:23-13:36 while Danno searches the bedroom of Joe Moala (Moe Keale). You can clearly see that the room is a set with no ceiling and with spotlights mounted on the top of the set wall!

Oh wow! Can't believe I never spotted this. It's as clear as day!

- I was amused when, around 47:00, McGarrett lectures Terri O'Brien while leaving her gagged and unable to respond.

Yep, an amusing moment! I think Jean Simmons and Jack Lord had good chemistry in this episode. Terri a flaming feminist and McG a staunch old-school "it's a man's world" type. Sparks are bound to fly and they do! Again, two veteran actors working together. I love it when McG tells her that "truth doesn't come floating in on the morning tide" and she asks him "Confucius?" and he responds brilliantly "No, McGarrett". 

Speaking of veteran actors, it seems they kicked off season 10 with some high profile guest stars - Stephen Boyd, Rossano Brazzi, Jean Simmons, then Geraldine Page two episodes later. Later in the season we get Eleanor Parker, Mildred Natwick, Peter Lawford. These are all big screen or stage actors. Not exactly TV character actors like Andrew Duggan or Simon Oakland.

This episode has my favorite new piece of music this season. It's credited to Richard Markowitz (his only FIVE-0 score, he had scored a number of MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE and MANNIX episodes) and it occurs near the beginning when Longworth gets on the bus to make the ransom money drop. It plays during that whole bus sequence and it's extremely catchy! It will be used 2 or 3 more times this season as stock music. In fact it plays in the very next episode "The Friends of Joey Kalima" when they are crawling through the tunnels.

I'd give it *** stars as well. Maybe a little below "Up the Rebels" but Simmons and Lord really make it work. It's less about the kidnapping story (we've seen this before) or the man wrongly accused (ditto) but a female reporter following McG around is something new. It might not sound so great in concept but in execution it worked!


"The Friends of Joey Kalima"

This episode is also full of returns:

Indeed. I think you listed just about every "stock player" there was on this show! I'll also mention the director Douglas Green - he directed a handful of season 6 and 7 episodes. Prior to that he was an assistant director on the show (in the earlier seasons). During season 10 he was the Executive Producer! You see his name during the freeze frame finale for the first few episodes. Strange that this one had 2 directors - Green and Don Weis! Never seen that before. Wonder why...

- At 29:37 we are introduced to Charlie, the pretty female Che Fong. I guess that's one way to deflect comparisons between the two characters.

Guess who played Charlie in "You Don't See Many Pirates These Days"? Our girl Josie Over!!

- We finally learn, although it's no big surprise, that the villain's plan is to tunnel into a bank next door to the record shop. This is a plot similar to Season 4's "Didn't We Meet at a Murder?" not to mention the Sherlock Holmes' story "The Red Headed League". I can see what James McArthur meant when he said that, after Leonard Freeman's death, the series told and retold the same kind of stories.

Yep, the tunnel plot was done before (and better in that season 4 episode - the 3 complete strangers blackmailed to murder someone was a really cool plot point!) but I still enjoyed it here and it was another interesting heist/caper story. I'd give it *** stars.


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Thanks for posting your episode reviews, alpha! - ringfire211


You are welcome. My Disc 2 reviews are available here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=245814263#245814263

"Up the Rebels"

Indeed an excellent performance (from Stephen Boyd)! My favorite is the scene between him and McGarrett outside the orphanage. Two veteran actors doing what they do best! I love this exchange:

Rourke/Costigan: "I do God's work"
McGarrett: "And I do police work. So let us work together so it doesn't become the devil's work" - ringfire211


Yes, that is an excellent exchange. I also liked how McGarrett tried to test Rourke by speaking a little Latin, but Rourke was able to deflect McGarrett's suspicions by speaking Latin back to him.


"The Cop on the Cover"

And if you don't bail on us before season 12 you'll see (Moe Keale) play new Five-0 member Moe "Truck" Kealoha! - ringfire211


We'll see. I haven't done a comprehensive inventory, but the site I'm using (the same one you mentioned) seems to have the majority of Season 10 on it. They seem to have almost as many Season 11 episodes, and maybe half of Season 12. When I finish with Season 10, I will bookmark all the Season 11 episodes they have, and see if there are enough to merit another thread like this.

Watch closely from 13:23-13:36 while Danno searches the bedroom of Joe Moala (Moe Keale). You can clearly see that the room is a set with no ceiling and with spotlights mounted on the top of the set wall! - alpha128 (me)


Oh wow! Can't believe I never spotted this. It's as clear as day! - ringfire211


If it makes you feel any better I missed this, and the near collision between bird and van, the first time I watched the episodes.

Again, two veteran actors working together. I love it when McG tells her that "truth doesn't come floating in on the morning tide" and she asks him "Confucius?" and he responds brilliantly "No, McGarrett". - ringfire211


Yes, that was another great exchange. They even used that in the episode promo.

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I liked all the episodes in this season. 

... but what I didn't like was the 'temposrary office'. Not the office itself really but the fact that a few shows in ,we return to the Ilani palace office.

Then they go back to the 'temp' again. Then a few more at
Iliani and again ,the temp. office. Just a little on the annoying side.


Go for it or just be a gopher!
(MR.) happipuppi13 🐕 *arf,man!*

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I liked all the episodes in this season.

... but what I didn't like was the 'temporary office'. Not the office itself really but the fact that a few shows in, we return to the Ilani palace office.

Then they go back to the 'temp' again. Then a few more at Iliani and again, the temp. office. Just a little on the annoying side. - happipuppi13


I have two things I want to say in reply:
1.) It appears you are confusing Seasons 9 and 10. Season 9 was the season with all the office moves.
2.) You are talking to the guy who literally wrote the book on Season 9 office moves. You can read my treatise on the subject here:
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season9/offices.htm

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OoopS!  You're right. 

I went through those 2 seasons so fast ,it's easy to make that mistake. It's also
because before i started on tehse DVDs ,I'd not even seen 30 episodes total.

Still ,in both seasons 9 & 10 ,I think the
episodes are good to great ,no clunkers at all. 


Happy to report ,as of 12:25am this morning (07/08/15) ,I am finished with
the series!  After 6 months at that! Just returned season 12 to this library.



Go for it or just be a gopher!
(MR.) happipuppi13 🐕 *arf,man!*

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OoopS!  You're right.  - happipuppi13


Like I said, I wrote the book 📖 on Season 9 Office Moves. 

Still, in both seasons 9 & 10, I think the episodes are good to great, no clunkers at all. - happipuppi13


I'm glad you had such a great time watching the series. Personally, I found Season 9 like a mountain range with peaks and valleys. IMO, there were the following deep valleys (ratings on the MJQ scale from 1 to 4 stars):


199. Let Death do Us Part 1.5 Poor
203. The Bells Toll at Noon 1.5 Poor
209. To Die in Paradise 1.0 Poor
213. See How She Runs 1.0 Poor

If you're interested in learning the reasons for my low ratings, check out this list:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls003076358/

Happy to report, as of 12:25am this morning (07/08/15), I am finished with
the series! After 6 months at that! Just returned season 12 to this library. - happipuppi13


Congratulations!

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Although I'm not actually watching these episodes on disc, it's convenient to organize my posts this way. This post does include *spoilers*.

"Deep Cover"
No. in season: 9
Directed by: Steven H. Stern
Written by: Robert Janes
Original air date: December 8, 1977

This is the fifth teleplay from writer Robert Janes so far this season. Overall, I liked "Deep Cover" better than the previous two Janes scripted episodes "Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon" and "Deadly Doubles".

Some thoughts:

- The episode opens with a submarine being tracked by a U.S. Navy ship on the surface. Then, as the production credits roll, we suddenly switch to a beach.

- At 3:35, we see past and future Bond girl Maude Adams coldly and bloodlessly shoot some guy named Dominic. Later we learn this is Navy Lt. Commander Dominic Rizzo.

- Starting at 4:25, the bad guys hide Dominic's body in the trunk of his own car. They have to slam the lid twice to get it to stay closed!

- At the five minute mark, a mysterious frogman emerges from the ocean. Right before he collapses, he is told by Maude Adams, "everything is ready." Who is this guy? What is ready?

- What is it with vehicle lids/doors in this episode? At 6:43 an ambulance door almost closes on the mystery frogman's stretcher as it's being loaded!

- At 7:13 we see mystery frogman being treated by mystery doctors who apparently work for the U.S. Navy.

- Speaking of mysteries, by 7:37 I'm reminded of the "Mystery Science Theater 3000" episode of Pod People (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0776186/combined). The featured movie also suddenly cuts from one unrelated group of people to another - multiple times. To paraphrase one of the comments, "And now in Episode D we have these people playing Frisbee, 'D' for 'dumb'."

- At the fourteen minute mark, McGarrett pays another visit to the lab where a different female Asian named Dolani has apparently replaced Charlie. Boy, lots of turnover in the crime lab this season!

- At the seventeen minute mark, I finally figured out what the heck is going on in this episode. Mystery frogman was admitted to the hospital so he could remove his fake beard and take the place of Navy Commander Harner, who was at the hospital for his physical examination. And thirty seconds later it's confirmed I was right! Perhaps the creators thought since they had a Bond girl in the cast, they should add some Bond plot, in this case from the beginning of Thunderball.

- Around the twenty-one minute mark, there's no doubt that the secluded house (exterior) where Maude Adams is hiding is the same one used as a hideout in "A Cop on the Cover".

- At 22:47, we see McGarrett in his naval uniform for the first time since, IIRC, the Season 8 opener, "Murder -- Eyes Only".

- At 28:20, a Navy dentist examining "Harner" says he'll send for duplicate dental records. I have a feeling that dentist's life expectancy just dropped significantly! Sure enough, at 31:35 Danno informs McGarrett that the Navy dentist was found dead in his apartment. Can you tell I've seen the nine previous seasons of Hawaii Five-O?

- At 42:46, McGarrett says, "There's a double, Admiral" and then shortly thereafter says, "We're dealing with people who are both deadly and extraordinarily resourceful". I have to wonder if this is an in-joke from writer Robert Janes, whose previous Five-O script was titled "Deadly Doubles".

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "Deep Cover" two stars and I agree with that rating. Once you get past the confusing first act, it's not a bad episode. But, with the brainwashing of a naval officer and all the naval hardware on display, this one comes across as a low-rent "Murder -- Eyes Only". Janes' scripts for "Up the Rebels" and "The Friends of Joey Kalima" were better than this.


"Tsunami"
No. in season: 10
Directed by: Harvey S. Laidman
Written by: Don Balluck
Original air date: December 22, 1977

Unfortunately, this episode (voted best of the season by IMDb users: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls006725156/) isn't available on the streaming site I'm using. I have to skip it for now.


"East Wind -- Ill Wind"
No. in season: 11
Directed by: Reza Badiyi
Written by: Edwin Blum
Original air date: December 29, 1977

Likewise, this episode isn't available on the streaming site I'm using. I have to skip it for now.


"Tread the King's Shadow"
No. in season: 12
Directed by: Reza Badiyi
Written by: Harold Swanton
Original air date: January 5, 1978

As ringfire211 noted in another thread (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?p=14&d=245696706#245696706) this episode is "basically a love story between a haole girl and a Hawaiian boy."

Some thoughts:

- At 6:35 Debbie Cameron, the haole girl, decides to run away. She removes the keys from the ignition of her father's car and tosses them into the landscape. I have to write "landscape", because we don't actually see if it's lawn, woods, or brush. Regardless, she doesn't take the keys with her, which would be a far more effective strategy to avoid pursuit.

- At 10:32, Debbie's father, George Cameron, addresses Governor Paul Jameson as "Phil". So not only is he a bigot, he can't remember his friends' names!  Apparently somebody in the new Five-O management did minimal research, and they confused Richard Denning's one appearance as treasury agent Philip Grey (in "Twenty-Four Karat Kill") with his ongoing role as the Governor.

- At 11:32 a fantastic line from McGarrett, "I'm not going to railroad a kid just because moneybags there resents the color of his skin." I had to pause the playback so I could laugh out loud (in a good way) for a few minutes!

- Despite the major continuity error with the Governor's name, I really enjoyed the scene in the Governor's office. There was real fire in Jack Lord's performance. I don't think we've seen that much fire since the previous season's "Man in a Steel Frame".

- At 16:18, I enjoyed McGarrett putting Cameron in his place with the line, "We're all vulnerable even you." And that's why I call him, "Lord Jack"!

- As the second act begins, David and Debbie sail away in the boat of David's uncle Noah. I now recognize that Noah is played by John Marley, who memorably played Kono's relative Sam Kalakua in Five-O's first season finale, "The Big Kahuna".

- At 18:30 I noted, as did Mike Quigley, that the musical score is similar to an instrumental version of The Carpenter's "Close to You". This doesn't bode well.

- At 23:45 a gas station mechanic retrieves for Danno clothes that Debbie left behind. The mechanic's hands are smeared with grease. I don't think Debbie would appreciate him handling those!

- At 24:16 Danno finds a vital clue in Debbie's (now grease stained ) clothes, an appointment slip for a "Mrs. Jane Thompson" at the Mission Clinic in Honolulu. This must be how Debbie found out she was pregnant.

- Right after McGarrett leaves Uncle Noah's home, we cut again, at 26:37, to the "revolving door" house. This season alone this home has been the residence of Stewart Longworth, Frank Devlin, and now apparently George Cameron. The weird thing is Cameron seems to reside in a completely different house at the beginning of the episode! Is "Moneybags" Cameron so rich that he owns two palatial homes in the islands? Or this is another major continuity error like the Governor's name?

- At 33:45, we see a doctor played by none other than Kwan Hi Lim. According to the IMDb, this was his twenty-third out of a total of twenty-five Five-O episodes.

- At 45:13, Cameron's man Fletcher asks Uncle Noah, "Where's the girl?" Noah yells, "You go to hell!" When Fletcher says he's coming aboard Noah's boat, Noah threatens to "crack you one" with a boat hook! Way to go Uncle Noah! Even the much younger Fletcher is afraid to tangle with him!

- Mike Quigley calls this episode's ending terrible, but I thought it was OK. When we first see the City of Refuge and hear its story, I recognized that Cameron represented the modern-day King, but I didn't realize they would be so literal about it at the end. My only real complaint with the ending is that I was waiting for Cameron to get his comeuppance from McGarrett, and it didn't happen. McGarrett doesn't even lecture Cameron about wasting his time and taxpayer money when no crime had been committed. But I liked how David stood up to Cameron. At the end, Cameron just turns and walks away, which I admit is a bit anticlimactic.

In another thread, ringfire211 delivered the following damning assessment of this episode:

You'll come across what I consider to be the worst episode in the show's long run - "Tread the King's Shadow". I know you hate "Diary of a Gun" but let me tell you that "Diary" is like the Mona Lisa compared to the insipidness that is "Tread". Ugghh!! - ringfire211
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?p=14&d=245696706#245696706


Before I give my rating for this episode, and explain my reasons behind it, I think it would be helpful to recap my personal "Bottom 10" list (so far). This list is from a file on my computer dated 8/21/2011, and actually includes only eight episodes. I had trouble coming up with ten, even though I was including episodes I rated 1.5 stars or less.

CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER:

Season 2
1. "To Hell with Babe Ruth" (0.5 stars out of 4) - Mike Quigley calls this "an unbearably awful show" and he's right! Mark Lenard is the most unconvincing Caucasian actor playing a Japanese character since Sean Connery in You Only Live Twice! 

2. "Bored, She Hung Herself" (1.5 stars out of 4) - I have seen this infamous banned episode, even though it was omitted from the Season 2 DVD release. The "official" story behind its suppression is someone killed themselves by imitating the hanging technique within. However, had this actually been a quality episode, I think CBS/Paramount would have released it with a DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME disclaimer. Having seen this embarrassment however, I am sure that CBS/Paramount will be quite content to leave it locked in the vault forever.

Season 7
3. "A Study in Rage" (1.5 stars out of 4) - This episode could have been worthy of two, maybe even two and a half stars. The concept of a psychiatrist painting his patient's disturbed mental state was actually interesting, and the murder by towel was pretty clever. However three things dragged my rating down to a 1.5 stars: a.) a bad makeup job on Richard Hatch, b.) the skeletal Gretchen Corbett trying to look sexy in a bikini, but just revealing how badly she needs to eat something, and c.) the downright laughable image of McGarrett and Danno busting into Hatch's dream house wearing gas masks.

4. "Diary of a Gun" (0.5 stars out of 4) - Jeffman61 and I are in complete agreement that this is the worst Five-O episode, not just of Season 7, but of Seasons 1-9. I'm actually proud to have given it the nickname "Diary of the Dumb" as it is a textbook example of an "idiot plot". See my user review for more details: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0598039/usercomments

Season 9
5. "Let Death Do Us Part" (1.5 stars out of 4) - Bud Freeman previously wrote classics such as "How to Steal a Masterpiece" and "Honor is an Unmarked Grave", but this is the nadir of his Five-O career. "Let Death Do Us Part" is both convoluted and boring. It seems like I waited forever for an explanation, and when it came, I didn't care.

6. "The Bell Tolls at Noon" (1.5 stars out of 4) - No doubt my most controversial selection, but I felt this episode was severely overrated. The biggest reason I disliked it is the ending. "The Bells Toll at Noon" telegraphs to the audience that Johnny Kling is going to recreate the ending of "White Heat", blowing himself and druglord Paul Thayler sky high. What did we get instead? An anticlimactic ending where the druglord (an acrophobic crybaby!) is unharmed, the vigilante killer turns himself in, and then... breaks into a song and dance routine! That was the final insult - the point where I reached the "You have GOT to be kidding me!" reaction induced by some of the other episodes on this list.

7. "To Die in Paradise" (1 star out of 4) - I would have given this episode one and a half stars, maybe even two stars, but two things dragged my rating down to a meager one star: a.) a god-awful song and b.) The moronic Bible Jim.

8. "See How She Runs" (1 star out of 4) This incredibly boring episode gets my vote for the worst of Season 9. They should have called this one "See How She Sits/Stands Around"! This is the only Five-O episode I was incapable of watching in one sitting. See my user review for more details: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0598136/usercomments

From my perspective, "Tread the King's Shadow" is not the worst Five-O episode of all time. I wouldn't even include it in the Top Ten. To me, this was just another typical Season 10 episode.

For example, you've got the retreaded plotlines from previous Five-O episodes. Here's the recipe for a "Tread the King's Shadow":
Start with four parts "The Waterfront Steal" (haole girl, her loving a Hawaiian boy, her rich father doesn't approve, and they go on the run together)
Add two parts "The Big Kahuna" (John Marley and the Hawaiian folklore)
Add two parts "Engaged to be Buried" (young lovers whose parents don't approve, get married anyway)
Add one part "To Die in Paradise" (hiding out in a rural setting on another island)

Mr. Mike gave this episode 1.5 stars (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#226) but noted, "This episode would get a much higher rating if the music was better!" The music didn't bother me as much, so I give "Tread the King's Shadow" two stars out of four on the MJQ scale. This is the first time I've broken ranks with Mike Quigley this season, and I'm actually assigning a higher rating than he did.

I enjoyed this episode more than some other two star episodes like, "Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon" and "Deadly Doubles". And compared to my Bottom 10 list episodes, at no time was I bored or wanted to shout "You have GOT to be kidding me!" at the screen.

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I'm a little late &
I apologize but ...Thanks for the Congratualtions.  

I think you can apprecaie this :

In the ep. Use a Gun go To ****" ,the movie 'God's Little Acre' is
mentioend. Those that are/were big fans of Jack Lord's knwo ,that was one of his movies (1958)

Here's a great co-incidence.  Only days after finishing the show ,
I found the movie on DVD here at the library!  Just checked it out.



I've only seen Jack elsewhere on his GUNSMOKE guest appearance (in 2 roles).


AHve a good week!  Bye now.




Go for it or just be a gopher!
(MR.) happipuppi13 🐕 *arf,man!*

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I'm a little late & I apologize but ...Thanks for the Congratulations. - happipuppi13


You're welcome.

I think you can appreciate this :

In the ep. Use a Gun go To ****", the movie 'God's Little Acre' is mentioned. Those that are/were big fans of Jack Lord's know, that was one of his movies (1958).

Here's a great co-incidence. Only days after finishing the show, I found the movie on DVD here at the library! Just checked it out.

I've only seen Jack elsewhere on his GUNSMOKE guest appearance (in 2 roles). - happipuppi13


I've haven't any of the episodes or movies you mentioned. However, I own the very first James Bond film, Dr. No on DVD. Sean Connery is famous for being the first Bond, but the first actor to play CIA agent Felix Leiter was none other than Jack Lord:
http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Felix_Leiter_%28Jack_Lord%29

Have a good week! Bye now. - happipuppi13


Thanks! You too!

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"Deep Cover"

- At the fourteen minute mark, McGarrett pays another visit to the lab where a different female Asian named Dolani has apparently replaced Charlie. Boy, lots of turnover in the crime lab this season!

I have no idea why she's credited as Dolani in the end credits when McGarrett clearly calls her Iolani (as in the Palace).

- At the seventeen minute mark, I finally figured out what the heck is going on in this episode. Mystery frogman was admitted to the hospital so he could remove his fake beard and take the place of Navy Commander Harner, who was at the hospital for his physical examination. And thirty seconds later it's confirmed I was right! Perhaps the creators thought since they had a Bond girl in the cast, they should add some Bond plot, in this case from the beginning of Thunderball.

You know, I never really thought of that but you're right - it does resemble the plot from THUNDERBALL. In fact I really like that early plot in THUNDERBALL at the Shrublands Health Clinic - lots of good espionage and cloak-and-dagger stuff happening there. Maybe that's why I really like this episode! And not only does this episode feature a Bond girl (the babely Swedish Maud Adams) but later this season we actually get a THUNDERBALL Bond girl - the Italiana beauty Luciana Paluzzi (who played the voluptuous SPECTRE femme fatale Fiona Volpe in the film).

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "Deep Cover" two stars and I agree with that rating. Once you get past the confusing first act, it's not a bad episode. But, with the brainwashing of a naval officer and all the naval hardware on display, this one comes across as a low-rent "Murder -- Eyes Only". Janes' scripts for "Up the Rebels" and "The Friends of Joey Kalima" were better than this.

I would easily give this one *** stars. In fact I think I like it even more than "Up the Rebels" which means this is my favorite episode thus far in season 10 (at least until the next episode). I can see how this one might come across as a "low-rent" version of "Murder -- Eyes Only" (the latter felt like a feature film and had higher production values and was more detail-oriented) but honestly I think I prefer this episode. It doesn't seem as padded or stretched out as "Murder" and it's just shorter and quicker and more to the point. I think it has higher rewatchability value.


"Tsunami"

Unfortunately, this episode (voted best of the season by IMDb users: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls006725156/) isn't available on the streaming site I'm using. I have to skip it for now.

Sorry that you have to miss this one. It's my favorite season 10 episode and the only one from this season that I would give ***1/2 stars to. Note that I don't give any season 10 episode a perfect **** (but I will to a season 11 episode).


"Tread the King's Shadow"

- At 10:32, Debbie's father, George Cameron, addresses Governor Paul Jameson as "Phil". So not only is he a bigot, he can't remember his friends' names! Apparently somebody in the new Five-O management did minimal research, and they confused Richard Denning's one appearance as treasury agent Philip Grey (in "Twenty-Four Karat Kill") with his ongoing role as the Governor.

I don't recall exactly where I saw this but I think it was some type of book/encyclopedia on TV shows a long time ago where Richard Denning was in fact credited as Governor Philip Grey. Even then I remembered it as interesting because as far as I was concerned the governor didn't have a name. He was just Governor!  Like Columbo. Then when I came across this episode and another episode later this season ("The Big Aloha" I believe) I noticed that the governor all of a sudden got a name for himself and guess what? It was indeed Philip!  It was much later that I discovered that the governor also went by the name of Paul Jameson. Sheesh! Does he have some sort of alter ego thing going?

- Despite the major continuity error with the Governor's name, I really enjoyed the scene in the Governor's office. There was real fire in Jack Lord's performance. I don't think we've seen that much fire since the previous season's "Man in a Steel Frame".

I agree that his scenes with the Governor have been really good this season! Tempers between Steve and the Gov are really flaring. And just like in "The Cop on the Cover" here again Governor Paul/Phil is grousing about "those Irish". 

- Right after McGarrett leaves Uncle Noah's home, we cut again, at 26:37, to the "revolving door" house.

Next time I'm in Hawaii I will not leave the islands until I find this house! That's my mission - to boldly go and track down the house (one of many, apparently) owned by "Moneybags" Cameron!

I enjoyed this episode more than some other two star episodes like, "Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon" and "Deadly Doubles". And compared to my Bottom 10 list episodes, at no time was I bored or wanted to shout "You have GOT to be kidding me!" at the screen.

 What this essentially means is that you actually prefer this episode to a classic like "The Bells Toll at Noon". Now let me just wait a second until this sinks in.  Oh my! This is serious. It's not sinking in.  Well, I shall refrain from blowing my top the way Lord Jack did at "Moneybags" Cameron or Governor Paul/Phil and try my darndest to respect your opinion (but oh boy is it hard ). Ultimately for me the greatest sin of this episode, among many other sins, is that there is no crime whatsoever committed.

1. NO CRIME OF THE WEEK
2. Love story that I don't give a hoot and/or holler about
3. Insipid performances by the 2 "leads"
4. Booooooooring story (this is the episode that I would have a hard time to watch in one sitting)
5. Has the show really fallen so off the wagon that we have to watch 2 angsty teenagers decide if they should have an abortion while McG is desperately flying around the islands like he's trying to avert WWIII?

I'm sure there's more but that's just off the top of my head. When I said "Diary of a Gun" is like the Mona Lisa in comparison I meant every word of it. Of course it helps that I actually like that episode. I never had a problem with it. In fact that exact episode was remade again in season 12's "Use a Gun, Go to Hell" and I liked that one too. I'll take an "idiot plot" any day over no plot at all. At least there were crimes committed in those episode. McG desperately seeking to stop the deadly carnage left by the gun was engaging. Here it's complete Snoresville.  Ugghh!! A turkey if ever there was one. NO STARS!

Still, it's interesting to see how different things affect people differently. Thanks, alpha. Now where is my medication? 

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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"Tsunami"

Sorry that you have to miss this one. It's my favorite season 10 episode and the only one from this season that I would give ***1/2 stars to. Note that I don't give any season 10 episode a perfect **** (but I will to a season 11 episode). - ringfire211


I'm sorry I missed it too. The good news is I did a comprehensive inventory of the last half of Season 10, and only two episodes, "A Short Walk on the Longshore" and "Invitation to Murder" are missing. So the streaming site has 75% of Season 10 on it (18 out of 24 episodes).


"Tread the King's Shadow"

I enjoyed this episode more than some other two star episodes like, "Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon" and "Deadly Doubles". And compared to my Bottom 10 list episodes, at no time was I bored or wanted to shout "You have GOT to be kidding me!" at the screen. - alpha128 (me)


 What this essentially means is that you actually prefer this episode to a classic like "The Bells Toll at Noon". Now let me just wait a second until this sinks in.  Oh my! This is serious. It's not sinking in.  Well, I shall refrain from blowing my top the way Lord Jack did at "Moneybags" Cameron or Governor Paul/Phil and try my darndest to respect your opinion (but oh boy is it hard ). - ringfire211


Yes, it's true. I prefer "Tread the King's Shadow" to the, IMO, vastly overrated "The Bells Toll at Noon". As I wrote in the "Thoughts on Season 9" thread:
"The Bells Toll at Noon" leads us to expect another explosive conclusion like "Death with Father" and then fails to deliver. - alpha128 (me)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?d=222001627#222001627


And I see you called McGarrett "Lord Jack". I'm so used to calling him that, I didn't notice it at first! 

Ultimately for me the greatest sin of this episode, among many other sins, is that there is no crime whatsoever committed. - ringfire211


I noticed that and wrote:
My only real complaint with the ending is that I was waiting for Cameron to get his comeuppance from McGarrett, and it didn't happen. McGarrett doesn't even lecture Cameron about wasting his time and taxpayer money when no crime had been committed. - alpha128 (me)


I think perhaps this episode was an early symptom of this "disease":
Van Gordon Sauter took over as chief censor for CBS in 1977. Up to that point, you could watch Five-O and, even if the plots were lame, there was a good shootout at the end. Sauter, AKA The Velvet Shiv, cut down the action quotient to next to nothing -- there was one episode where McGarrett had to trace a DOG brought in in violation of quarantine regulations!
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/jumptheshark.htm


If that's the case here, I think the producers actually came up with a pretty creative way around this limitation. And let us not forget Five-O is:
a special investigative unit of the Hawaii State Government http://www.bygonetv.com/shows/hawaii_five_o/index.htm

And they still investigated.

1. NO CRIME OF THE WEEK
2. Love story that I don't give a hoot and/or holler about
3. Insipid performances by the 2 "leads"
4. Booooooooring story (this is the episode that I would have a hard time to watch in one sitting)
5. Has the show really fallen so off the wagon that we have to watch 2 angsty teenagers decide if they should have an abortion while McG is desperately flying around the islands like he's trying to avert WWIII? - ringfire211


1. GREAT performance by Jack Lord
2. GREAT performance by John Marley
3. GREAT performance by James B. Sikking as "Moneybags"
4. Minimal padding compared to other Season 10 episodes - I counted a mere seven minutes of padding in this one, compared to seventeen minutes in "Deadly Doubles"
5. Debbie and David considering an abortion is the first bit of edgy material since Season 9's "Requiem for a Saddle Bronc Rider"

Sure it's no "Hookman", but it's no "Diary of the Dumb" either.

Still, it's interesting to see how different things affect people differently. - ringfire211


Yes indeed! 

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The good news is I did a comprehensive inventory of the last half of Season 10, and only two episodes, "A Short Walk on the Longshore" and "Invitation to Murder" are missing. So the streaming site has 75% of Season 10 on it (18 out of 24 episodes).

"Invitation to Murder" is a pretty good whodunit (in the old Agatha Christie tradition) but you're not missing much with "A Short Walk on the Longshore". Lord Jack goes undercover sporting a wig and mustache and looking like John Beck (from "Nightmare in Blue") in a pretty dull episode about labor union corruption. If you're expecting the kind of "undercover" performance here from Lord Jack as we witnessed in "The Ways of Love" or "Six Kilos" then forget about it - ain't gonna find it here, bruddah! Just imagine McGarrett acting exactly like himself while undercover as a criminal and that's what we got here.


"Tread the King's Shadow"

Yes, it's true. I prefer "Tread the King's Shadow" to the, IMO, vastly overrated "The Bells Toll at Noon". As I wrote in the "Thoughts on Season 9" thread:

"The Bells Toll at Noon" leads us to expect another explosive conclusion like "Death with Father" and then fails to deliver. - alpha128 (me)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?d=222001627#222001627

I understand that you didn't get the boom at the end but are you willing to discount everything that came before? Rich Little's edgy performance, the creepy killings mimicking old movies (even if you aren't a fan of film noir this should get you), the way the shots are framed, the unsettling score by Morton Stevens, the way McGarrett begins to unravel the mystery, the lovely Pauly Gardener - it's all there in spades!!! PLUS we actually get a CRIME OF THE WEEK! Yay!!!! Hey, I wouldn't have minded a boom at the end but that's not going to stop me from recognizing a truly stellar episode. In comparison "Tread" isn't even in the same universe as the former.

I think perhaps this episode was an early symptom of this "disease":

Van Gordon Sauter took over as chief censor for CBS in 1977. Up to that point, you could watch Five-O and, even if the plots were lame, there was a good shootout at the end. Sauter, AKA The Velvet Shiv, cut down the action quotient to next to nothing -- there was one episode where McGarrett had to trace a DOG brought in in violation of quarantine regulations!
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/jumptheshark.htm

If that's the case here, I think the producers actually came up with a pretty creative way around this limitation.

By coming up with an episode where no crime was committed? I don't think I follow. Heck, I could have written a more engaging non-crime story myself than what we saw in that episode.

1. GREAT performance by Jack Lord
2. GREAT performance by John Marley
3. GREAT performance by James B. Sikking as "Moneybags"
4. Minimal padding compared to other Season 10 episodes - I counted a mere seven minutes of padding in this one, compared to seventeen minutes in "Deadly Doubles"
5. Debbie and David considering an abortion is the first bit of edgy material since Season 9's "Requiem for a Saddle Bronc Rider"

1. Jack was good as always but I think you're giving him too much praise by calling him GREAT here. He simply didn't have much to work with. The brief scene with the Governor is not enough for me to call it a GREAT performance.
2. John Marley was average at best here. Nothing stood out for me about him. He was much better in "The Big Kahuna" and "The Second Shot" where he was actually involved in an interesting plot. Or plot, period.
3. James Sikking gave a GREAT performance? Ha! See #2.
4. I'll take every one of those padded minutes in "Deadly Doubles" over pad city that is the entire episode here. Pad city = story that I don't care about in the slightest.
5. It didn't even feel like it belonged on this show. It felt like I was watching ONE LIFE TO LIVE or some daytime soap. Yuck!!

Sure it's no "Hookman", but it's no "Diary of the Dumb" either.

Well of course it's no "Diary". "Diary" is actually a good episode. 

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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"Tread the King's Shadow"

I understand that you didn't get the boom at the end but are you willing to discount everything that came before? Rich Little's edgy performance, the creepy killings mimicking old movies (even if you aren't a fan of film noir this should get you), the way the shots are framed, the unsettling score by Morton Stevens, the way McGarrett begins to unravel the mystery, the lovely Pauly Gardener - it's all there in spades!!! PLUS we actually get a CRIME OF THE WEEK! Yay!!!! Hey, I wouldn't have minded a boom at the end but that's not going to stop me from recognizing a truly stellar episode. In comparison "Tread" isn't even in the same universe as the former. - ringfire211


Since you made it possible, let's review my comments on "The Bells Toll at Noon":

1.) I don't think this episode has aged well. I'm sure it was very hip and trendy to put Rich Little in your show in 1976/77. Now it just dates the episode. Likewise, the 30's and early 40's Cagney movies that inspired "Johnny Kling" were old then - they are ancient now.

2.) Paul Thayler (Don Knight) was supposed to be the top man in the drug cartel. You would expect him to be reasonably tough. I did not expect him to be a sniveling acrophobic crybaby.

3.) The biggest reason I disliked this episode is the ending. "The Bells Toll at Noon" telegraphs to the audience that Kling is going to recreate the ending of "White Heat", blowing himself and Thayler sky high.

Do you know what my favorite TV show of all time is? Babylon 5. There are several reasons why, but one of them is that, as Creator/Executive Producer/Writer J. Michael Straczynski says:

I subscribe to Anton Chekov's First Rule of Playwriting: "If there's a gun on the wall in act one, scene one, you must fire the gun by act three, scene two. If you fire a gun in act three, scene two, you must see the gun on the wall in act one, scene one."

http://midwinter.com/lurk/guide/022.html


I felt "The Bells Toll at Noon" didn't play fair with the audience. I was told to expect big boom. I wanted big boom. I didn't get big boom. I felt cheated.

What did we get instead? An anticlimactic ending where the acrophobic crybaby druglord is unharmed, the vigilante killer turns himself in, and then... breaks into a song and dance routine! That was the final insult - the point where I reached the "You have GOT to be kidding me!" reaction induced by previous stinkers including "To Hell to Babe Ruth" and "Diary of a Gun". - alpha128 (me)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?p=3&d=217912443#217912443



I think perhaps this episode was due to network censor Van Gordon Sauter. If that's the case here, I think the producers actually came up with a pretty creative way around this limitation. - alpha128 (me)


By coming up with an episode where no crime was committed? I don't think I follow. - ringfire211


What I meant is the episode ends up being a race between McGarrett and "Money Bags" Cameron to see who will get to the kids first. We still get an investigation, we still get chases, but the episode is constructed in such a way that there is no violence.

1. GREAT performance by Jack Lord
2. GREAT performance by John Marley
3. GREAT performance by James B. Sikking as "Moneybags"
4. Minimal padding compared to other Season 10 episodes - I counted a mere seven minutes of padding in this one, compared to seventeen minutes in "Deadly Doubles"
5. Debbie and David considering an abortion is the first bit of edgy material since Season 9's "Requiem for a Saddle Bronc Rider" - alpha128 (me)


1. Jack was good as always but I think you're giving him too much praise by calling him GREAT here. He simply he didn't have much to work with. The brief scene with the Governor is not enough for me to call it a GREAT performance.
2. John Marley was average at best here. Nothing stood out for me about him. He was much better in "The Big Kahuna" and "The Second Shot" where he was actually involved in an interesting plot. Or plot, period.
3. James Sikking gave a GREAT performance? Ha! See #2.
4. I'll take every one of those padded minutes in "Deadly Doubles" over pad city that is the entire episode here. Pad city = story that I don't care about in the slightest.
5. It didn't even feel like it belonged on this show. It felt like I was watching ONE LIFE TO LIVE or some daytime soap. Yuck!! - ringfire211


1. As I wrote earlier, when McGarrett said, "I'm not going to railroad a kid just because moneybags there resents the color of his skin," I had to pause the playback. I literally laughed continuously for at least two minutes.
2. I loved when Uncle Noah yelled "You go to hell!" at Cameron's man Fletcher and threatened to "crack you one" with a boat hook! That stood out for me!
3. As I said, I was waiting for "Moneybags" to get his comeuppance. That's the mark of a good villain.
4. Not caring for a story doesn't make that story padded. Padding is a function of how long it takes for the plot to advance.
5. Kwan Hi Lim does not do soap operas! 


Sure it's no "Hookman", but it's no "Diary of the Dumb" either. - alpha128 (me)


Well of course it's no "Diary". "Diary" is actually a good episode.  - ringfire211


Good episodes do not make me yell "You have GOT to be kidding me!" at the TV. I'll rephrase:

Sure it's no "Hookman", but it's no "To Hell to Babe Ruth" either.

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Since you made it possible, let's review my comments on "The Bells Toll at Noon":

1.) I don't think this episode has aged well. I'm sure it was very hip and trendy to put Rich Little in your show in 1976/77. Now it just dates the episode. Likewise, the 30's and early 40's Cagney movies that inspired "Johnny Kling" were old then - they are ancient now.

2.) Paul Thayler (Don Knight) was supposed to be the top man in the drug cartel. You would expect him to be reasonably tough. I did not expect him to be a sniveling acrophobic crybaby.

3.) The biggest reason I disliked this episode is the ending. "The Bells Toll at Noon" telegraphs to the audience that Kling is going to recreate the ending of "White Heat", blowing himself and Thayler sky high.
I felt "The Bells Toll at Noon" didn't play fair with the audience. I was told to expect big boom. I wanted big boom. I didn't get big boom. I felt cheated.

What did we get instead? An anticlimactic ending where the acrophobic crybaby druglord is unharmed, the vigilante killer turns himself in, and then... breaks into a song and dance routine! That was the final insult - the point where I reached the "You have GOT to be kidding me!" reaction induced by previous stinkers including "To Hell to Babe Ruth" and "Diary of a Gun". - alpha128 (me)

1. This may be a matter of personal preference (I mean I wouldn't call myself a huge noir film fan either) but I couldn't deny that the whole thing had a great style to it as it was presented on screen. It was supposed to have an old-fashioned retro look and feel to it. I totally dug it! Sorry it didn't work for you.

2. This seems like a pretty nit-picky thing on your part. First of all, we simply don't know much about Thayler to just assume that he's some real tough dude. Don Knight's portrayals of various characters on this show always had a certain fidgety feel to them. I never got a feeling of stone-cold or hard-as-nails from any of the characters he ever played. So his portrayal here is not off the mark for me. Secondly, he's being held at gunpoint by a babbling maniac - of course he's freaking out!

3. I honestly don't see why this would be such a big deal for you in this particular episode. If this really bothers you here then it seems like it should bother you regarding a whole lot of FIVE-0 episodes. Consider the typical FIVE-0 episode: killer kills victim #1 in the first act, killer kills victim #2 in the second act, killer kills victim #3 in the third act. So what should happen in the fourth act? That's right - killer should kill victim #4. But that doesn't happen because in the fourth act McG arrives at the scene in the last second and saves victim #4 from being killed. Do you feel cheated? I could make the same argument that if we see a murder being committed in each of the preceding acts then we should get one in the 4th act as well, otherwise the story doesn't play fair with the audience. Besides, I'm not sure I subscribe to Chekov's rule - if everything went down by the numbers then there would never be any surprises or plot twists (if everything was telephoned ahead). I like that we get a plot twist here. You think it's going to be an ending like in "Death With Father" but you get something different. Personally I like that. I don't want my episodes to always be predictable.

As for the song-and-dance routine at the end we'll just have to disagree on that one because it totally creeped me out and McG and Danno's expressions are priceless! It's one of my all-time favorite FIVE-0 endings!


5. Kwan Hi Lim does not do soap operas! 

Well, he did when he signed on for this one!

Sure it's no "Hookman", but it's no "To Hell to Babe Ruth" either

Of course it's no "Babe". "Babe" is clearly the better episode. That's saying something considering that "Babe" is lousy. Heck, I'm certain that "Bored, She Hung Herself" is an infinitely better episode (if I could ever see it in a remastered, or at least watchable, form). You'll recall that a crime WAS committed in that episode. 

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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"The Bells Toll at Noon"

2.) Paul Thayler (Don Knight) was supposed to be the top man in the drug cartel. You would expect him to be reasonably tough. I did not expect him to be a sniveling acrophobic crybaby. - alpha128 (me)


2. This seems like a pretty nit-picky thing on your part. First of all, we simply don't know much about Thayler to just assume that he's some real tough dude. Don Knight's portrayals of various characters on this show always had a certain fidgety feel to them. I never got a feeling of stone-cold or hard-as-nails from any of the characters he ever played. So his portrayal here is not off the mark for me. - ringfire211


I don't think it's nit-picky to expect toughness from the leader of a drug cartel. You don't rise to that position by being a pushover. Furthermore, Jeffman61 agreed with me, and wrote the following in response to my original Season 9 post:

Comparing Knight's "Thayer" to "Dylan Heyward" in Part II of the Vashon trilogy was like night and day. There's no way that Johnny Kling would have been able to kidnap Dylan Heyward; later forcing him to climb a tall oil tank and to his probable death. Heyward would have wasted Kling like a persistent fly that buzzes around you, that is until the millisecond that you crush it to a lifeless form. You are 100% correct, alpha. Thayer did not exactly portray a character who was a powerful and ruthless criminal drug lord - an individual who if you chose to mess with the result might lead towards a very unpleasant death for you. Quite the opposite. - Jeffman61

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?d=217912493#217912493


3.) The biggest reason I disliked this episode is the ending. I felt "The Bells Toll at Noon" didn't play fair with the audience. I was told to expect big boom. I wanted big boom. I didn't get big boom. I felt cheated. - alpha128 (me)


3. I honestly don't see why this would be such a big deal for you in this particular episode. If this really bothers you here then it seems like it should bother you regarding a whole lot of FIVE-0 episodes. I like that we get a plot twist here. You think it's going to be an ending like in "Death With Father" but you get something different. Personally I like that. I don't want my episodes to always be predictable. - ringfire211


Going back to another of my Season 9 posts on this episode:
I'm not saying that the creators have to play by the rules all the time. But if you're going to lead us down a road and then give us a twist ending, that twist should be a lot better than what we were expecting. An anticlimactic conclusion with a song and dance coda was not!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?p=4&d=218490629#218490629


As for the song-and-dance routine at the end we'll just have to disagree on that one because it totally creeped me out and McG and Danno's expressions are priceless! It's one of my all-time favorite FIVE-0 endings! - ringfire211


Yes, we will have to agree to disagree on this particular point. 

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I don't think it's nit-picky to expect toughness from the leader of a drug cartel. You don't rise to that position by being a pushover. Furthermore, Jeffman61 agreed with me, and wrote the following in response to my original Season 9 post:

Comparing Knight's "Thayer" to "Dylan Heyward" in Part II of the Vashon trilogy was like night and day. There's no way that Johnny Kling would have been able to kidnap Dylan Heyward; later forcing him to climb a tall oil tank and to his probable death. Heyward would have wasted Kling like a persistent fly that buzzes around you

Ah, but see, I completely disagree with Jeffman on this point. Heyward put up a tough front (though maybe not too tough since Honore Vashon quickly put him in his place when he threatened Vashon) and may have been a world class assassin but the moment McG kicked down the door (after Heyward thought he had just killed McG) he completely freaked out and panicked, immediately surrendering. You'd think a tough limey like him would have gone for his gun or exploded at McG with his fists. Instead he completely turns to jelly. So much for tough Mr. Heyward.

Even his Jeffrey Hobbs character in season 6's "Flash of Color, Flash of Death" is a fidgety and panicky individual, despite being a pretty ruthless and vengeful dude when it comes to those "bloody opals" of his that he's sweated over. There's just something about the way Don Knight plays those characters - he can be ruthless and mean one second and then a babbling maniac the next. He has a bit of that "crazy man" thing going. So his mood changes aren't something unexpected for me - that's why it works in "The Bells Toll at Noon".

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This is my next post in the "Thoughts on Season 10" thread, and it does include *spoilers*. Although I'm not actually watching these episodes on disc, it's convenient to organize my posts this way.

You can read my comments on Disc 1 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299

You can read my comments on Disc 2 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=245814263#245814263

You can read my comments on Disc 3 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?p=2&d=246026403#246026403


"The Big Aloha"
No. in season: 13
Directed by: Marc Daniels
Written by: Gerry Day
Original air date: January 12, 1978

This episode is a whodunit about the murder of a Dr. Gideon Webb, a legendary local surgeon who has been practicing medicine for fifty years. But Webb's competency has recently come in question after a surgery he performed allegedly resulted in the death of the patient. A colleague of Webb's, Dr. John Palahana, has been campaigning for Webb to put down his scalpel and take on an advisory role. A hospital board meeting is scheduled to review the charges against Dr. Webb, but before they can meet, Webb's body is discovered in the surf while a party in his honor was being held nearby.

Some thoughts and observations:

- At 1:42, Dr. John's speeding car comes to a sudden stop on a very dusty road. *cough* *cough*

- At 11:50, we see for the first time this season long-time Five-O alum Yankee Chang. Yankee Chang started his Five-O career as the tour bus driver in the pilot episode. His previous appearance was as Po Ling in last season's "Nine Dragons". According to the IMDb, he appeared in a total of seventeen Five-O episodes.

- At 13:17, we see an increasingly rare sight, the entire Five-O team assembled in McGarrett's office for a meeting. Strangely, there is an uncredited stenographer named "Ronnie" on McGarrett's right taking notes. After being largely absent for the last several episodes, Chin Ho is given minimal screen time here. He's the first to leave the meeting and his entire dialogue consists of, "On my way."

- At 14:15, we get a good look at the "Kincaid Ranch Hospital" where the late Dr. Webb worked. It looks like a rather nondescript institution, considering Dr. Webb's esteemed reputation.

- At 18:34, we finally get the first "Show the Wave" (act break). That seemed like an rather long first act.

- Then at 25:46, we get the second "Show the Wave" (act break). That was an unusually short second act - barely over seven minutes long!

- After the break, at 25:54, the locale changes to Hong Kong. I'm not sure, but this may be footage originally shot for "Nine Dragons". Chin gets a little more screen time here, during a call back to McGarrett.

- There's a nice moment for Duke at 28:45 where he figures out that a passbook of favors Dr. Webb maintained should be checked for the initials of hospital board members. McGarrett says approvingly, "Score one for you, Duke!"

- From 43:59 to 44:50 there is a nice three-way phone conversation between McGarrett, Danno, and Chin Ho. So in the final analysis, Kam Fong got a nice part in this episode after all!

I've mentioned before that many tenth season episodes recycle plots from previous, and usually better, Five-O shows. This episode gives us a serving of "Nine Dragons", with a heaping helping of Season Eight's "Honor is an Unmarked Grave". The plot elements shared with the latter include:

An illegitimate child is conceived between two young people, one rich and white, the other one poor and non-white. Furthermore, the child's true identity is kept secret. In "Unmarked Grave", the father is rich white Brian Henderson and the mother is the Maru, the underage Asian daughter of a family servant. In "Big Aloha" the races/classes of the young parents are reversed, and the sex is consensual.
A rich older widow figures prominently in both episodes. In "Unmarked Grave" the widow is Agatha Henderson, while in "Big Aloha" it is Constance Kincaid.
In addition, both scripts are, in Mike Quigley's words, "structured in such a way that you don't know what is really going on until the end, when several plot issues are finally revealed and summed up." (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log8.htm#180)

Speaking of Mike Quigley, he is quite harsh on this episode, giving it 1.5 stars out of 4. He says it has "too many red herrings" and a "majorly disappointing" ending (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#227).

But once again I'm going to break ranks with Mr. Mike, this time more significantly. I found this episode to be rather good. I attributed the plethora of red herrings to a successful attempt to construct another episode like "Honor is an Unmarked Grave". I liked that I was kept guessing until the end. So I'm giving this episode 2.5 stars out of 4 on the MJQ scale. That would place it about on par with the likewise unoriginal but competent "The Friends of Joey Kalima". For the record, I gave "Honor is an Unmarked Grave" a perfect 4 out 4 rating.


"A Short Walk on the Longshore"
No. in season: 14
Directed by: Don Weis
Written by: Richard DeLong Adams
Original air date: February 2, 1978

This episode isn't available on the streaming site I'm using. I have to skip it for now.


"The Silk Trap"
No. in season: 15
Directed by: Dennis Donnelly
Written by: Robert Janes
Original air date: February 9, 1978

This episode is set in and around "The Miss Pacific Islands Beauty Pageant", where Congressman John Richard Carr (David Birney) is one of the judges.

Some thoughts and observations:

- At 1:45, we see that the host of the beauty pageant is none other than long-time Five-O alum Doug Mossman. According to the IMDb, Mossman appeared in a total of 27 Five-O episodes. Most notably, Mossman appeared in Season 7 thirteen times as Frank Kamana, the unofficial replacement of Ben Kokua (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season7.pdf).

- The twelve finalists and the colors of their swimsuits are:
1. South Korea (purple)
2. Hawaii (black)
3. Malaysia (black)
4. Australia (purple)
5. Philippines (black)
6. Taiwan (red)
7. Singapore (red)
8. Cambodia (purple)
9. New Zealand (red)
10. Thailand (black)
11. Tahiti (red)
12. Japan (purple)

For the record, I was rooting for Miss South Korea.

I noticed a couple of interesting things:
This pageant has a very loose definition of "Pacific islands". South Korea has islands, but it's mostly a peninsula. The same is true for Cambodia and Thailand. Malaysia is half peninsula and half island.
The sash of "Miss Philipines" (sic) is misspelled. It should of course be Philippines.

- At 5:12, we see Miss Malaysia, Jane Kuan, employing the old "drugs/poison hidden in the jewelry trick". A few moments later, we see the old cabinet de voyeur trick like in From Russia with Love.

- At the seven minute mark, wow! I initially thought they would try to blackmail Congressman Carr for adultery. I never suspected they would try to frame him for murder!

- At 10:36 we see another familiar face, Soon-Teck Oh (AKA Soon-Tek Oh and Soon-Taik Oh), who ultimately appeared in eight Five-O episodes. I think his most memorable previous appearances were as the serial killer in "Wednesday, Ladies Free", and as Tom Wong in "The Jinn Who Clears the Way". The latter is one of my all-time favorite episodes (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls005352325/).

- At 13:28, Danno interviews a chaperone played by yet another familiar face, Jo Pruden, who most recently played Mrs. Longworth in "The Cop on the Cover".

- At about 17:15, we see that the beauty pageant is continuing unaffected by the loss of Miss Malaysia. We also learn that the fictional talent portion of the beauty contest sucks as bad as the real thing.

- At the twenty minute mark, we see that the part of Jonathan Kaye has been recast yet again, with Lyle Bettger taking over the role. Bettger's performance is nothing great, but at least he's better than Miss Australia on the guitar!

- At 38:37 we learn that Congressman Carr's wife has been kidnapped by the same two thugs who killed Miss Malaysia. That was an effective act break!

Mike Quigley gives "The Silk Trap" 2.5 stars out of 4 (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#229). Although I admit this episode has more visual interest than usual, I think he's being too generous.

This is the sixth teleplay from writer Robert Janes so far this season, and I'd place "The Silk Trap" about on par with "Deep Cover". In other words, it's better than "Shake Hands with the Man on the Moon" and "Deadly Doubles", but still falls short of the standard set by "Up the Rebels" and "The Friends of Joey Kalima".

For example, I thought Andrea King (the boss of the beauty contest) being part of the blackmail plot was both contrived and unnecessary. Why was she involved, anyway? What did she hope to get out it? Money? Her motivation is never explained.

Furthermore, King's contribution to the plot was minimal. So she called the chaperone away to type some letters, big deal. Are we meant to believe that one chaperone was otherwise capable of watching twelve different contestants 24 hours a day? I don't think so, because one of the contestants told Danno that they're all grown women and could pretty much sneak out at will. Therefore, King's biggest "contribution" to the criminal enterprise was to call the thugs holding the Congressman's wife, thus tipping off McGarrett to the location of their hideout. In the final analysis, I give "The Silk Trap" only two stars.


"Head to Head"
No. in season: 16
Directed by: Jack Whitman
Written by: Leonard B. Kaufman
Original air date: February 16, 1978

This episode gets its title from a showdown between McGarrett and Al Marsh, an agent of the U.S. Department of Justice, who is protecting Jack Fabian, a murder suspect wanted by Five-O.

Some thoughts:

- About 4:30, Barney Kawala (Five-O's undercover man) is introduced to "Number 1" in the drug cartel. This part is played by John Russo, AKA Barry Russo, who played three similar roles during Season 9.

- Around 6:15, good stunt work by James MacArthur or his stunt double. If it is a double, they found someone who closely resembles MacArthur.

- At 7:35, I recognized the voice of the bearded Fabian as belonging to Charles Cioffi, AKA Charlie Bombay II from Season 8's "McGarrett Is Missing".

- Great line from McGarrett at 9:09, "Sammy, if (Barney) dies, and you're not telling me the truth, you're gonna go the distance. And that's gospel."

- Starting at 11:17, Barney's soon to be widow says, "Ten years in Denver, fifteen years here. Never a scratch." This dialogue is very similar to McGarrett's lines in the ninth season episode, "Dealer's Choice... Blackmail". When Sgt. George Tatupu died in that episode McGarrett said, "Twenty years on the force. Twenty years without a scratch." Ironically, both Sgt. George Tatupu and Barney Kawala were played by the same actor, Ernest Chan.

- At about the fifteen minute mark, the entire Five-O team is back in McGarrett's office. I'm going to treasure these moments. Barney's death has made me painfully aware of Chin Ho's impending demise.

- I noticed, as did Mike Quigley, that an interesting camera angle is used from 17:40-17:53 as McGarrett and Danno knock on the door of an apartment house. They, and the man who answers the door (federal agent Al Marsh), are filmed from beneath.

- There's a great exchange between Marsh and McGarrett at 20:28. Marsh tells McGarrett, "You're asking for official trouble." McGarrett replies, "Really? I have a feeling it's the other way around." And that's why I call him, "Lord Jack"!

- Around 31:20 Jack Fabian calls his girlfriend Luana Watkins at her flower shop and she asks him, "Where are you, Fred?" I was confused until I went back and confirmed that the new identity given to Fabian by the Justice Department is "Fred Jackman".

- I would like to point out the obvious fact that Fabian somehow missed at 45:20. An empty plastic pail is not an effective weapon!

- The musical score in this episode, apparently by Don B. Ray, is quite good.

Mike Quigley gives "Head to Head" 3.5 stars out of 4 (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#230) and I think he's being way too generous. I agree this episode is a cut above the typical Season 10 show, but it's not that good. For example, I gave 3.5 star ratings to "A Touch of Guilt", "Legacy of Terror", "The Last of the Great Paperhangers" and "Man in a Steel Frame". This episode does not belong in that esteemed company. I give "Head to Head" 2.5 stars.


Recap of Season 10 (so far):

I did miss a handful of episodes, but I think I've seen enough to give a fair assessment of Season 10 (so far).

Two thirds of the way in, I find myself watching five two-star episodes in a row, and describing the fifth as "another typical Season 10 episode". I also find myself writing (earlier in this post), that "many tenth season episodes recycle plots from previous, and usually better, Five-O shows." This is the nature of Season 10.

Beginning with Season 8, I've rated every Five-O episode that I've seen on a scale of one to four stars. Looking at just the first two-thirds of each season, and comparing these ratings, the decline of this once-great series couldn't be more evident:


Season 8 Season 9 Season 10
Excellent 60% 40% 18%
Good 33% 33% 27%
Fair 7% 13% 55%
Poor 0% 13% 0%
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100% 100% 100%


Despite this, I am enjoying watching and writing about these episodes as I have never seen any of them before. In addition, my last period of intense Five-O viewing was nearly five years ago, so I have missed the series. But to be honest, the highest praise I can give this season (so far) is that I have yet to encounter an episode that I truly despise. Season 9 had delivered two such episodes by this point.

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"The Big Aloha"

Strangely, there is an uncredited stenographer named "Ronnie" on McGarrett's right taking notes.

Actually it's quite clear that McGarrett is calling her "Lani". She's the Five-0 secretary who replaced Jenny (after season 8) and preceded Luana (before season 11). I'm sure you remember her in a few episodes back in season 9, though she was never played consistently by the same actress. In "Blood Money is Hard to Wash" she was played by the babely Lynne Kimoto. Here she is uncredited but I think it's Claudia Lowndes, who plays her in a few more season 10 episodes after this one.

- Then at 25:46, we get the second "Show the Wave" (act break). That was an unusually short second act - barely over seven minutes long!

The music that plays during this "commercial wave" is by Morton Stevens from "Up the Rebels". I believe this theme is used during the season for quite a few "commercial waves".

Speaking of Mike Quigley, he is quite harsh on this episode, giving it 1.5 stars out of 4.
But once again I'm going to break ranks with Mr. Mike, this time more significantly.
So I'm giving this episode 2.5 stars out of 4 on the MJQ scale.

I'm in agreement with Mr. Mike on this one, ratings-wise. I never cared for it. There is practically no suspense or tension here. It's a mostly dull affair. Until you brought it up, I completely forgot that there was some illegitimate child angle there. It's all very forgettable. Seems like more soap opera drama when I'd rather have more edgy cop drama. It's another episode where McGarrett is doing a favor for the Governor - helping one of his rich friends. That seemed to be a recurring theme during season 10 (and 11 as well). Also, did you noticed at the 5:12 mark that Constance Kincaid (Eleanor Parker) calls the Governor "Philip"? That's the second time this season already. For me this episode is on par with season 9's "Let Death Do Us Part". Dull and somewhat convoluted whodunits that lack any real danger or suspense.


"The Silk Trap"

For the record, I was rooting for Miss South Korea.

Not Miss Malaysia?? We didn't really get a very good look at Miss South Korea.

- At the seven minute mark, wow! I initially thought they would try to blackmail Congressman Carr for adultery. I never suspected they would try to frame him for murder!

Yep, they used the old "toss her off the highrise balcony" ploy!  One thing about these highrise falls, I remember that as a kid these things used to creep me out! It seemed like whenever I would turn on an episode of FIVE-0 someone would either be falling or getting tossed off a highrise. With the obligatory woman witness on the ground below looking up and screaming her head off (this didn't happen here presumably because it was nighttime). There was something about people always falling to their deaths from highrises in paradise that gave me the willies (plus I'm not too keen on heights).

- At the twenty minute mark, we see that the part of Jonathan Kaye has been recast yet again, with Lyle Bettger taking over the role. Bettger's performance is nothing great, but at least he's better than Miss Australia on the guitar!

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Mike Quigley gives "The Silk Trap" 2.5 stars out of 4 (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#229). Although I admit this episode has more visual interest than usual, I think he's being too generous.

I agree with Mike on this one. It's certainly an improvement over "The Big Aloha". At least we get some political intrigue mixed with blackmail and murder here, unlike the soap opera drama in the former. The beauty pageant is easy on the eyes as well. 

For example, I thought Andrea King (the boss of the beauty contest) being part of the blackmail plot was both contrived and unnecessary. Why was she involved, anyway? What did she hope to get out it? Money? Her motivation is never explained.

I agree that her inclusion in the blackmail plot seemed like a last minute change in the script. Her main purpose was to be this flaming feminist which would cause friction between her and McG. But then it looks like the writer decided at the last minute "Hey, let's also make her a baddie!" just to have a cool twist. I thought her bitchiness was interesting enough. No need to also make her a criminal.


"Head to Head"

- Great line from McGarrett at 9:09, "Sammy, if (Barney) dies, and you're not telling me the truth, you're gonna go the distance. And that's gospel."

Yep, that's a great line!

Ironically, both Sgt. George Tatupu and Barney Kawala were played by the same actor, Ernest Chan.

Yes, lots of similarities between these 2 characters in those 2 episodes ("Dealers Choice... Blackmail" and "Head to Head"). In both episodes Ernest Chan plays a cop friend of McGarrett's who is murdered early in the show. In both episodes McG takes the death pretty hard. In both episodes he shows real compassion when consoling the widow. Yes, even the dialogue is similar.

- I noticed, as did Mike Quigley, that an interesting camera angle is used from 17:40-17:53 as McGarrett and Danno knock on the door of an apartment house. They, and the man who answers the door (federal agent Al Marsh), are filmed from beneath.

Yes, I really liked this camera angle. Angles like these are a rare treat by this point in time. Long gone are the days of Michael O'Herlihy's inventive camera angles during the show's glory years.

- I would like to point out the obvious fact that Fabian somehow missed at 45:20. An empty plastic pail is not an effective weapon!

Indeed!  Even the Three Stooges would have used something more lethal when assaulting each other.

After McG knocks Fabian off the boat into the water at the 45:50 mark there is a really weird and out of place close-up shot of Duke's face. It's like someone sloppily inserted it just to show the audience who this dude standing on the boat is. Furthermore, it looks to be Duke's close-up shot from the opening credits! Weird, huh??

- The musical score in this episode, apparently by Don B. Ray, is quite good.

In the end credits it says "Theme by Morton Stevens" which means it's stock music ("Music by Morton Stevens" would indicate original score) but I did hear some Don Ray and some Morton Stevens there. I heard Ray during the shootout on the boat at the end between Marsh, Sunday, and Fabian. Then after Fabian shoots Marsh and is making his getaway I heard Stevens from "Up the Rebels".

Mike Quigley gives "Head to Head" 3.5 stars out of 4 (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#230) and I think he's being way too generous.
I give "Head to Head" 2.5 stars.

I agree. That's too high. 3.5 belongs to the best of the season, which for me would be "Tsunami". I could also maybe give 3.5 to "Deep Cover" or the season finale "Death in the Family". But not this episode. Your 2.5 sounds about right.

But to be honest, the highest praise I can give this season (so far) is that I have yet to encounter an episode that I truly despise. Season 9 had delivered two such episodes by this point.

Hey, it's not my fault that you came across a truly despicable episode but chose not to despise it.  Because it does exist in this season. But other than that one episode I too cannot think of an episode that I despise. So what does this tell us? It tells us that even when FIVE-0 jumps the shark it's still more enjoyable than other similar shows of its time. There really is no such thing as "unwatchable seasons of FIVE-0". It's a myth.

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"The Big Aloha"

Strangely, there is an uncredited stenographer named "Ronnie" on McGarrett's right taking notes. - alpha128 (me)


Actually it's quite clear that McGarrett is calling her "Lani". She's the Five-0 secretary who replaced Jenny (after season 8). I'm sure you remember her in a few episodes back in season 9, though she was never played consistently by the same actress. In "Blood Money is Hard to Wash" she was played by the babely Lynne Kimoto. Here she is uncredited but I think it's Claudia Lowndes, who plays her in a few more season 10 episodes after this one. - ringfire211


I see. Without the benefit of end credits or DVD subtitles, it's easy to get the name wrong. The fact this character was never consistently played by the same actress doesn't help either. And you are correct, I do remember the babely Lynne Kimoto quite well.

It's another episode where McGarrett is doing a favor for the Governor - helping one of his rich friends. Also, did you noticed at the 5:12 mark that Constance Kincaid (Eleanor Parker) calls the Governor "Philip"? That's the second time this season already. - ringfire211


I missed "Philip" the first time, but I went back and checked it, and you are right.

Speaking of Mike Quigley, he is quite harsh on this episode, giving it 1.5 stars out of 4. But once again I'm going to break ranks with Mr. Mike, this time more significantly. So I'm giving this episode 2.5 stars out of 4 on the MJQ scale. - alpha128 (me)


I'm in agreement with Mr. Mike on this one, ratings-wise. I never cared for it. There is practically no suspense or tension here. It's a mostly dull affair. For me this episode is on par with season 9's "Let Death Do Us Part". Dull and somewhat convoluted whodunits that lack any real danger or suspense. - ringfire211


Obviously, I disagree. "Let Death Do Us Part" is one of my least favorite episodes (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls003076358/) and IMO this is much better than that. No suspense or tension? What about the building circumstantial evidence against Dr. John? What about the wild horse rearing in a stall next to the unconscious Constance?


"The Silk Trap"

For the record, I was rooting for Miss South Korea. - alpha128 (me)


Not Miss Malaysia?? We didn't really get a very good look at Miss South Korea. - ringfire211


Miss South Korea is the first of the "one dozen perfect roses" to be introduced at 1:59. As for not getting a good look at her, you didn't rewind the scene a half-dozen or more times to record the countries of the contestants and the colors of their swimsuits. By the end of that, I got a very good look at her.  P.S. I just watched the scene again, and Miss Thailand is really nice too!

For example, I thought Andrea King (the boss of the beauty contest) being part of the blackmail plot was both contrived and unnecessary. Why was she involved, anyway? What did she hope to get out it? Money? Her motivation is never explained. - alpha128 (me)


I agree that her inclusion in the blackmail plot seemed like a last minute change in the script. Her main purpose was to be this flaming feminist which would cause friction between her and McG. But then it looks like the writer decided at the last minute "Hey, let's also make her a baddie!" just to have a cool twist. I thought her bitchiness was interesting enough. No need to also make her a criminal. - ringfire211


Yes, early in the episode she was given a backstory of being a former beauty queen herself, and the casting of Shannon Wilcox made that believable. The twist to have her be a criminal really makes no sense.


"Head to Head"

After McG knocks Fabian off the boat into the water at the 45:50 mark there is a really weird and out of place close-up shot of Duke's face. It's like someone sloppily inserted it just to show the audience who this dude standing on the boat is. Furthermore, it looks to be Duke's close-up shot from the opening credits! Weird, huh?? - ringfire211


Yes, it is weird. I just went back and compared this shot to Duke's appearance in the opening credits. I think it is a freeze-frame from Duke's opening credits footage. But the shot is flopped to have Duke looking in the right direction. It also looks more zoomed in to conceal the fact Duke is wearing a different jacket in the episode. Apparently, when they were editing this episode, they decided they wanted a reaction shot from Duke, but the director hadn't filmed one. So they improvised the shot they needed.


Recap of Season 10 (so far):

But to be honest, the highest praise I can give this season (so far) is that I have yet to encounter an episode that I truly despise. Season 9 had delivered two such episodes by this point. - alpha128 (me)


Hey, it's not my fault that you came across a truly despicable episode but chose not to despise it.  - ringfire211


I can't despise an episode with a "Lord Jack" moment that makes me laugh out loud (in a good way) for a few minutes! I just wish there had been another such moment at the end of the episode where McGarrett reaches inside his coat and presents "Moneybags" with an itemized bill for the wild goose he sent them on!

But other than that one episode I too cannot think of an episode that I despise. So what does this tell us? It tells us that even when FIVE-0 jumps the shark it's still more enjoyable than other similar shows of its time. There really is no such thing as "unwatchable seasons of FIVE-0". It's a myth. - ringfire211


I can't comment on Season 11 or Season 12 because I haven't seen them. But so far Season 10 is watchable, although it's abundantly clear that the series' best years are behind it. At this writing, I've seen "Tall on the Wave" and the next two episodes are "Angel in Blue" and "When Does a War End?". Based on Mr. Mike's ratings, I can't say I'm looking forward to those.

P.S. Based on the specific time references in your comments, it's apparent you are rewatching these episodes before posting. I appreciate you investing the time to watch and comment!

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"The Big Aloha"

No suspense or tension? What about the wild horse rearing in a stall next to the unconscious Constance?

 What about it?? Ok, so the horsey did become a bit spirited there at the end. But that's about it. Not enough tension for me though. But I suppose it beats a "flaky" lady with a ouija board, eh? Ok, I might be tempted to give a slight preference to "The Big Aloha" but I still maintain that it's a largely uneventful episode.


"Head to Head"

I think it is a freeze-frame from Duke's opening credits footage. But the shot is flopped to have Duke looking in the right direction.

Yes, you are right. It's definitely flopped. Actually it's in the opening credits that he's looking towards the right and in this episode he's looking towards the left.


the next two episodes are "Angel in Blue" and "When Does a War End?". Based on Mr. Mike's ratings, I can't say I'm looking forward to those.

Don't worry about Mike's ratings. Not only are those 2 episodes watchable but they're actually "good". "Angel in Blue" is actually in my top 5 for the season. It looks like Mike raised the rating for this one - as I recall it used have [NO STARS]


P.S. Based on the specific time references in your comments, it's apparent you are rewatching these episodes before posting. I appreciate you investing the time to watch and comment!

I'm actually not watching. My most recent season 10 rewatch was last year. I'm only checking out the specific scenes that you mention, as well as checking out those scenes that I recall from my rewatch that I'd like to point out to you. But I appreciate reading your comments as you watch these for the first time.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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The next two episodes are "Angel in Blue" and "When Does a War End?". Based on Mr. Mike's ratings, I can't say I'm looking forward to those. - alpha128 (me)


Don't worry about Mike's ratings. Not only are those 2 episodes watchable but they're actually "good". "Angel in Blue" is actually in my top 5 for the season. It looks like Mike raised the rating for this one - as I recall it used have [NO STARS] - ringfire211


Actually, both "Angel in Blue" and "When Does a War End?" used to have a 0.5 star ratings. Mr. Mike increased the rating of the former to 1.5 stars, and reduced the rating of the latter to zero stars. The only previous episode to get the infamous [NO STARS!] rating is "To Hell with Babe Ruth". There are also three Season 12 episodes with that rating.


P.S. Based on the specific time references in your comments, it's apparent you are rewatching these episodes before posting. I appreciate you investing the time to watch and comment! - alpha128 (me)


I'm actually not watching. My most recent season 10 rewatch was last year. I'm only checking out the specific scenes that you mention, as well as checking out those scenes that I recall from my rewatch that I'd like to point out to you. - ringfire211


I see. A year ago is still pretty recent. The episodes must still be relatively fresh in your mind.


But I appreciate reading your comments as you watch these for the first time. - ringfire211


Thanks. Back in the "Thoughts on Season 9" thread I wrote to Jeffman61:

I have to say that I have enjoyed our dialogues on Hawaii Five-O as much as I have enjoyed watching the episodes. Especially this season. Our discussions have always been entertaining, even when the episodes haven't been! - alpha128 (me)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/flat/217656622?d=221666967#221666967


I have to say the same is true with you this season. Maybe even more so, because the episodes in general are not as good. I don't think I could continue this thread without your support. So thanks again for reading and replying.

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I see. A year ago is still pretty recent. The episodes must still be relatively fresh in your mind.

Yes, still somewhat fresh. Of course this wasn't my first time watching them a year ago. However, it had been a long time prior to that since I had last seen them. I had forgotten huge chunks of the plot until I saw them again. But on the other hand I already forgot about the illegitimate child in "The Big Aloha" until you brought it up, despite having seen it last year.

I have to say the same is true with you this season. Maybe even more so, because the episodes in general are not as good. I don't think I could continue this thread without your support. So thanks again for reading and replying.

You're welcome. I totally understand. There's nothing worse than writing up a long "essay" (as it is in my case ) with nobody out there to read it. Kinda defeats the purpose of the whole endeavor. Especially when there are others things going on in one's life.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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Alpha,

Just now I watched "Head to Head" for the first time. Not a bad episode but certainly not worthy of 3 and a half stars given by Mike Q. at his site. As you stated "Head to Head" certainly was not worthy of the same rating as earlier episodes that you mention - amongst them the truly awesome Season 9 episode "Last of the Great Paper Hangers".

The opening scene in McGarrett's office to me on first viewing was unclear, muddled even. An H 5-0 cop was going undercover surrounding a potential drug deal. The team really wanted those involved in this deal to be brought to justice. Obviously these criminals had conducted previous illegal dealings prior to the opening of the episode. Still, and as the scene shifted to the area high above Honolulu, I still could not draw a bead on who this criminal element exactly were in terms of characters. I just think that in episodes dating back to the show's heyday - Seasons 4 - 8, the script writers just would have painted a much clearer picture of what was taking place as you were watching it.

Alpha you mention that the actor, Charles Cioffi appeared in the Season 8 episode "McGarrett is Missing". Cioffi also in the Season 7 episode "Right Grave-Wrong Body". Portraying a cop with a crooked past in that episode the final outcome of his character still was not as pleasant as it would be for his Jack Fabian character. Most likely following a criminal trial Fabian would end up in jail for murder charges. Fabian shot the undercover cop who died early in the episode unable to recover from his wounds plus in the end the "Marsh" federal govt. character played by George Grizzard.

In "Right Grave-Wrong Body", Cioffi's character ended up dead as he committed suicide. I know all of this only because I happened to have watched that particular episode several weeks ago. I didn't like the episode any better compared to my first viewing of it when I had purchased the Season 7 DVD set.

The actress Joanna Nails, who portrayed "Luana" was not bad looking. She seemed like the type of gal who would "stand by her man" Fabian no matter what. In fact it seemed as if she constantly was looking to try and help Fabian - her exact words that she repeated several times to him over the phone and also to Marsh. Really Luana as it turned out you could have picked yourself a more stand-up guy; not some guy who seemingly had the thought that killing another human being would be the only solution his problems.

Actually Luana's flower shop assistant, obviously a local Hawaiian gal was hot!! Too bad that she was only in the one scene - first talking to Luana before she left in her little sports car and a short while later to McGarrett and Danno who arrived on the scene too late.

I noted Mike's funny comment about the Marx brothers - Chin Ho and Duke regarding their "tailing techniques" when following the Rizzo character. A bit too close their guys when asked to follow a suspect - similar to what happened in the "Paper Hanger's", a truly comical moment taking place in that episode.

I also noted Mike's spotting that supposed right turn that Duke took driving the car, when as filmed from the viewpoint of Rizzo's left side mirror quite obviously they took a left turn. Didn't matter, even temporarily losing Rizzo when that truck pulled in front of Duke and Chin Ho - Rizzo suffered a heart attack crashing his vehicle into a fire hydrant. Duke got awfully wet retrieving that gun from the front seat after ascertaining that Rizzo was indeed dead.

That final scene in the boat with Fabian trying to put away McGarrett with an empty pail was also quite unintentionally funny. Why is it that compared to the current Steve McGarrett, (Alex O'Loughlin) he has encountered some truly tough criminals who displayed actual martial arts fighting techniques when about to be apprehended yet in the original Jack Lord's (McGarrett) seemingly encounters nothing but a bunch of wimps who wouldn't know a left jab from a right cross? This was even evident in the episode "Angel in Blue" which I just reviewed yesterday in that final fight sequence between McGarrett and the much younger, bigger and stronger "Surfer" character portrayed by Nephi Hannaman. Hannaman truly proved to have had a glass chin on the first solid punch thrown by McGarrett going down rather meekly. Probably Sir Jack Lord would not have allowed his character to portray a level of weakness when it came to hand-to-hand fighting skills. Only in the Season 4 episode "No Cans.. No Bottles... No Peoples" off the top of my head can I recall a character manhandling Lord's McGarrett in a fight sequence. Then again wasn't Ron Feinburg something like 6'8" tall?

This was an okay episode. I still believe that everything began to change slowly with Season 9. The level of some of the episodes were truly mediocre and unfortunately they began to appear with more frequency. I still maintain that Season 8 overall was the last really good season involving a majority of episodes that aired on television.

As I was in college at the time, (fall of 1975 - 79) I still cannot recall seeing so many of these Season 8 - 10 episode years ago. Studying and all that. I recall only being in front of a television watching "Charlie's Angels", (and like many guys I had a poster of Farrah Fawcett hung up on my dorm room wall) and sporting events such as baseball playoffs and football. I wonder what I would have thought of Hawaii 5-0 had I continued watching it through the latter seasons and the quality really of the show really took a turn for the worse?

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"Head to Head"

Just now I watched "Head to Head" for the first time. Not a bad episode but certainly not worthy of 3 and a half stars given by Mike Q. at his site. As you stated "Head to Head" certainly was not worthy of the same rating as earlier episodes that you mention - amongst them the truly awesome Season 9 episode "Last of the Great Paper Hangers". - Jeffman61


Yes indeed. I'm not sure why Mr. Mike thinks so highly of "Head to Head", but I'm sure he's been equally mystified by some of our ratings. Let us not forget he gave "Diary of a Gun" 3 stars and we both hated that episode.


This was an okay episode. I still believe that everything began to change slowly with Season 9. The level of some of the episodes were truly mediocre and unfortunately they began to appear with more frequency. I still maintain that Season 8 overall was the last really good season involving a majority of episodes that aired on television. - Jeffman61


I agree. Furthermore, I would say that, apart from a couple of episodes, you've seen the best of Season 10 (available for streaming). Of the episodes you haven't seen yet, there's a clear consensus among myself, Ringfire, and Mike Quigley that "My Friend, the Enemy" and the season finale, "A Death in the Family", are worth seeing.

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Let us not forget he (Mr. Mike) gave "Diary of a Gun" 3 stars and we both hated that episode.

That Mr. Mike sure knows what he's talking about.  Good solid episode!

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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That Mr. Mike sure knows what he's talking about.  Good solid episode! - ringfire211


The same Mr. Mike who wrote about "Tread the King's Shadow":

This episode would get a much higher rating if the music was better!
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#226


Yup, the music was the only major problem with that one! 

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Even great minds slip up once in a while. I have decided to forgive this egregious error on Mr. Mike's part. 

P.S. My guess is that Mike probably appreciates, as with "Descent of the Torches" (another episode I don't care for), the delving into Hawaiian culture/beliefs/history - a rarity for the show. It's just unfortunate that it revolved around such a crappy plot!

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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My guess is that Mike probably appreciates, as with "Descent of the Torches" (another episode I don't care for), the delving into Hawaiian culture/beliefs/history - a rarity for the show. It's just unfortunate that it revolved around such a crappy plot! - ringfire211


In all seriousness, I'm not going to speculate why Mike Quigley liked "Diary of a Gun".

When I posted my negative review of the episode (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0598039/reviews-1), another reviewer tried to put words in my mouth and speculated that I hated "Diary" because I was against gun control in real life (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0598039/reviews-3). I added a disclaimer to my review stating, "Let me state for the record that my poor rating of this episode is NOT politically motivated. It is merely a reaction to the bad writing."

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From what I understand Lord Jack was very pro gun control. No wonder there was another episode just like it in season 12 - "Use a Gun, Go to Hell".

Aside from what my personal views on guns are, I enjoyed both episodes. Yes, highly improbable but entertaining and suspenseful nevertheless.

P.S. Jack did receive a gold-plated gun as a gift from Elvis, which he (Jack) was very fond of.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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This is my next post in the "Thoughts on Season 10" thread, and it does include *spoilers*. Although I'm not actually watching these episodes on disc, it's convenient to organize my posts this way.

You can read my comments on Disc 1 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299

You can read my comments on Disc 2 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=245814263#245814263

You can read my comments on Disc 3 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246026403#246026403

You can read my comments on Disc 4 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246392996#246392996


"Tall on the Wave"
No. in season: 17
Directed by: Ronald Satlof
Written by: Bill Stratton
Original air date: March 2, 1978

As noted above, this episode is written by Bill Stratton, who had been writing for Five-O as far back as Season 4. Stratton's previous credits include several notable episodes: "Pig in a Blanket" and "Engaged to Be Buried" (both from Season 5), as well as "Target - A Cop", "A Capitol Crime", and "Blood Money Is Hard to Wash" (all from Season 9). According to the IMDb, Mr. Stratton died less than a year ago - RIP.

Stratton's long Five-O career puts him in the position of having written one of my all-time favorite episodes (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls005352325/) and one of my least favorite episodes (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls003076358/). However, I double-checked my lists, and this happened more often than you would expect:


WRITER FAVORITE EPISODE *LEAST* FAVORITE EPISODE
------------------ ----------------------------------- ------------------------
Bill Stratton "Engaged to Be Buried" "To Die in Paradise"

Anthony Lawrence "Death with Father" "To Hell with Babe Ruth"

Jerome Coopersmith "I'm a Family Crook - Don't Shoot!" "Diary of a Gun"
"Retire in Sunny Hawaii... Forever"
"Nine Dragons"

Bud Freeman "How to Steal a Masterpiece" "Let Death Do Us Part"
"Honor Is an Unmarked Grave"



This particular episode deals with a surfing competition at which Danno is one of the judges.

Some thoughts and observations:

- At 4:31 we see that Danno's civilian clothes include shoes with (for a man) very high heels.

- Around 6:30, the familiar face of Moe Keale is brought into McGarrett's office by Duke and an HPD officer. Based on his attire and the brief conversation with McGarrett, Keale's character "Charlie" must be a pimp. Interestingly, Moe Keale also played a pimp in the Stratton penned "Tricks Are Not Treats" (1973).

- At 7:55, McGarrett tells Danno, "Be sure you judge the surfers, not the bikinis." Yeah, I can see how that could happen.

- A great exchange at 9:53 between Lorca Davidson and her ex-lover Gavin McNabb. Gavin says, "Go ahead, walk by me like I'm a parking meter." Lorca replies, "Why not? Your time's expired!" . But unfortunately for Lorca, things soon take a tragic turn. The two struggle and she falls from the cliff, tearing off a piece from Gavin's T-shirt in the process.

- At 11:39, emergency services show up in response to Lorca's fatal fall. In real time, it takes a mere twenty-eight seconds for them to appear. I find that a bit hard to believe. Are we meant to believe that the site of Lorca's fall is a heavily trafficked area? It looked pretty remote to me!

- Lorca's boyfriend Ben Hanakea (Kimo Kahoano) is a friend of Danno's. I know it's a TV show, but shouldn't Danno recuse himself from the investigation?

- Around the sixteen minute mark, Doc Bergmann calls the Five-O office, but he is not seen. During the call Danno tells him to "get the fabric over to Charlie for analysis."

- At 18:55, we see that Gavin put his torn T-shirt in Ben's garbage can. Danno discovers this vital clue and in response Ben runs off into the jungle! It doesn't look good for Ben! Show the wave!

- At 30:44 we finally get some action! From the first act break until now, there was a long dull stretch.

- At 31:28, we see that the white truck in pursuit of Danno's car has a spare tire mounted on some kind of swinging boom, and it's loose!

- Wow! At 32:09 Danno drives his regular car off a dirt road and plows into a sandy beach. The front of Danno's car looks seriously dented after (and before!) doing this. However the damage seems to have miraculously repaired itself when Danno screeches to a halt at 32:23. Actually, it's pretty obvious that this is a completely different car. Mike Quigley notes the same on his website (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#231).

- At 33:39 Ben finally sees the light of reason and turns himself into Danno. Way to go buddy, you managed to pad out the episode by nearly fifteen minutes! Show the wave!

- After the break, we're in the crime lab and finally see the outcome of the fabric analysis by Charlie (not Moe Keale ).

- At 35:39, hey it's Chin! I think this is the first time we've seen him this episode! Blink and you'll miss him though.

- At 38:48, it's Chin again and this time he speaks! Actually the interrogation of Ben in prison turned out to be a pretty decent dramatic scene.

- At the forty-six minute mark, oh wow! Lorca's friend Elaine Sebastian just speared Gavin McNabb!

- At 46:23, we see Elaine trying to escape from Gavin McNabb along the same cliffside trail Lorca fell from early in the episode. I was expecting the pursuing McNabb to fall to his death, but instead he's collared by Duke and McGarrett.

In conclusion, Mike Quigley gives "Tall on the Wave" two stars out of four and I agree - barely. This episode was flirting with a 1.5 star rating. It's quite dull at times and, like many Tenth Season shows, heavily padded. But in the final analysis it is better than "To Die in Paradise".


"Angel in Blue"
No. in season: 18
Directed by: Allen Reisner
Written by: Irv Pearlberg
Original air date: March 9, 1978

As noted above, this episode is directed by Allen Reisner, who had been directing for Five-O as far back as Season 4. Reisner's previous credits include "Skinhead" and "Hookman", two episodes from my all-time favorites list (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls005352325/). He also directed "Study in Rage", one of my least favorite episodes (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls003076358/). So the question is, which will "Angel in Blue" more closely resemble?

This particular episode deals with a major drug shipment from Hong Kong headed first for Hawaii, and then the mainland. In the opening scene the body of an undercover cop named Bradley is found floating in the ocean.

Some thoughts and observations:

- At 2:16 we see a new medical examiner, who we've never seen before, has pulled three slugs from Bradley's body.

- At 5:43, we meet officer Valerie Bates, played by Carol Lynley. I remember her as "Nonnie" from "The Poseidon Adventure". Needless to say, it takes McGarrett a little convincing to accept a woman for this dangerous assignment. Ironically the police chief in this scene is played by Ernest Chan who (as previously noted in this thread) played two murdered undercover cops in previous episodes.

- At 7:36, we meet mobster Marty Lynch, played by Vic Tayback. Tayback had of course previously appeared on Five-O in "Bones of Contention" (1975).

- At 8:26, we meet thug and murderer for hire "Surfer", played by Nephi Hannemann. Hannemann would ultimately appear in eleven Five-O episodes.

- Oddly, at 9:03, Marty Lynch emerges from the next room in the process of changing his shirt. What was wrong with the other one?

- At 9:32 we see Valerie Bates sunning herself on the beach in a bathing suit. Hubba hubba!

- At 11:39, I was highly amused by Danno's report back to McGarrett on Valerie's undercover skills, "She's good, Steve. She's playing (Kimo) like a ukulele."

- At 15:54, we see that Valerie is now back in her bathing suit and sunning herself next to Lynch's pool. I approve!

- After the break, around the nineteen minute mark, we see that the "Matzo Cable and T-V" van is actually Chin Ho running surveillance. This is the first time Chin appears in this episode.

- From 19:05 to 19:54, Valerie and Kimo walk along the beach while the still swimsuit clad Valerie tries to unobtrusively pump Kimo for information about the drug deal. Originally I assumed the title of this episode referred to Valerie's job as a cop. But now I notice that her swimsuit is also blue. "Angel in Blue" indeed! 

- Around the twenty minute mark, we meet TV newsman Jimmy Akana, played by Five-O veteran Doug Mossman.

- Around the twenty-one minute mark, there is a tense scene as Valerie attempts to plant a bug on Lynch's phone and is possibly discovered by Surfer in the process. The music in this scene is very effective.

- From 29:10-29:40 we learn that the plan is to smuggle the drugs onto the mainland inside hollow wooden Tikis. That is Kimo's contribution to the criminal enterprise, as his uncle owns the "Hameo Woodcarving Co." In exchange Lynch is supposed to erase Kimo's gambling debts. This setup is reminiscent of that in Season 6's "The Flip Side is Death", where stolen money is stuffed into 8-track tape cartridges bound for the mainland.

- At 33:04, Kimo cleverly detects the bug Valerie planted earlier by seeing its reflection in the glass tabletop the phone is resting on. This leads into another tense scene with effective music, where Kimo decides to conceal the bug from Surfer and Lynch.

- Around the thirty-four minute mark, Chin calls McGarrett and informs him that the bug has been disabled. McGarrett angrily slams the receiver on to his desk and then throws it! Wow! Show the wave!

- There's a very odd scene at 38:06 where McGarrett takes another call from Chin. Unlike the scene four minutes earlier, McGarrett takes this call from a completely different office. In fact, it looks like his Territorial Building office from early in Season 9! Did Steve break his phone in the earlier scene and have to take this call from the Territorial Building?!? 

- At 46:27, Wow! Surfer just killed Kenny, I mean Kimo!

- Around the forty-seven minute mark, as I saw McGarrett prepare to leap from the helicopter, my reaction was "No Way!" And it's an odd edit from 47:15-47:16 when McGarrett jumps and lands on Surfer. On the plus side however, McGarrett gives Surfer "a nice Hawaiian Punch" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IpU3g-S8Q.

- I can't make out the last word that McGarrett says at 48:29, "You did a great job _____." Lady? Baby? Amy?

In the final analysis I agree with ringfire211 who declared, "'Angel in Blue' is actually in my top 5 for the season (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246560760#246560760), rather than Mike Quigley who raised his rating from 0.5 to 1.5 stars.

It's no "Hookman", but I'd give "Angel in Blue" a respectable 2.5 stars. I actually would rate it fourth best of what I've seen so far.

Best Season 10 Episodes I've seen (#1 being the best)

1. Up the Rebels (3 stars)
2. The Cop on the Cover (3 stars)
3. The Friends of Joey Kalima (2.5 stars)
4. Angel in Blue (2.5 stars)

P.S. On his website Mike Quigley notes with incredulity, "The writer, Irv Pearlberg, gave us The Bells Toll At Noon!" (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#232) I know, this was so much better than that! 


"When Does a War End?"
No. in season: 19
Directed by: Ernest Pintoff
Written by: Arthur Bernard Lewis
Original air date: March 16, 1978

This episode deals with one William Barker, Jr. who is targeting successful Japanese American businessman, Yuhio Muromoto, who has an dark secret in his past.

Some thoughts and observations:

- Around the two and a half minute mark we see the old exploding lunchbox trick! Interestingly, at first the Muromoto Imports Receiving Office appears to catch fire, but when we see it later there is only slight fire damage.

- At 3:53, Iolani, AKA Dolani, from "Deep Cover" is back.

- At 6:10, we meet Alicia Wade played by Anne Francis. Every year I attend a science fiction marathon that prides itself in showing movies of every decade. And so I recognize Anne Francis from the 1956 science fiction classic, "Forbidden Planet". In 1978 she was about 48 years old, and was still looking pretty good. I now see that the IMDb says she died in 2011 at the age of 80. RIP, Altaira.

- From 7:30-8:50 there's a long scene set on the Iolani Palace balcony. As I noted in my article on Season 9 Office Moves (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season9/offices.htm) the reconstructed balcony set first appeared in "Practical Jokes Can Kill You". This is perhaps the best look we get at the balcony in the entire series. Given how large and detailed this set is, I'm surprised they didn't use it more frequently.

- At 12:23 we meet Japanese Consul Mr. Sakata, played by Five-O veteran Tom Fujiwara, who ultimately appeared in 24 episodes.

- At 39:12, we learn that Alicia Wade has been working with Barker. That was an effective twist and act break! I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that Wade (who has been working for Muromoto for twelve years) was in love with him, and furious that he chose to marry a younger woman instead of her. Why else mention an unseen fiancée in a May-December romance with Muromoto? And sure enough, I find out at 40:47 that I was right!

- At 39:58, Duke presents McGarrett with a vital clue, an autographed WWII book signed by Alicia Wade. But she only signed her first name, and yet Danno immediately says "Alicia Wade" like there's only one "Alicia" in the entire state of Hawaii!

- At 42:13, we see Chopper 2 has some very powerful binoculars. They can read Muromoto's license plate very clearly!

As for rating this episode, I once again agree more with ringfire211 than with Mike Quigley. Ringfire wrote that "When Does a War End?" was "not only watchable but actually good" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246560760#246560760), while Mr. Mike stated this was "an execrable show, one of the very worst (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#233). Yes, there was some heavy-handed moralizing from McGarrett at the end, but it only lasted twenty seconds (48:38-48:58), so it wasn't that bad.

Furthermore, the twist to make Alicia Wade a villain was better thought out than the similar twist in "The Silk Trap" where Andrea King was part of the blackmail plot for no apparent reason.

Yes, as Mike Quigley notes, this episode recycles plot points from the Season 3 episode, "The Reunion". But after episodes like "The Waterfront Steal" and "Tread the King's Shadow", I thought it refreshing that the wealthy Mr. Muromoto had no objection to his daughter Nancy dating the white and poor cab driver William Barker, Jr.

In the final analysis, it's nothing great, but it's not the utter crap Mike Quigley makes it out to be either. I give "When Does a War End?" two stars out of four.


"Invitation to Murder"
No. in season: 20
Directed by: Harry Harris
Written by: Seeleg Lester
Original air date: March 23, 1978

This episode isn't available on the streaming site I'm using. I have to skip it for now. And that concludes Disc 5, only four more episodes to go!

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"Tall on the Wave"

As noted above, this episode is written by Bill Stratton, who had been writing for Five-O as far back as Season 4. Stratton's previous credits include several notable episodes: "Pig in a Blanket" and "Engaged to Be Buried" (both from Season 5), as well as "Target - A Cop", "A Capitol Crime", and "Blood Money Is Hard to Wash" (all from Season 9). According to the IMDb, Mr. Stratton died less than a year ago - RIP.

RIP, Mr. Stratton. He did write some fantastic episodes, including the 2 best from season 9! As for "To Die in Paradise" it's actually a guilty pleasure of mine. Even though I realize that it's not a great episode I have fond early memories of it. The beautiful rainforest scenery was an added bonus!

Interestingly, Moe Keale also played a pimp in the Stratton penned "Tricks Are Not Treats" (1973).

I'm wondering if you are rewatching some of the early episodes from your DVDs that you have purchased. I'm noticing you referring a lot to past episodes with astute accuracy. Even concerning minor details. I know IMDB can be an invaluable tool but some of those details you can't get from IMDB. Just curious. I've seen many of those episodes numerous times, so many of them are engrained in my memory. However, I don't know how many times you've seem them. Maybe you just have "photogenic memory", like Kono in "R&R&R". 

- At 11:39, emergency services show up in response to Lorca's fatal fall. In real time, it takes a mere twenty-eight seconds for them to appear. I find that a bit hard to believe.

I'm positive this was not supposed to be in real time. Some time has clearly passed. We even saw Gavin running through the woods and taking off his shirt before emergency services showed up. All this wouldn't have happened in 28 seconds.

- Wow! At 32:09 Danno drives his regular car off a dirt road and plows into a sandy beach. The front of Danno's car looks seriously dented after (and before!) doing this. However the damage seems to have miraculously repaired itself when Danno screeches to a halt at 32:23. Actually, it's pretty obvious that this is a completely different car.

Musical cars!! Also the car that plows into the sand looks like McGarrett's original Mercury from the early seasons!

- At the forty-six minute mark, oh wow! Lorca's friend Elaine Sebastian just speared Gavin McNabb!

That's Lisa Eilbacher playing Elaine! She starred in a string of high-profile movies in the early 80s like BEVERLY HILLS COP and AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN but her career quickly fizzled out it seems.

This episode was flirting with a 1.5 star rating. It's quite dull at times and, like many Tenth Season shows, heavily padded.

I like it a little more. I'd give it 2.5 stars. Not too bad, but far from great.

But in the final analysis it is better than "To Die in Paradise".

No way! This one didn't have the comic timing of "Bible Jim"! 

P.S. In the scene towards the end where Ben grabs his surfboard and goes after Gavin, the music that's playing is from "Up the Rebels" (by Morton Stevens) where McG is racing up onto the bridge after Stephen Boyd who is getting away on the boat. It's a very catchy piece! This music plays again in the very next episode "Angel in Blue" during the scene where the drug shipment is coming in by boat as Lynch watches through his binoculars.



"Angel in Blue"

- At 7:36, we meet mobster Marty Lynch, played by Vic Tayback. Tayback had of course previously appeared on Five-O in "Bones of Contention" (1975).

Tayback is good here, as he always is. With that gruff voice of his he's perfect when it comes to playing criminals and gangsters.

- At 8:26, we meet thug and murderer for hire "Surfer", played by Nephi Hannemann. Hannemann would ultimately appear in eleven Five-O episodes.

Nephi is also very good as the ruthless enforcer. Love his name!

- At 9:32 we see Valerie Bates sunning herself on the beach in a bathing suit. Hubba hubba!

She's gorgeous!! I'm not sure what Mr. Mike's problem with her is. Sure, she's a bit vapid-sounding in some spots but overall I didn't think her performance was anywhere near terrible. Sure is easy on the eyes though! An "angel in blue" indeed. 

- Around the thirty-four minute mark, Chin calls McGarrett and informs him that the bug has been disabled. McGarrett angrily slams the receiver on to his desk and then throws it! Wow! Show the wave!

This is a very good scene. I like the music and the camera angle during this scene. The camera seems to be looking up at McG and his desk from the floor level. The music that plays during the wave is by Morton Stevens from "Up the Rebels" (used in multiple commercial waves this season).

Did Steve break his phone in the earlier scene and have to take this call from the Territorial Building?!?

 Good catch!

On the plus side however, McGarrett gives Surfer "a nice Hawaiian Punch" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IpU3g-S8Q.

I was surprised to see negative comments under that "Hawaiian Punch" commercial. Apparently some found the "punch" to be offensive. Geez, what happened to people??  All this political correctness is turning people into a bunch of uptight sissies. Just relaaaaax, folks!

- I can't make out the last word that McGarrett says at 48:29, "You did a great job _____." Lady? Baby? Amy?

Definitely "lady".

In the final analysis I agree with ringfire211 who declared, "'Angel in Blue' is actually in my top 5 for the season

Yay!!  I'd give it a solid 3 stars. Maybe even 3.5! I actually like it better than "Up the Rebels" and it's easily one of the top episodes of the season. It has an engaging story - drug smuggling, undercover cop, possible redemption for a criminal, surveillance, etc. Plus it opens with a dead undercover cop floating in the water! I don't see what's not to like. It actually plays like a proper FIVE-0 episode where our boys (and a girl) take on serious criminals, instead of trying to locate star-crossed lovers/runaways and doing favors for the Governor's rich friends. It was a nice throwback to the early episodes like "Full Fathom Five", "Twenty-Four Karat Kill", or "Just Lucky, I Guess" where McG would reluctantly use a woman cop for an undercover assignment. This one isn't as good as those (well, maybe better than "Karat") but it's a nice nod to those types of episodes. Plus this one feels a bit more gritty/edgy than the typical season 10 episode.

P.S. On his website Mike Quigley notes with incredulity, "The writer, Irv Pearlberg, gave us The Bells Toll At Noon!". I know, this was so much better than that!

Now, now. Let's not go there. No need to disparage the Mona Lisa of FIVE-0.



"When Does a War End?"

Interestingly, at first the Muromoto Imports Receiving Office appears to catch fire, but when we see it later there is only slight fire damage.

It looks accurate to me. We see the door getting blown off by the explosion and then we see the door missing. What little fire there was I'm sure was put out immediately on the spot by those working there.

- At 6:10, we meet Alicia Wade played by Anne Francis. Every year I attend a science fiction marathon that prides itself in showing movies of every decade. And so I recognize Anne Francis from the 1956 science fiction classic, "Forbidden Planet". In 1978 she was about 48 years old, and was still looking pretty good. I now see that the IMDb says she died in 2011 at the age of 80. RIP, Altaira.

I remember seeing her guesting on quite a few shows in the 70s and 80s, mostly notably 2 COLUMBOs. She also co-starred in one of my favorite Westerns - the 1955 classic BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK with Spencer Tracy.

This is perhaps the best look we get at the balcony in the entire series. Given how large and detailed this set is, I'm surprised they didn't use it more frequently.

I agree entirely! We spend so much time inside McG's office that it's mind-boggling why they didn't take advantage of the balcony set more. Whenever I see McG on a balcony I always immediately perk up because it's such a rarity. You mentioned "Practical Jokes" but I can remember McG being on a balcony as far back as season 6 and I'm sure even earlier. I recall him talking on the balcony about one of the dead cops in "Hookman". Doesn't he also kick the balcony door open in a fit of anger/frustration in "Nightmare in Blue"? I'm sure we saw him on the balcony in seasons prior to that too. It may have been a slightly different set than the one in "Practical Jokes" (can't recall off the top of my head). Still, the point is that we didn't see enough of those balcony scenes.

As for rating this episode, I once again agree more with ringfire211 than with Mike Quigley.

 Here here again! Personally I think it's a pretty darn good episode, especially by season 10 standards. No, it can't hold a candle to "The Reunion" (I miss Simon Oakland bellowing "Rashiri!! Rashiri!!" ) but I still find it to be one of the better episodes of this season. It actually used to be in my top 5 for the season and I even preferred it to "Angel in Blue" but upon my most recent rewatch (last year) it went down a bit while "Angel" actually went up a bit. I always enjoy the Japanese/WWII angle in any of these episodes so this was a positive here. However, it was the "performance" of David Dukes as Willy Barker that hurts the episode. I agree with Mr. Mike that his constant facial ticks and constipated looks become quite irritating (as well as unintentionally hilarious). I guess he's supposed to look creepy or disturbed but he just comes across as ridiculous (reminds me a bit of Mark Lenard's attempts at acting in "To Hell With Babe Ruth", though not quite that bad). As a kid I didn't notice this I guess (same with Lenard in "Babe Ruth") but nowadays it's much harder not to notice bad acting.

Speaking of Dukes, he is probably best remembered as the creep who tried to rape Edith Bunker in that controversial episode of ALL IN THE FAMILY, which aired just a few months prior to this in the fall of 1977. He apparently even received death threats after that episode aired!  The same thing happened to actor Andrew Robinson after playing the psychotic sniper "Scorpio" in DIRTY HARRY in 1971.

Furthermore, the twist to make Alicia Wade a villain was better thought out than the similar twist in "The Silk Trap" where Andrea King was part of the blackmail plot for no apparent reason.

I agree that it was a better twist.

In the final analysis, it's nothing great, but it's not the utter crap Mike Quigley makes it out be be either. I give "When Does a War End?" two stars out of four.

It's a solid episode with a good story and I'd give it between 2.5 and 3 stars. Closer to 3 stars. It's no worse or better than "Cop on the Cover" or "Joey Kalima".


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"Tall on the Wave"

Interestingly, Moe Keale also played a pimp in the Stratton penned "Tricks Are Not Treats" (1973). - alpha128 (me)


I'm wondering if you are rewatching some of the early episodes from your DVDs that you have purchased. I'm noticing you referring a lot to past episodes with astute accuracy. Even concerning minor details. I know IMDB can be an invaluable tool but some of those details you can't get from IMDB. Just curious. I've seen many of those episodes numerous times, so many of them are engrained in my memory. However, I don't know how many times you've seem them. Maybe you just have "photogenic memory", like Kono in "R&R&R".  - ringfire211


I'm consulting my DVDs very little. I am mostly relying on my "photogenic memory" and the IMDb. There have been numerous instances where I recognize a face, look up their name for the current episode, and then see what other episodes they have been in. The one instance where I did rewatch an earlier episode was "Presenting...in the Center Ring...Murder". I rewatched some of that to confirm that "Deadly Doubles" used the same stadium exterior.


"Angel in Blue"

At 9:32 we see Valerie Bates sunning herself on the beach in a bathing suit. Hubba hubba! - alpha128 (me)


She's gorgeous!! I'm not sure what Mr. Mike's problem with her is. Sure, she's a bit vapid-sounding in some spots but overall I didn't think her performance was anywhere near terrible. Sure is easy on the eyes though! An "angel in blue" indeed.  - ringfire211


Works for me!


On the plus side however, McGarrett gives Surfer "a nice Hawaiian Punch." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IpU3g-S8Q - alpha128 (me)


I was surprised to see negative comments under that "Hawaiian Punch" commercial. Apparently some found the "punch" to be offensive. Geez, what happened to people?? All this political correctness is turning people into a bunch of uptight sissies. Just relaaaaax, folks! - ringfire211


I did not read the comments the first time, but I went back and did so now. I don't get the outrage. First, it's cartoon. Second, the level of "violence" portrayed is relatively minimal. So I just had to check the comments on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyPFQKpRnd0. Thankfully most people were able to appreciate it for what it is.


I can't make out the last word that McGarrett says at 48:29, "You did a great job _____." Lady? Baby? Amy? - alpha128 (me)


Definitely "lady". - ringfire211


I thought "lady" was the most likely possibility, but I just couldn't make it out. That's one downside of watching these episodes online, no subtitles.


In the final analysis I agree with ringfire211 who declared, "'Angel in Blue' is actually in my top 5 for the season." - alpha128 (me)


Yay!!  I'd give it a solid 3 stars. Maybe even 3.5! - ringfire211


I wouldn't go that far. Now maybe if Carol Lynley had been wearing a bikini instead of a one-piece bathing suit... 


P.S. On his website Mike Quigley notes with incredulity, "The writer, Irv Pearlberg, gave us The Bells Toll At Noon!". I know, this was so much better than that! - alpha128 (me)


Now, now. Let's not go there. No need to disparage the Mona Lisa of FIVE-0. - ringfire211


Sorry, I just couldn't resist! 


"When Does a War End?"

This is perhaps the best look we get at the balcony in the entire series. Given how large and detailed this set is, I'm surprised they didn't use it more frequently. - alpha128 (me)


I agree entirely! We spend so much time inside McG's office that it's mind-boggling why they didn't take advantage of the balcony set more. Whenever I see McG on a balcony I always immediately perk up because it's such a rarity. You mentioned "Practical Jokes" but I can remember McG being on a balcony as far back as season 6 and I'm sure even earlier. - ringfire211


I mentioned "Practical Jokes Can Kill You" because the production had a new studio built during the Season 9 production run:

Then they headed back to Hawaii Five-O's new studio, on Diamond Head Road. It was built on government land and it took many months of dealing to get the necessary permits to build the studio. And $500,000.

http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/9yrlater.htm


So although the balcony set had been featured in earlier episodes, "Practical Jokes" was the first time the balcony set at the new studio was used.


As for rating this episode, I once again agree more with ringfire211 than with Mike Quigley... In the final analysis, it's nothing great, but it's not the utter crap Mike Quigley makes it out to be either. I give "When Does a War End?" two stars out of four. - alpha128 (me)


It's a solid episode with a good story and I'd give it between 2.5 and 3 stars. Closer to 3 stars. It's no worse or better than "Cop on the Cover" or "Joey Kalima". - ringfire211


I preferred both "Cop on the Cover" and "Joey Kalima" to this. But "When Does a War End?" is clearly better than "To Hell with Babe Ruth", with which it shares an infamous "[NO STARS!]" rating at Mike Quigley's site. However, no argument from me regarding Mr. Mike's rating of "Babe Ruth".

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I'm consulting my DVDs very little. I am mostly relying on my "photogenic memory" and the IMDb.

I see. Good memory! Have you rewatched any of the season 1-9 DVDs since your first viewing when you purchased them?

I did not read the comments the first time, but I went back and did so now. I don't get the outrage. First, it's cartoon. Second, the level of "violence" portrayed is relatively minimal.

I think it's because people are too sensitive these days. Back in the day everyone would have laughed at that and not given it a second thought. Nowadays folks either find it unfunny or mean-spirited or in poor taste or whatever. I don't know what it is. Is it because there is more violence around us today than ever before? Is it all the shootings (school, movie theater, church, military facility, etc.) that happen regularly? Folks are wound up tight these days it seems. I sure do miss the simpler times.

So I just had to check the comments on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyPFQKpRnd0. Thankfully most people were able to appreciate it for what it is.

 Gotta love Looney Tunes! Never gets old! Heck, it's an American institution! Good to see that folks can still have a good laugh and not over-analyze a cartoon.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist!

Yes, I figured as much. It's all good!

However, no argument from me regarding Mr. Mike's rating of "Babe Ruth".

Believe it or not, I used to like "Babe Ruth" when I first saw it as a youngster. I dug the storyline. I still think the plot itself is interesting - a mentally unstable Japanese soldier planning to finish a mission he started 28 years earlier. The problem is the wretched performance of Mark Lenard. UGGHH!! I'm feeling ill just thinking about it.... 

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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I see. Good memory! Have you rewatched any of the season 1-9 DVDs since your first viewing when you purchased them? - ringfire211


I've rewatched some individual episodes, but not complete seasons.


I did not read the comments the first time, but I went back and did so now. I don't get the outrage. First, it's cartoon. Second, the level of "violence" portrayed is relatively minimal. - alpha128 (me)


I think it's because people are too sensitive these days. Back in the day everyone would have laughed at that and not given it a second thought. Nowadays folks either find it unfunny or mean-spirited or in poor taste or whatever. I don't know what it is. Is it because there is more violence around us today than ever before? Is it all the shootings (school, movie theater, church, military facility, etc.) that happen regularly? - ringfire211


Perhaps. But if that's the case, why weren't people complaining about the Looney Tunes cartoon where a gun was fired in Daffy Duck's face, multiple times?!? 


Believe it or not, I used to like "Babe Ruth" when I first saw it as a youngster. I dug the storyline. I still think the plot itself is interesting - a mentally unstable Japanese soldier planning to finish a mission he started 28 years earlier. The problem is the wretched performance of Mark Lenard. UGGHH!! I'm feeling ill just thinking about it....  - ringfire211


I agree that Mark Lenard's performance is horrible. But that's not the only problem with "Babe Ruth". Upon my first viewing I noticed another huge issue with this episode, which is described by Mike Quigley:

The ending of this show is ridiculous. In order to find Nagata with his ticking time-bomb, McGarrett enlists the help of a military team with highly sensitive microphones to check an oil-tank farm in Honolulu. How they can hear the ticking with the din of traffic in the background, not to mention the clump-clump of army boots on the metal walkways, staggers me. http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log2.htm#25

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I've rewatched some individual episodes, but not complete seasons.

I see. So far I've rewatched seasons 1-4 in their entirety since the initial DVD viewing. I really want to begin season 5 soon. Need to find some free time.

Perhaps. But if that's the case, why weren't people complaining about the Looney Tunes cartoon where a gun was fired in Daffy Duck's face, multiple times?!?

I've no idea. Perhaps the antics of Elmer and Daffy are beyond criticism, being pretty much an American institution. Maybe they thought the Hawaiian Punch commercial was a strange way to market a product - i.e. if you buy this product you'll be able to skip along and sock people left and right.  Who knows? 

I agree that Mark Lenard's performance is horrible. But that's not the only problem with "Babe Ruth". Upon my first viewing I noticed another huge issue with this episode, which is described by Mike Quigley:

The ending of this show is ridiculous. In order to find Nagata with his ticking time-bomb, McGarrett enlists the help of a military team with highly sensitive microphones to check an oil-tank farm in Honolulu. How they can hear the ticking with the din of traffic in the background, not to mention the clump-clump of army boots on the metal walkways, staggers me.

I never had any problems with that scene. I just assumed they had special equipment that could pick up bomb ticks or other frequencies.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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A few hours ago I watched the Season 10 episode "Angel in Blue". I had never seen it before and thought it fairly good. I tend to agree with Mike Q's assessment regarding Carol Lynley's performance as Valerie Bates/Karen Baker. Her acting was just a little unconvincing. She also came on too strong specifically in her interaction with the Kimeo Hameo character. Boy did she quickly turn out to be the nosey, meddling "girlfriend".

I kept looking at Ms. Lynley recognizing her from a few past performances. As noted by Alpha, yes she was in the original "Poseidon Adventure". I also remember her in the truly wretched "Return to Peyton Place" (1961) supposedly a sequel to the classic 1957 original. Ms. Lynley also appeared in numerous character roles for several decades until the late 1990's with appearances on such television shows as "The Man from U.N.C.L.E.", "Mannix", "The FBI", "Kojak", "Quincy", "Hart to Hart", "Fantasy Island' (roles over a 6/7 year period) and "Charlie's Angels". No Carol was not one of the 3 "Angels".

In one hilarious scene in "Return to Peyton Place", Ms. Lynley's "Allison" character is trying to outrun a guy who is interested in her romantically. Allison in her little sports car weaving through the roads at speeds is seen driving too fast for her abilities and you think that something is going to happen.

Sure enough, Allison is to lose control of her car crashing it into a tree. Not hurt that badly nevertheless she still refuses to accept the help of this playboy who quickly comes to her aid. She tried re-starting her sports car but is unable to do so successfully - no doubt the engine damaged after that collision with the tree. Pumping the gas pedal like a fiend also was not helping the situation as I can still picture it as the scene played out. She only was probably flooding out the car's carburetor in addition to the fact that the thing most likely would not have restarted up anyway. Still quite stubborn Allison is to get out of her disabled car intending to walk in high heels the long distance, (at least 5 miles) to where she is going. She stubbornly refuses his offer of a lift.

Soon, her feet in heels quite sore walking on the pavement she finally accepts his offer for a ride; acting as if it were almost beneath her dignity to accept a ride from this man. Ms. Lynley, (according to her bio) then 18/19 in age the year that the movie was filmed acted every bit the defiant, pouty teenage girl.

Vic Tayback was great in his performance as the nasty criminal, bent on getting that drug shipment completed. He also was outstanding in a previous episode from an earlier season "Bones of Contention".

I do agree that Carol Lynley looked quite attractive in that bathing suit in at least 3 different scenes. Then in her mid-30's Carol would have caught the attention of any heterosexual man walking around Waikiki barefoot and in nothing but a bathing suit. The first bathing suit scene was the all important one as sauntering up to the bar where the Kimeo character was having a drink, Carol's character had to seduce him immediately. Revealing a little skin in that suit, Carol's character nevertheless succeeded in attracting the roving eye of Kimeo who insisted on buying her a drink, after lighting her cigarette for her.

I thought that Carol's character came on a bit too strong in the scene in that barn where Kimeo revealed the plot involving hiding the drugs inside the wooden artifacts. Still not revealing that she was a cop, Carol managed to mess with Kimeo's head telling him how bad it was for him in the long run to keep participating in criminal activities with Vic Tayback's Martin Lynch character. Perhaps I should give her character credit however as she managed to get out of Kimeo the entire scheme.

In the end after Kimeo died, she truly was almost devastated by his violent demise, (getting shot twice in the back). I almost want to say that Carol's character had fallen slightly in love with Kimeo - evidenced by her visibly crying while kneeling over his body and having to be guided away by McGarrett. I wonder how it would have worked out if Kimeo was not shot dead? As Carol had promised to him earlier about facing the consequences for his actions, (and she putting in a good word for him), would she have really gone out of her way to try and reduce whatever criminal charges he would have been facing?

"Surfer" played by Nephi Hannaman turned out to be one crazy, bad*ss dude, although in the end he was unable to put up much of a fight after McGarrett had jumped out of the helicopter in an attempt to capture this criminal. If "Surfer" had had his way, Carol's character would have been killed immediately and right after he received info that she really was a cop.

An aside: For someone who stated that she came in 2nd in her class in self-training, (probably out of two students) I certainly did not see any martial arts moves displayed by Carol's character in the barn in an attempt to bring down "Surfer". He tossed her aside like a rag doll and were it not for Kimeo bringing the wooden artifact down across "Surfer's" arm temporarily dazing him, both Carol and Kimeo would have ended up dead right there in the barn.

I found it almost hysterical that Martin Lynch and "Surfer" had absolutely no idea that the blue television van parked across the street from the house for a few days happened to contain Chin Ho - monitoring the activities taking place inside the house. I mean hello guys? How long would it take to repair the television inside a private home?

I rank this episode behind "Up With Rebel", "Cop on the Cover", and despite not seeing it a second time in several years "A Death in the Family" for all of the Season 10 episodes. I thought it better than "Friends of Joey Kalima". I have yet to see "Head to Head" judged by Mike Q. as deserving of 3 and a half stars. It's just too bad that "Descent of the Torches" and "East Wind, Ill Wind" apparently are not available streaming at Daily Motion as both of those episodes on Mike's site were rated extremely high.

One final thing: Man, has it begun to drive me crazy when the revenue paying commercials appear out of the blue and right in the middle of dialogue every 5 - 7 minutes or so through these episodes. I mean, really Daily Motion couldn't you have sequenced the commercials to appear instead right during the 3 natural breaks that occurred when the episodes first aired? The only episode where these commercials did not appear was in the first one that I watched at the site - "Up with Rebel". But beginning with "Cop on the Cover" to "Friends of Joey" and today "Angel in Blue" these stupid 20 - 25 second commercials kind of ruined the atmosphere in watching the episodes. Danny is in the middle of a sentence talking to McGarrett in the office when suddenly you see a commercial for Kraft macaroni. Truly annoying!!!!

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"Angel in Blue"

A few hours ago I watched the Season 10 episode "Angel in Blue". I had never seen it before and thought it fairly good.

I do agree that Carol Lynley looked quite attractive in that bathing suit in at least 3 different scenes. Then in her mid-30's Carol would have caught the attention of any heterosexual man walking around Waikiki barefoot and in nothing but a bathing suit. The first bathing suit scene was the all important one as sauntering up to the bar where the Kimeo character was having a drink, Carol's character had to seduce him immediately. Revealing a little skin in that suit, Carol's character nevertheless succeeded in attracting the roving eye of Kimeo who insisted on buying her a drink, after lighting her cigarette for her. - Jeffman61


Yes, Carol Lynley was gorgeous. No wonder her character was able to play Kimo "like a ukulele".


I wonder how it would have worked out if Kimeo was not shot dead? As Carol had promised to him earlier about facing the consequences for his actions, (and she putting in a good word for him), would she have really gone out of her way to try and reduce whatever criminal charges he would have been facing? - Jeffman61


It's all speculation, but I believe that she would have tried to help him, and probably would have succeeded, since he didn't rat her out to Surfer and Lynch when he had the chance.


An aside: For someone who stated that she came in 2nd in her class in self-training, (probably out of two students) I certainly did not see any martial arts moves displayed by Carol's character in the barn in an attempt to bring down "Surfer". He tossed her aside like a rag doll and were it not for Kimeo bringing the wooden artifact down across "Surfer's" arm temporarily dazing him, both Carol and Kimeo would have ended up dead right there in the barn. - Jeffman61


That's a good point. Second out of two students - that's funny! 


I found it almost hysterical that Martin Lynch and "Surfer" had absolutely no idea that the blue television van parked across the street from the house for a few days happened to contain Chin Ho - monitoring the activities taking place inside the house. I mean hello guys? How long would it take to repair the television inside a private home? - Jeffman61


Another good point. Reminds me of a quote from "Prelude", the second season opener of "The Equalizer" TV series:

ROBERT MCCALL: "Who would believe that an unmarked van, parked all night over a telephone junction box, would be doing anything other delivering orange juice?



I rank this episode behind "Up With Rebel", "Cop on the Cover", and despite not seeing it a second time in several years "A Death in the Family" for all of the Season 10 episodes. I thought it better than "Friends of Joey Kalima". - Jeffman61


I'm glad you found "Angel in Blue" worthwhile viewing.


I have yet to see "Head to Head" judged by Mike Q. as deserving of 3 and a half stars. - Jeffman61


I agreed with Mike Quigley that "Head to Head" was better than the typical Season 10 show, but I didn't like it as much as he did. I'll be interested to see what you think of it.


One final thing: Man, has it begun to drive me crazy when the revenue paying commercials appear out of the blue and right in the middle of dialogue every 5 - 7 minutes or so through these episodes. Danny is in the middle of a sentence talking to McGarrett in the office when suddenly you see a commercial for Kraft macaroni. Truly annoying!!!! - Jeffman61


They've got to pay for that bandwidth, but I know what you mean - he didn't use the double boiler.

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This is my next post in the "Thoughts on Season 10" thread, and it does include *spoilers*.

You can read my comments on Disc 1 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299

You can read my comments on Disc 2 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=245814263#245814263

You can read my comments on Disc 3 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246026403#246026403

You can read my comments on Disc 4 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246392996#246392996

You can read my comments on Disc 5 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246901727#246901727


For the first time this season, the streaming site I'm using has a complete disc of episodes. As a result, I hit the IMDb's length limitation and I'm going to post this disc in two parts.


"Frozen Assets"
No. in season: 21
Directed by: Reza Badiyi
Written by: Seeleg Lester and Sam Neuman
Original air date: March 30, 1978

In this episode, famous mystery writer Millicent Shand investigates the alleged murder of her friend at the Cryogenic Foundation run by Dr. Kenneth Kirk.

Some thoughts and observations:

- At 3:24 Dr. Kirk explains, "Cryogenics is the study of low temperatures. And our branch deals with the suspension and immobilization of the human body, in temperatures as close to zero as possible." This of course immediately begs the question, zero degrees Fahrenheit? Celsius? Kelvin? I must assume he means zero degrees Kelvin, AKA absolute zero. This is confirmed much later in the episode, when Kirk's assistant Norman Pryce mentions at 29:16, "normalizing temperature from -272 degrees." According to Wikipedia, absolute zero is -273.15 degrees Celsius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero). But oddly, a technician played by Jimmy Borges then starts giving a patient's temperature in degrees Fahrenheit. Either the initial temperature is wrong (absolute zero is -459.67 degrees Fahrenheit) or they are mixing and matching temperature scales.

- Around the nine minute mark, McGarrett tells Dr. Kirk, "we'll see what the Attorney General has to say about (an autopsy)" and then at 9:15 we see McGarrett talking to Kwan Hi Lim who is credited as "Himself". Does that mean Kwan Hi Lim was the Attorney General in real life at the time?

- At 14:53, and again at 20:05, first Danno and then McGarrett mention a man named Malcolm Craigie who died in an "accident". However, that doesn't appear to be the character's original name. Initially both Danno and McGarrett say the name off-screen, and in both cases the audio sounds dubbed. But at 21:48 McGarrett speaks the name clearly and on camera. Perhaps the character's name was changed during production?

- At 30:14 there's a close-up of a medical device with a digital readout. However, this episode was made long before digital thermometers were commonplace. If you look closely, you can see that the "TEMP." label on the display was made with a punch type label maker! (http://heck-yeah-old-tech.tumblr.com/post/11858693164/dymo-punch-tape-label-maker-and-six-colors-of)

- Furthermore, the real labeling on the front of that medical device, which includes "bpm", "TRIGGER", "ALARM", and "QRS VOLUME", indicates that it is actually a defibrillator! (http://frankshospitalworkshop.com/equipment/documents/defibrillators/service_manuals/Zoll_R-Series_-_Configuration_guide.pdf)

- There's a very funny moment starting at 32:55 when Duke tells McGarrett that an apparently revived patient must have been smoking his last cigarette before he passed out. McGarrett incredulously responds, "What have you two been smoking?" 

Before I give my rating for this episode, I have to note that, according to one viewer:

("Hawaii Five-O") jumped when the producers, desperate for guest stars other than Don Stroud, hired aging, ex-Rat packer Peter Lawford to play a demented doctor. This was in the last couple of seasons, I think. http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/jumptheshark.htm


I also have to note that Mike Quigley says the episode is "pretty good" and gives it 2.5 stars out of 4 (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#235).

Personally, I would call this yet another two-star Season 10 episode that recycles plots from previous, and better, Five-O shows. I noticed, as did Mike Quigley, that "Frozen Assets" is reminiscent of "Retire in Sunny Hawaii -- Forever". Both episodes feature septuagenarian female investigators. In addition, this episode features "high-tech" quackery reminiscent of "Once Upon a Time". Both "Retire in Sunny Hawaii -- Forever" and "Once Upon a Time" are on my favorite episodes list (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls005352325/), and "Frozen Assets" suffers by comparison. On the plus side however, the climax where Miss Shand almost falls into Dr. Kirk's clutches before McGarrett can arrive is pretty exciting.

P.S. I will always associate Peter Lawford with this mock quote (as seen in this clip) from the MST3K version of his next project, Angels' Brigade (1979), "By this time my lungs were aching for booze": https://www.youtube.com/v/7omwjZLRp3U?version=3&start=265&end=283&autoplay=1&hl=en_US&rel=0


"My Friend, the Enemy"
No. in season: 22
Directed by: Noel Black
Written by: Gerry Day
Original air date: April 13, 1978

This episode features former Bond girl Luciana Paluzzi as Italian journalist Liana Labella, who uncovers a plot to kidnap a Middle Eastern princess who is visiting Hawaii with her husband.

Some thoughts and observations:

- This episode opens with footage of the good old Aloha Tower. Back then it was a commercial port with waterfront warehouses as seen here and in "Anybody Can Build a Bomb".

Today, Aloha Tower continues to serve as a welcoming landmark for kama'aina and visitors alike. Still a docking port of O'ahu's cruise ships, this historic site now includes the Aloha Tower Marketplace, a retail development that has been revitalized by Hawai'i Pacific University into a vibrant, mixed-use residential, educational, and commercial gathering space designed to serve HPU students, Hawai'i residents, and visitors from around the world.

http://www.alohatower.com/aloha-tower/


- At the five minute mark Danno mentions seeing Labella on "The Mike Douglas Show" which was a real TV show at the time.

- Starting at 6:38, McGarrett and Danno interview Labella and it's clear Danno is smitten with her. At 7:48 he grins at her and gushes that she is "absolutely right." McGarrett notices and warns Danno at 8:25 "not to mix business with pleasure."

- At 8:40, as Labella is backing up her car, she comes pretty close to hitting McGarrett's car!

- At 36:14, fake chauffeur Paul Roberts (Bruce Wilson) asks for incriminating film at gunpoint. But moments earlier he entered the darkroom while the red light was turned on. Doesn't that mean the film was already ruined?

- At 36:28, Roberts throws a pan of developing fluid in Duke's face! This is considered hazardous waste! (http://blink.ucsd.edu/safety/research-lab/hazardous-waste/photo.html) Thankfully at 36:50, Danno informs McGarrett that Duke's glasses kept most of the chemicals out of his eyes.

- At 37:18, Duke, sans glasses, walks into McGarrett's office. There's a touching scene as McGarrett says, "It's good to see you safe my friend" and Duke responds, "It's good to see!"

- At 45:22 that is none other than George "Moneybags" Cameron (James B. Sikking) in a police helicopter looking for a red van that is carrying away Liana Labella and her source, waiter Pete Kalua (Terry Plunkett). No doubt this is community service in exchange for wasting McGarrett's time and taxpayer money back in "Tread the King's Shadow"! 

- Chin is mentioned several times during the episode, but he doesn't actually appear until 45:49!

- At 46:07, McGarrett takes off in pursuit of the red van. We saw in Season 7's "Steal Now - Pay Later" that McGarrett's car has a siren. So why isn't he using it now?

- At the end of the episode McGarrett steals Labella away from Danno, stating the old Navy maxim, "Rank has its privileges." Felix Leiter dating Fiona Volpe? The mind boggles!

In conclusion, "My Friend, the Enemy" is definitely better than the typical Season 10 show. It's a fairly original story, apart from some superficial similarities to Season 9's "Double Exposure". It's not padded either. Mike Quigley gives "My Friend, the Enemy" 2.5 stars out of 4 (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#236) and I concur.


You can read my comments on the last two Disc 6 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=247354654#247354654

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Alpha,
So I got around to re-watching "Cry Lie" (Season 2) and "Engaged to be Buried", (Season 5) which in addition to "Death In the Family" featured at least one of Chin Ho Kelly's children.

Specifically I wanted to analyze the eldest daughter seen in all three. I previously posted the fact that the then 14/15 year old girl seen in "Cry Lie" (not being credited with either her name in the script and the young actress who portrayed her) facially came close to resembling "Suzy Kelly" played by Jean Marie Hon. Watching "Cry Lie" extremely carefully a few days ago, I noticed that the actress did speak one line. Coming home from work somewhat upset that a criminal had falsely linked him into taking a bribe, Chin Ho arrives to see his family. The oldest boy is on the telephone trying to chat with a girl his age. The rest of Chin Ho's 8 children, (the number stated by Kono later in this terrific episode) are either running around inside the house or watching television.

Believing that the kids should already have been in bed so late in the evening, Chin Ho asks them why they are still watching television. The eldest daughter replies back to Chin Ho that "Mommy said that we could stay up late"! It must not have been a school night.

In closely studying this young actress I feel that extrapolating how she would have gotten older over the 8 years from Season 2 to Season 10 that she could have grown facially, (losing the braces in her mouth, acne on her face and eyeglasses) to then be "Suzy" in Season 10 - out of college probably around 23 and no longer the awkward looking teenage kid. Instead she had become gorgeous regarding her looks and bent on helping 5-0 solve the murder of her father. I have no idea if the casting dept. possibly thought of the young actress from "Cry Lie" who played Chin Ho's eldest daughter, when they hired Ms. Hon to play "Suzy". But if so, they made an outstanding selection, in addition to the fact that Ms. Hon was an excellent actress in her role.

Irene Tsu, as "Alia" in Season 5's "Engaged" bore no facial resemblance to the younger girl in Season 2 or Suzy in "Death" which came out in Season 10. However, Ms. Tsu looking at her facial features carefully in the episode did indeed look as if she could have been Kam Fong's daughter. Same round face, eye features, nose, mouth and etc. So, that was great casting by 5-0 personnel to have hired Irene. As I stated in an earlier thread already by then, (although close to 30 years old in age when "Engaged" was aired and older than "Alia") Irene had had many years appearing in television/movie roles. She was in a 1963 Perry Mason episode that I am familiar with.

Irene did an outstanding acting job in her portrayal of the flawed "Alia". The reason why I say flawed is that Alia was madly in love with a guy in Rono Vidalgo, despite his overt criminal activities and repeated lies to her.

Simon Oakland in character as the angry, wronged individual seen in other 5-0 appearances, (and also in his most famous role as the racist cop "Shrank" in West Side Story) was a perfect choice for the role. It took until this episode, again listening to the lyrics carefully to find out that he had been previously shot by the cops, a reason for his disability. In his mind as the "Shako Vidalgo" character and despite the fact that he probably got shot in the course of committing a crime, he believed that it was entirely the cops fault that he got shot in the first place and still had the bullet lodged in his back. Thus his hatred for McGarrett, the team and really all cops.

I loved the poetic yet tragic nature of the ending. If Rono had simply decided to give up, surrendering to police and the 5-0 team that had him completely surrounded he would not have been killed. But no, Rono irrationally believed that he could escape successfully by plane, and taking Alia now his wife with him. Adding to the tension of the moment was when he then shot and killed the priest who several hours earlier had presided over his marriage to Alia. Also in his escape attempt Rono then dragged Alia out of the bedroom with a loaded gun placed next to her head. Alia loved this guy?

Alia again proved how flawed she was in her character regarding Rono. Despite the fact that it was proven, (words coming directly out of his mouth) that in a peripheral way Rono was responsible for the tragic death of Alia's best friend Judy, and her constantly being lied to by Rono stating that he had nothing to do with the Vidalgo family business, nevertheless kneeling over his dead body Alia still grieved over his violent death.

Alia's final line, uttered almost in a wail over Rono's dead body was, "You never could understand what Rono could have become", said to both McGarrett and her father. McGarrett retorted by saying, "No, but we all knew who he was"!

Great ending! One other thing that I noticed comparing Hawaii 5 -0 early years, (Season 2) through the middle years (Season 5) to close to the end Season 10. The background music heard in many different themes, (melodies) had become completely different by Season 10. And imo, much worse!!! "Death in the Family" was a great episode. But the background music did not resemble the thematic melodies and harmonies heard in the earlier seasons. I compared it to "Musak" typically heard in those mid-late 70' drama shows that dominated television at the time - Barnaby Miller, Kojak, The Streets of San Francisco, etc.

The music heard in Hawaii 5-0 Seasons 1 - 7, (perhaps 8) set it apart from other drama shows. In fact, I believe that the show won Emmy Awards for best music for a television drama during at least one season. Listening carefully you could hear thematic developments taking from the show's opening theme, (melody) heard in earlier episodes. I believe that on Mike Quigley's great site that he has a link to most of the familiar thematic melodies heard in episodes from Seasons 1 - 8 or so.

With my background in music, (Masters' degree) I was able to recognize in watching the episode that the thematic melody heard in "Engaged" was still taken from the original theme. But, featuring French horns above the orchestration, there was a slight dissonance to the melody and harmony which fit in perfectly with the script. A young lady is in love with a really bad character. Despite objection and counseling from her father and others, she will go on unwisely loving this guy. You could tell from the music that there would not be a happy ending to this episode, and the relationship that this young lady had with the guy. It's part of the reason why H 5-0 had reached near its zenith in quality by Seasons 5 - 6.

Perhaps in the latter years of the show, the directors/producers/music personnel were trying to continue to have 5-0 "evolve" by changing a lot of the background music. I kind of think that they made a mistake - trying to fix something that was never broken!

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Thanks for the detailed analysis Jeff. I agree that "Engaged to be Buried" is a great episode - it's one of my all-time favorites.

I am still looking forward to reading your thoughts on the Tenth Season opener, "Up the Rebels".

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This is my next post in the "Thoughts on Season 10" thread, and it does include *spoilers*.

You can read my comments on Disc 1 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299

You can read my comments on Disc 2 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=245814263#245814263

You can read my comments on Disc 3 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246026403#246026403

You can read my comments on Disc 4 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246392996#246392996

You can read my comments on Disc 5 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=246901727#246901727

You can read my comments on the first two Disc 6 episodes here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/245765299?d=247353800#247353800


For the first time this season, the streaming site I'm using has a complete disc of episodes. As a result, I hit the IMDb's length limitation and I'm posting this disc in two parts.


"A Stranger in His Grave"
No. in season: 23
Directed by: Richard Benedict
Written by: Arthur Bernard Lewis
Original air date: April 27, 1978

This episode, like "Shake Hands With the Man on the Moon" and "The Big Aloha" from earlier this season, deals with murder and sleazy land development. It also has more than a few similarities to Season 8's "A Killer Grows Wings", right down to the character names. In "A Killer Grows Wings" the female ranch owner is named Kate and the bad guy is named Chadwick. In "A Stranger in His Grave" the female ranch owner is named Katie and the bad guy is named Chadway.

Some thoughts and observations:

- This episode opens with what is probably stock footage of a burning cane field. Then at 1:50 a hard hatted worker sees the body of Frank Kealoha and says, "Hey Moe", but his delivery is off. It should have sounded more like this: http://www.hark.com/clips/wqpzbxvqhn-hey-moe

- At 7:55, we meet Alice (Barbara Bingham), Beaudine's (John Hillerman) secretary. She may be a "dumb broad" according to Beaudine, but she is very cute!

- There's an effective first act break. At 16:33, McGarrett says, "When that description of (missing Treasury Agent) Alan Sloan comes in, send it to the coroner. Maybe, just maybe, he's the stranger in Frank Kealoha's grave."

As you can probably tell from my relative lack of commentary, I found this episode unremarkable. Mike Quigley gives "A Stranger in His Grave" 1.5 stars out of 4 (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#237). But, I honestly can not say this is markedly inferior to the large number of two star episodes I've rated so far this season. I give "A Stranger in His Grave" two stars as well.


"A Death in the Family"
No. in season: 24
Directed by: Don Weis
Written by: Robert Janes
Original air date: May 4, 1978

This is the seventh episode this season written by Robert Janes, who's work has run the gamut from Excellent ("Up the Rebels"), to Good ("The Friends of Joey Kalima"), to Fair (everything else). Director Don Weis also directed the two episodes I just mentioned, so I'm hoping this one will finish Season 10 on a high note.

Some thoughts and observations:

- This episode opens promisingly with a well edited split-screen montage where Five-O and HPD crack down on various crimes including prostitution and drugs.

- Starting at 2:45, there's a meeting between two organized crime figures, Cappy Pahoa and Jimmy Rego. At 3:40, Rego speculates that, "Maybe this cop McGarrett wants to be governor." Interestingly, this is the second time this season we've heard this; the first was from reporter Terri O'Brien in "The Cop on the Cover". Pahoa replies (accurately), "Not McGarrett. He's never wanted to be anything but a cop."

- Starting at 4:13, there's a counterpoint meeting between HPD and McGarrett. McGarrett explains that the U.S. Justice Department has warned him that if Five-O doesn't clean-up the local crime syndicate, the kumu, the feds are going to move in and do it for them. Around the five minute mark, McGarrett refers to a color coded map of Oahu. I checked, and this is the same exhibit used by S.N. Savage during the briefing in Season 7's "A Gun for McGarrett". The yellow area that McGarrett says is "where the shakedowns are really taking place" was labeled as Kim's territory in the earlier episode.

- Starting at 7:15, Chin Ho, in disguise and undercover, meets with Jimmy Rego. Chin's cover is blown and he fights with Rego and his men. This is an excellent scene with great direction and performances.

- At the nine minute mark, a speeding car dumps Chin's body outside the Iolani Palace. I guess a dummy was used, but the body rolls convincingly; it's a chilling scene.

- From 9:23-11:12 there's a scene where Danno and Duke enter McGarrett's office and the three discuss the operation that led to Chin's death. Everything about this scene is first-rate: the music, the lighting, the performances.

- At 12:56, Elissa Dulce, pre-eminent Five-O babe, appears in the role of Pahoa's daughter Kini. I notice that she was really wearing her hair long in this episode!

- At 13:43, McGarrett meets Chin's daughter Suzy (Jean Marie Hon) who has just flown in from San Francisco. It's a good dramatic scene, but I'm starting to suffer from "meeting fatigue". C'mon, let's see "Lord Jack" kick some ass!

- At the sixteen minute mark, McGarrett pays Pahoa a visit. McGarrett tells Pahoa to "cut the bull" and warns him that he also has "friends in high places." It wasn't the beating I was looking for, but I'll take it!

- At 23:18, two of Rego's men, posing as workers for "Hawaiian Restaurant Supply" deliver two innocent looking blue pails to the kitchen of Yong Sen's Chop Suey. Yong Sen was Chin's informant, who later agrees to help Danno and Duke. Of course, a pail explodes when Yong Sen opens it. I can't say I was completely surprised, but it was a very effective act break.

- At the twenty-six minute mark, a great exchange between McGarrett and Rego:

REGO: Listen cop. Don't make any threats, OK?

MCGARRETT: You listen. Don't you ever call me "cop". The name is "McGarrett" and the title is "Mister."


This was a key scene that helped inspire this thread. As ringfire211 noted in "Thoughts on Season 9 --- BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!",

You're unfortunately missing one of the best pieces of dialogue from a furious Steve to the snotty-nosed punk Jimmy Rego (Reni Santoni) in the season 10 finale episode "A Death in the Family". Steve drills Rego in his office with the spine-tingling "Don't you ever call me 'cop'. The name is McGarrett and the title is MISTER." Oh yeah!! Rego was the punk who killed Chin Ho. It's an even better scene than the one with Sam Wailua in this episode. I suggest you check out that episode. It's great! Even in season 10 and beyond McGarrett still delivered when/where it counted.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?d=245576884#245576884


I don't know if I agree that this scene is stronger than the similar one in "Man in a Steel Frame", but it's right up there with it.

- From 30:19 to 31:03, we see Kini Pahoa and Suzy pool side in bathing suits. Nice!

- At 33:30 Pahoa tells Rego, "I want you out of McGarrett's way. And Jimmy boy, you have a choice. You can go first class 747, or in an oil drum in the hold of some freighter." This episode certainly has its share of quotable dialogue!

- Freeze-frame at 33:53, and you'll see what is supposed to be Elissa Dulce's naked body through the frosted glass. Oh if only this was a current series on HBO! 

- At 36:32, oh wow! They're going to try to shoot McGarrett with a shotgun!

- At 39:45, what the hell is Suzy doing? Listen to McGarrett and leave this to the professionals, honey!

- So at 41:11 Suzy discovers the gun that killed her father. I've got to wonder why McGarrett didn't get a search warrant for Rego's apartment and at least try to find it first. And I've got to wonder what Rego's lawyer is going to say in court about how this evidence was obtained, if it ever gets to that.

- At 44:24 Iolani does the old Che Fong routine of, "OK Steve, take a look." Sorry, but nobody could deliver that line with more conviction than Harry Endo!

- Danno gets pretty trigger happy during a raid on Rego's house. Starting at 47:21, he seems to fire nine shots from a six shot revolver!

- At the forty-eight minute mark McGarrett jumps Rego and delivers a beating so savage the director decided to partially hide it behind a palm tree! Don't you ever call him "cop". The name is "Jack" and the title is "Lord!"  This climactic scene is available on Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcm91wmFm4Q

In conclusion, now that's more like it! I was leaning toward giving this episode three stars (as Mike Quigley did), but that ending tipped my rating to three and a half stars. This episode may have started as a gimmick to increase ratings, but this storyline inspired greatness in every department. The result is the best episode of the season!


Season 10 Recap:

In my final Season 9 recap I wrote,

I am now dead set in my resolve not to purchase, or even rent, any more Five-O DVD sets. The decline in quality I was told to expect in Season 10 actually happened this season.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/board/thread/217656622?d=222001627#222001627


And I actually managed to see 75% of Season 10 without spending a cent above my usual Internet bill! So to address the 800 pound gorilla in the room, yes, I made the right call by not buying the Season 10 DVD set. Even if the audio/video quality was up to the same standard as earlier seasons (which it wasn't), IMO the Season 10 set would not be worth owning.

There were a few good episodes, and some of the lesser ones had their moments. But when I was watching Five-O in syndication, my local station never aired any Season 10 episodes; they stopped at Season 8. This was probably because the series' decline began in Season 9, and continued into Season 10, by which time Hawaii Five-O had truly become a shadow of its former self. Overall, the Tenth Season is synonymous with repetition and mediocrity, along with a complete lack of edgy stories (except perhaps for the season finale).

As James "Danno" McArthur noted in an interview before his death:

Why did you leave Hawaii Five-O before it ceased production? Do you ever wish you'd stayed on for the final season?

Quite frankly, I grew bored. After Leonard Freeman died, the series began to stagnate. It had started out very fresh and 'cutting edge' with stories and villains relevant to the times, but this did not continue once he was gone. The stories became more bland and predictable and presented less and less challenge to me as an actor. I haven't seen much of the 12th season, but no, I don't have any regrets about leaving when I did.

http://www.jamesmacarthur.com/FAQ/FAQ.shtml


IMO, it took a while for that stagnation to set in, but by Season 10 it was clearly there. Here is my season-end ratings comparison for Seasons 8-10:


Season 8 Season 9 Season 10
Excellent 48% 43% 17%
Good 48% 30% 28%
Fair 4% 9% 56%
Poor 0% 17% 0%
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100% 100% 100%


I remember when the Season 9 cover art (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/HawaiiFive0_S9.jpg) was publicized. I took one look at the volcano in the background, and wrote on this forum that, since it was the last good season, they were going out with a bang.

Now, having seen enough to give a fair assessment, I have created my own Season 10 cover art:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa419/alpha128_imdb/Five-O%20DVD%20Covers/Season10.jpg

Please disregard the product links under the picture - those are Photobucket's doing - not mine.

In conclusion, I would like to say "Mahalo" (thank you) to ringfire211 for inspiring me to look for Season 10 episodes on-line, for prompting me to start a season 10 thread, and for supporting me throughout the process.


Season 10 - My Rankings and Ratings:

Best Episodes I've seen

1. "A Death in the Family" (3.5 stars)
2. "Up the Rebels" (3 stars)
3. "The Cop on the Cover" (3 stars)

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"Frozen Assets"

Either the initial temperature is wrong (absolute zero is -459.67 degrees Fahrenheit) or they are mixing and matching temperature scales.

I'm sure it's the latter. Continuity issues and other goofs have been a staple of this fine series from the beginning. 

Does that mean Kwan Hi Lim was the Attorney General in real life at the time?

The only information I could find on Mr. Lim (heh, Mr. Lim?) regarding this is that he was a lawyer and a per diem judge for the Family Court system in Honolulu. Nothing about an Attorney General. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwan_Hi_Lim

- There's a very funny moment starting at 32:55 when Duke tells McGarrett that an apparently revived patient must have been smoking his last cigarette before he passed out. McGarrett incredulously responds, "What have you two been smoking?"

 Yep! That's a classic!! Much better than his "Moneybags" line. 

Also "You're out of your gourds!" and Danno "watched the whole procedure with, pardon the expression, icy detachment". (rimshot)  FIVE-0 does comedy!

Before I give my rating for this episode, I have to note that, according to one viewer:

("Hawaii Five-O") jumped when the producers, desperate for guest stars other than Don Stroud, hired aging, ex-Rat packer Peter Lawford to play a demented doctor.

This statement seems ridiculous to me. Peter Lawford? So what? We had Rich Litte in the previous season! Plus he wasn't just an "ex-Rat Packer" but an actor. It's not like they cast Wilt Chamberlain or Paul McCartney! On THE ROCKFORD FILES we saw Isaac Hayes playing a recurring ex-con buddy of Jim Rockford's. Sure, he was a famous singer at the time but he was also an actor in those blaxploitation films that were popular during that time. If they had cast Muhammad Ali that might have been a different story. I don't see it too much as "stunt casting" or "jumping the shark".

I also have to note that Mike Quigley says the episode is "pretty good" and gives it 2.5 stars out of 4 (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#235).
Personally, I would call this yet another two-star Season 10 episode that recycles plots from previous, and better, Five-O shows.

I lean more towards Mr. Mike's rating. I think it's a very solid *** episode. I realize that it recycles heavily from "Retire in Sunny Hawaii" and it's not as good as that episode. Still, it does what it does well and succeeds with the "sleuthing septuagenarian" storyline thanks to a great performance from the always reliable Mildred Natwick. She returns again in this fine role in season 11's "The Spirit is Willie" (which used to be a big favorite of mine as a kid). I would go as far as to say that her performance was my favorite season 10 performance from a guest star (yes, better even than Stephen Boyd's in "Up the Rebels").

This episode falls just outside of my top 5 for the season. If the season is going to give us less edgy and more light-hearted fare then I much prefer that it be an episode like this one or "Invitation to Murder" (both have a certain MURDER, SHE WROTE feel to them) as opposed to "Tread the Moneybags' Shadow".

Both "Retire in Sunny Hawaii -- Forever" and "Once Upon a Time" are on my favorite episodes list (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls005352325/), and "Frozen Assets" suffers by comparison.

I can respect the serious drama and strong acting (primarily from Lord Jack) in "Once Upon a Time" but it's an episode I rarely feel compelled to visit. It just doesn't have that FIVE-0 vibe. It feels like a completely different show. I would easily choose "Frozen Assets" to rewatch.

P.S. I'm surprised you missed some more great comedy with Miss Shand calling the Governor "sonny".  The best part is when McG asks the Gov about "sonny?" and the Gov replies that he "was a very good-natured, happy kid".  Gets me every time! Priceless! McG keeps on grinning until Gov asks him "what are you grinning at?" This whole scene is probably my favorite between McG and Gov. And how about that ending with McG eavesdropping from behind the door when Miss Shand tells the Gov "don't be childish, sonny" after he admonishes her for calling him "sonny"?  Thinking about it I realize that this is a much better episode than I always gave it credit for. I realized this when I watched it last year.

Also, I really liked the score by John Cacavas. Most of his scores (season 10 and onwards) were pretty bland and generic but this one was the exception. If you listen to it as the episode opens it has a certain British flavor to it with an air of mystery about, a la Agatha Christie or MURDER, SHE WROTE.


"My Friend, the Enemy"

- This episode opens with footage of the good old Aloha Tower.

Back in 2008 when I visited Oahu I made sure to stop by the Aloha Tower and the Marketplace. I went all the way up and stood on the balcony of the Tower, where Wo Fat memorably stood in "F.O.B. Honolulu"!

- At the five minute mark Danno mentions seeing Labella on "The Mike Douglas Show" which was a real TV show at the time.

This might be of special interest to you and perhaps you have already seen this in the past. Here is a video (in 3 parts) of Lord Jack on the Mike Douglas show circa 1969! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXm41pKQ9Bc This is a real treat! It's a very interesting and rare opportunity to see the very private Jack Lord appearing as a guest on a variety show or conducting an interview of any sort. Around the 7:30 mark of that clip he talks about how well received the show is by the local Hawaiians and even mentions that on last week's show "Yaphet Kotto did a beautiful job" (obviously referring to "King of the Hill").

At 7:48 he grins at her and gushes that she is "absolutely right." McGarrett notices and warns Danno at 8:25 "not to mix business with pleasure."

Danno: "You know me, Steve".
Steve: "Yeah that's exactly why I mentioned it to you"

There's another great one in season 11's "A Distant Thunder" - about Danno fooling around in the back seat of a car. 

- At 37:18, Duke, sans glasses, walks into McGarrett's office. There's a touching scene as McGarrett says, "It's good to see you safe my friend" and Duke responds, "It's good to see!"

Yep, always liked that scene. There's a similar touching scene in season 11's "Stringer", again with Duke. Poor Duke.

- At 45:22 that is none other than George "Moneybags" Cameron (James B. Sikking) in a police helicopter looking for a red van. No doubt this is community service in exchange for wasting McGarrett's time and taxpayer money

GRROOOAAAN!!! Moneybags should just be exiled to that forbidden island of the natives. With Uncle Noah and David and Debbie and anyone else who made my eyes bleed when I watched that sorry mess. Woof...

- At the end of the episode McGarrett steals Labella away from Danno, stating the old Navy maxim, "Rank has its privileges." Felix Leiter dating Fiona Volpe? The mind boggles!

Indeed! Who would have thought, eh?? Ah, if only Danno had been played by David Hedison.

Also, I always get a kick out of McG's line "I never argue with a lady" after she tells him she behaved like an idiot. 

In conclusion, "My Friend, the Enemy" is definitely better than the typical Season 10 show. 2.5 stars out of 4 and I concur.

I concur as well. In fact it's probably closer to 3 stars for me. I'd say it's on par with "The Cop on the Cover", which was also penned by Gerry Day and also featured a strong-willed female character bucking horns with Lord Jack. Out of the 3 episodes scripted by Gerry Day the weakest was definitely "The Big Aloha".


"A Stranger in His Grave"

In "A Killer Grows Wings" the female ranch owner is named Kate and the bad guy is named Chadwick. In "A Stranger in His Grave" the female ranch owner is named Katie and the bad guy is named Chadway.

I always saw this as a sort of sequel to the previous episode and thought this is the same Kate/Katie from the other episode. You'll note this time it's Laraine Stephens (from "Beautiful Screamer" and "Death is a Company Policy") playing Kate/Katie. You will also note that she resides at the Anderson Estate in Waimanalo ("Robin's Nest" on MAGNUM, PI) which was featured numerous times on this show. Curiously, Nelson Bodine lives there too!  It's especially humorous seeing John Hillerman "at home" at "Robin's Nest" during the scene where that chick is giving him a massage by walking on his back.

- At 7:55, we meet Alice (Barbara Bingham), Beaudine's (John Hillerman) secretary. She may be a "dumb broad" according to Beaudine, but she is very cute!

Yes, she is! When she takes the letter to the post office for Higgins, err, Bodine, the music that plays is by Richard Markowitz from "The Cop on the Cover" (when Henry Darrow leaves the ransom money on the bus). It plays during all the post office scenes here.

Mike Quigley gives "A Stranger in His Grave" 1.5 stars out of 4. But, I honestly can not say this is markedly inferior to the large number of two star episodes I've rated so far this season.

I agree. 1.5 is way too low. Mike seems to be having bad days when reviewing certain episodes (like this one or "When Does a War End?" or "Angel in Blue"). There is nothing about this episode that is any worse than, for example, "Head to Head" which he gave an unusually high rating. I'd actually give this one 2.5 and it's better than I remembered it from a long time back. Maybe I just like stories with cane fields in them. Remember "Pray Love Remember" and "Is This Any Way to Run a Paradise?"? Not to mention the prequel () "A Killer Grows Wings"!


"A Death in the Family"

- Starting at 2:45, there's a meeting between two organized crime figures, Cappy Pahoa and Jimmy Rego.

I think both Manu Tupou (as Cappy) and Reni Santoni (as Rego) gave very good performances and deliver some snappy dialogue. Cappy in particular, as head of the Kumu (later to be headed by Tony Alika, played by Ross Martin), had some really good lines and just the way he delivered those lines was really cool - in a slow and thoughtful/careful sort of way. Reni Santoni of course was "Dirty Harry" Callahan's first partner Chico Gonzalez in the original DIRTY HARRY! As well as Poppy on SEINFELD.

Around the five minute mark, McGarrett refers to a color coded map of Oahu. I checked, and this is the same exhibit used by S.N. Savage during the briefing in Season 7's "A Gun for McGarrett".

Wow! How did you ever manage to pick up on that??? Wait, let me guess - photogenic memory! Bingo!

- Starting at 7:15, Chin Ho, in disguise and undercover, meets with Jimmy Rego. Chin's cover is blown and he fights with Rego and his men. This is an excellent scene with great direction and performances.

Yes, very strong scene. Great performances all around!

- At the nine minute mark, a speeding car dumps Chin's body outside the Iolani Palace. I guess a dummy was used, but the body rolls convincingly; it's a chilling scene.

As you say, CHILLING!! As well as the reaction from the Five-0 team from the balcony.

- From 9:23-11:12 there's a scene where Danno and Duke enter McGarrett's office and the three discuss the operation that led to Chin's death. Everything about this scene is first-rate: the music, the lighting, the performances

Indeed. This scene is absolute perfection! Top marks all around! The quiet before the storm.

- At 12:56, Elissa Dulce, pre-eminent Five-O babe, appears in the role of Pahoa's daughter Kini. I notice that she was really wearing her hair long in this episode!

See? This episode is ALREADY working like gangbusters for ya!

- At the twenty-six minute mark, a great exchange between McGarrett and Rego:

REGO: Listen cop. Don't make any threats, OK?

MCGARRETT: You listen. Don't you ever call me "cop". The name is "McGarrett" and the title is "Mister."

 YEEEAHHHH!!! YA GOT THAT, PUNK??!! DO YOU FEEL LUCKY??? WELL, DO YA???

It's simply the best McG vs. perp office scene! We haven't seen an office scene like this since... well... NEVER!

I don't know if I agree that this scene is stronger than the similar one in "Man in a Steel Frame", but it's right up there with it.

Oh, it's definitely stronger. For me, at least. It seems much more personal here. Sam Wailua was just a middle man. If it was Malcolm Vaughn standing in front of McG maybe that would have been a different story. Here it's Chin's murderer himself standing in front of McG, and Lord Jack is very hungry!

At 39:45, what the hell is Suzy doing? Listen to McGarrett and leave this to the professionals, honey!

That balcony jump was crazy!!

So at 41:11 Suzy discovers the gun that killed her father.

Extra bonus points for Suzy for retrieving the gun with a metal object to preserve finger fingerprints. Benefits of being a cop's daughter. Speaking of Chin's daughter whatever happened to Alia from "Engaged to be Buried"? I guess the writers forgot about her. We didn't need Suzy here, we had Alia.

At 44:24 Iolani does the old Che Fong routine of, "OK Steve, take a look." Sorry, but nobody could deliver that line with more conviction than Harry Endo!

Quite true. Plus those classic one-liners. "Very clever. And you're not even Chinese".

Danno gets pretty trigger happy during a raid on Rego's house. Starting at 47:21, he seems to fire nine shots from a six shot revolver!

When you piss off the Five-0 squad by killing one of their own, extra bullets magically appear in their revolvers! YEAH BABY!!

At the forty-eight minute mark McGarrett jumps Rego and delivers a beating so savage the director decided to partially hide it behind a palm tree!

 And yet there's not a mark on him. I understand this was 1978 and on network TV (there wasn't any other kind) but still... I would have liked to have seen some bruises on Rego. That's why I'm a bit mixed on this climax - it's nowhere close to the rage that we saw McG unleash on Malcolm Vaughn ("The Most Interesting Man in the World") in season 9's "Man in a Steel Frame". Considering that Chin meant so much more to us fans (and we hope to McG as well) than Cathi ever did, I was expecting a more satisfying conclusion. In fact if this was an earlier season episode then I have no doubt that McG would have shot the bastard stone cold dead, like he did many perps. But in 1978 when there was a big crackdown on TV violence and THE LOVE BOAT was teaching us to cuddle and kiss I guess this was the best we could have hoped for. The other problem is Rego's complete split-second transformation from hardened killer to sniveling cry-baby. I mean I know it's Lord Jack that is gnashing his teeth at you but c'mon, man, show some back bone, will ya??!! I found this much more out of character here than when Thayler turned into a cry-baby in "The Bells Toll at Noon". So yes, while I do enjoy the ending here and it's always a satisfying experience to see Lord Jack menacing a punk with a gun while sneering at him, I can't help but feel we could have witnessed something more powerful here. It's hard not too feel that way when you keep remembering a rabid McG pounding the daylights out of Vaughn while trying to drown the bastard! I do like McG's last lines though, "Danno, hold it. I wanna book this one. I think Chin would have liked that". Indeed he would.

In conclusion, now that's more like it! I was leaning toward giving this episode three stars (as Mike Quigley did), but that ending tipped my rating to three and a half stars.

I can agree with both you and Mike on this one. Generally I see this one as a *** episode but with each rewatch it seems to get better for me. I think it's well on its way to 3.5 stars. Perhaps it could have used a stronger ending but the story itself is strong enough and both Reni Santoni and Manu Tupou (gotta love Cappy!) deliver very good performances. Come on, that office scene! Oh, man!! And no Moneybags in sight doing any kind of community service from the skies above. Thank Pele!

Now, having seen enough to give a fair assessment, I have created my own Season 10 cover art:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa419/alpha128_imdb/Season10.jpg

 With just a little more effort you could have strapped a pair of water skis to Lord Jack and had him jumping over that thing! Just to drive the point home. But wait, what happened to Duke? Don't tell me Squirmin' Herman tried to jump the shark but was unsuccessful... 

Now you simply MUST watch seasons 11 and 12 because I'll be chomping at the bit to see your DVD artwork for those seasons! 

In conclusion, I would like to say "Mahalo" (thank you) to ringfire211 for inspiring me to look for Season 10 episodes on-line, for prompting me to start a season 10 thread, and for supporting me throughout the process.

Ain't no big t'ing, bruddah! Mahalo to you as well for countless hours of entertainment. I hope this isn't "pau" for you and I hope you continue to the sweet bitter end until it's "Woe to Wo Fat". If you need a small break I can dig it, brah.


My top 5 for season 10 would be (roughly):

1. Tsunami (3.5 stars)
2. A Death in the Family (3 - 3.5 stars) -- this one just went up to #2 as of now (from #4)
3. Deep Cover (3 stars)
4. Angel in Blue (3 stars)
5. Up the Rebels (3 stars)


Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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"Frozen Assets"

Does that mean Kwan Hi Lim was the Attorney General in real life at the time? - alpha128 (me)


The only information I could find on Mr. Lim (heh, Mr. Lim?) regarding this is that he was a lawyer and a per diem judge for the Family Court system in Honolulu. Nothing about [being] an Attorney General. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwan_Hi_Lim - ringfire211


Maybe he was playing a lawyer from the office of the Attorney General, as opposed to the Attorney General himself.


This episode falls just outside of my top 5 for the season. If the season is going to give us less edgy and more light-hearted fare then I much prefer that it be an episode like this one or "Invitation to Murder" (both have a certain MURDER, SHE WROTE feel to them) as opposed to "Tread the Moneybags' Shadow". - ringfire211


I mentioned "Murder, She Wrote" in the first draft of my comments. But I cut all that when I read, on Mike Quigley's site, that Mildred Natwick played essentially the same character on an earlier series called "The Snoop Sisters" that I never heard of.

I love your nickname for Episode #226. That's a keeper! 


"My Friend, the Enemy"

This might be of special interest to you and perhaps you have already seen this in the past. Here is a video (in 3 parts) of Lord Jack on the Mike Douglas show circa 1969! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXm41pKQ9Bc This is a real treat! - ringfire211


No, I've never seen it. I never watched Five-O first-run. I first saw it in syndication fifteen years later. But I've heard of "The Mike Douglas Show" because my father's first cousin was married to a director on that show. I'll have to watch that and see if I can spot his name in the credits.


"A Stranger in His Grave"

In "A Killer Grows Wings" the female ranch owner is named Kate and the bad guy is named Chadwick. In "A Stranger in His Grave" the female ranch owner is named Katie and the bad guy is named Chadway. - alpha128 (me)


I always saw this as a sort of sequel to the previous episode and thought this is the same Kate/Katie from the other episode. You'll note this time it's Laraine Stephens (from "Beautiful Screamer" and "Death is a Company Policy") playing Kate/Katie. - ringfire211


I suppose it's possible if Frank Kealoha was Kate Holbrook's second husband. But I view this as more a remake than a sequel, although they do actually call her "Kate" instead of "Katie" at one point in the episode.

At first I didn't recognize that it was the same actress from "Beautiful Screamer", but now that you point it out, I do.


Mike Quigley gives "A Stranger in His Grave" 1.5 stars out of 4. But, I honestly can not say this is markedly inferior to the large number of two star episodes I've rated so far this season. - alpha128 (me)


I agree. 1.5 is way too low. Mike seems to be having bad days when reviewing certain episodes. I'd actually give this one 2.5 and it's better than I remembered it from a long time back. - ringfire211


I think Mike does have a point about the episode being overly complicated. But Chadway's plane vs. McGarrett's car near the end was well done.


"A Death in the Family"

I think Manu Tupou (as Cappy) had some really good lines and just the way he delivered those lines was really cool - in a slow and thoughtful/careful sort of way. - ringfire211


Agreed. He used that slow and methodical delivery as he explained to Rego he could just as easily travel to Europe in an oil drum, and it was very effective.


Speaking of Chin's daughter whatever happened to Alia from "Engaged to be Buried"? I guess the writers forgot about her. We didn't need Suzy here, we had Alia. - ringfire211


That's a good question. Chin was also shown to have numerous children in Season 2's "Cry Lie" (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log2.htm#43) and they aren't mentioned in this episode.


At the forty-eight minute mark McGarrett jumps Rego and delivers a beating so savage the director decided to partially hide it behind a palm tree! - alpha128 (me)


And yet there's not a mark on him. I understand this was 1978 and on network TV (there wasn't any other kind) but still... I would have liked to have seen some bruises on Rego. In fact if this was an earlier season episode then I have no doubt that McG would have shot the bastard stone cold dead, like he did many perps. But in 1978 when there was a big crackdown on TV violence and THE LOVE BOAT was teaching us to cuddle and kiss [so] I guess this was the best we could have hoped for. - ringfire211


Yes, there was a big crackdown on TV violence. It's apparent that a non-violent episode like "Tread the Moneybags' Shadow"  was made with that in mind. So while there were no bruises on Rego, compared to other Season 10 episodes, this one is brutal. We even got a scene where Iolani tells McGarrett that Rego shot off the back of Chin's head. Thank goodness Chin's body landed face up in front of the palace!


Now, having seen enough to give a fair assessment, I have created my own Season 10 cover art:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa419/alpha128_imdb/Five-O%20DVD%20Covers/Season10.jpg - alpha128 (me)


With just a little more effort you could have strapped a pair of water skis to Lord Jack and had him jumping over that thing! Just to drive the point home. But wait, what happened to Duke? Don't tell me Squirmin' Herman tried to jump the shark but was unsuccessful... - ringfire211


The shark picture I used as a background did not have as wide an aspect ratio as a real DVD cover (approximately .63 versus .70). So while Duke was originally in the picture, he was overwritten with "Lord Jack". Sorry Duke, nothing personal, it's seniority.


Now you simply MUST watch seasons 11 and 12 because I'll be chomping at the bit to see your DVD artwork for those seasons! - ringfire211


I've created a monster!  I'm already working on a Season 11 cover. And it's going to be awesome! 


I hope this isn't "pau" for you and I hope you continue to the sweet bitter end until it's "Woe to Wo Fat". If you need a small break I can dig it, brah. - ringfire211


I'm not finished. But I am going to a take a break and recharge my Five-O batteries before I embark on the next season. I've got Season 4 of "Person of Interest" to watch, and other things to do that I've neglected. By this winter when it's cold and snowy here, I should be ready to go back to the warm and sunny islands.

My top 5 for season 10 would be (roughly):

1. Tsunami (3.5 stars)
2. A Death in the Family (3 - 3.5 stars) -- this one just went up to #2 as of now (from #4)
3. Deep Cover (3 stars)
4. Angel in Blue (3 stars)
5. Up the Rebels (3 stars) - ringfire211



The comparable list for me would be:

Season 10 - Top 5 Episodes I've seen

1. "A Death in the Family" (3.5 stars)
2. "Up the Rebels" (3 stars)
3. "The Cop on the Cover" (3 stars)
4. "The Friends of Joey Kalima" (2.5 stars)
5. "Angel in Blue" (2.5 stars)

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I love your nickname for Episode #226. That's a keeper!

Then I shall proceed to use it forthwith!  You have your "Diary of the Dumb" and I have my "Tread the Moneybags' Shadow".

No, I've never seen it. I never watched Five-O first-run. I first saw it in syndication fifteen years later. But I've heard of "The Mike Douglas Show"

I didn't mean if you saw this interview with Jack Lord back in the day when THE MIKE DOUGLAS SHOW originally ran. I meant that maybe you saw this YouTube clip previously since it has been circulating for a while. I highly suggest watching all 3 parts - very interesting and rare to see Jack doing an interview and speaking on a variety of different topics! I believe the other guests with Jack were actress/dancer Gwen Verdon and 3-time Oscar winning screenwriter Paddy Chayefsky (of NETWORK fame).

I suppose it's possible if Frank Kealoha was Kate Holbrook's second husband.

Was Holbrook her last name in "A Killer Grows Wings"? I don't even recall. I thought she was Kate Kealoha there too. But maybe you're right.

But Chadway's plane vs. McGarrett's car near the end was well done.

True that!

Also, I hope you recognized Andrew Prine playing Chadway. Previously Prine played the hitman Wally Hatch in season 8's "Target? The Lady". Lots of returning guest stars here. John Hillerman too! In addition to the already mentioned Laraine Stephens.

Agreed. He used that slow and methodical delivery as he explained to Rego he could just as easily travel to Europe in an oil drum, and it was very effective.

Yep, that was great! He needed to speak extra slowly so that it would sink in for "Jimmy Boy". 

That's a good question. Chin was also shown to have numerous children in Season 2's "Cry Lie"

Yes, I do recall him having many kids. But I recall one older daughter and that was Alia. I guess Suzy here is supposed to be Alia. I know it would be asking for too much (of the writers) to actually have all of Chin's kids show up at his funeral, but they could have at least been consistent with the one kid that they're bringing back. It's not even the same actress, which is fine. But at least get the name right!

I've created a monster! I'm already working on a Season 11 cover. And it's going to be awesome!

Yep you sure have! And I can't wait! 

By this winter when it's cold and snowy here, I should be ready to go back to the warm and sunny islands.

Sounds good! Perhaps I'll get to finish my review of season 9. It sure has been dragging on...


Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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I didn't mean if you saw this interview with Jack Lord back in the day when THE MIKE DOUGLAS SHOW originally ran. I meant that maybe you saw this YouTube clip previously since it has been circulating for a while. - ringfire211


No, I hadn't seen it on Youtube either. Although I did see some clips from "A Death in the Family" on Youtube before I saw the entire episode.


"A Stranger in His Grave"

I suppose it's possible if Frank Kealoha was Kate Holbrook's second husband. - alpha128 (me)


Was Holbrook her last name in "A Killer Grows Wings"? I don't even recall. I thought she was Kate Kealoha there too. But maybe you're right. - ringfire211


I haven't watched the episode recently, but both the IMDb and Mike Quigley's site say her last name was Holbrook.


Also, I hope you recognized Andrew Prine playing Chadway. Previously Prine played the hitman Wally Hatch in season 8's "Target? The Lady". Lots of returning guest stars here. John Hillerman too! In addition to the already mentioned Laraine Stephens. - ringfire211


Hillerman was the only one I recognized as a returning guest star as I watched the episode. Even now I'm struggling to remember Andrew Prine's earlier appearance. I guess my "photogenic memory" has its limits!


"A Death in the Family"

I recall one older daughter and that was Alia. I guess Suzy here is supposed to be Alia. I know it would be asking for too much (of the writers) to actually have all of Chin's kids show up at his funeral, but they could have at least been consistent with the one kid that they're bringing back. It's not even the same actress, which is fine. But at least get the name right! - ringfire211


I agree. This continuity error must be another casualty of all the turnover in the production staff this season. Douglas Green who had been a director, then producer, then executive producer was gone by then. The same was true for long-time producer James Heinz. By the season finale you had relatively new producers Fred Baum and Andrew Gottlieb, as well as producer Buck Houghton who had joined the series mid-season. So in addition to the incorrectly named Governor Phil, we get the incorrectly named Suzy.


I've created a monster! I'm already working on a Season 11 cover. And it's going to be awesome! - alpha128 (me)


Yep you sure have! And I can't wait! - ringfire211


Wait no more. The Season 11 cover is here: http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa419/alpha128_imdb/Five-O%20DVD%20Covers/Season11.jpg

And I've created a new album and put both my Season 10 and Season 11 covers there: http://s1196.photobucket.com/user/alpha128_imdb/library/Five-O%20DVD%20Covers


By this winter when it's cold and snowy here, I should be ready to go back to the warm and sunny islands. - alpha128 (me)


Sounds good! Perhaps I'll get to finish my review of season 9. It sure has been dragging on... - ringfire211


I look forward to reading your next essay.

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Even now I'm struggling to remember Andrew Prine's earlier appearance. I guess my "photogenic memory" has its limits!

Prine gave a pretty interesting performance in that one. He's the one who killed Susan Dey's boyfriend and then he and his partner Kimo-sabe ( as he called him) spent the rest of the episode chasing her down.

Wait no more. The Season 11 cover is here:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa419/alpha128_imdb/Five-O%20DVD%20Covers/Season11.jpg

 Danno and Duke doing the Nazi salute as the volcano is about to bury them?? Yikes! Can't imagine what's in store for season 12. A 3-headed shark jumping over a wheelchair-bound McGarrett while Duke and Truck are getting stoned? 

I take it you are somewhat familiar with the Nazi-themed episode "A Distant Thunder"? Not to worry, it's one of the best from season 11. It may be ridiculous to encounter Nazis in Hawaii but you can rarely go wrong with a Nazi plot. MAGNUM, P.I. also had a Nazi-themed episode.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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Wait no more. The Season 11 cover is here:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa419/alpha128_imdb/Five-O%20DVD%20Covers/Season11.jpg - alpha128 (me)


Danno and Duke doing the Nazi salute as the volcano is about to bury them?? Yikes! Can't imagine what's in store for season 12. A 3-headed shark jumping over a wheelchair-bound McGarrett while Duke and Truck are getting stoned?  - ringfire211


All of the real covers (http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/fiveo-stuff.htm) have three separate elements: a Hawaiian-themed background, a large photo of McGarrett, and a team photo with white lines at the top and bottom.

Perhaps I should have used a different background color behind Danno and Duke to better indicate that is a separate element?

As for why I used that photo of Danno and Duke, I found the original on Mike Quigley's site here: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/distant/distant2.jpg. I guess I could have used this one that makes it clearer that they are clowning around on the set: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/distant/distant3.jpg. But it was clear to me that the first photo was a joke and I used it in the spirit in which it was intended. The fact that Chin Ho is represented by a tombstone in the team photo is also intended as a joke.

As for why I used that background, knowing Season 11's reputation, I did an image search for "Hawaii going downhill" and that photo came up. It's actually a screen capture from a Youtube video called "11/12/2014 -- Hawaii Lava Flow reaches Transfer Station -- Flowing downhill to Road": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHO389dvj6Y


I take it you are somewhat familiar with the Nazi-themed episode "A Distant Thunder"? Not to worry, it's one of the best from season 11. It may be ridiculous to encounter Nazis in Hawaii but you can rarely go wrong with a Nazi plot. - ringfire211


I know only the basic premise: that Danno goes undercover to infiltrate a Nazi group. I haven't seen the episode yet.

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But it was clear to me that the first photo was a joke and I used it in the spirit in which it was intended.

Oh I've no doubt about that. It's clear to me as well. I knew it had to be an outtake from "A Distant Thunder" but I couldn't remember where I had seen it. Until you provided that link. Jimmy was well known for clowning around on set (as long as Lord Jack wasn't around of course ), as were Kam, Zulu, Herman, and others I imagine.

I know only the basic premise: that Danno goes undercover to infiltrate a Nazi group. I haven't seen the episode yet.

Yep, Danno gets involved with "Nutsies", as he calls them. 

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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I know only the basic premise: that Danno goes undercover to infiltrate a Nazi group. I haven't seen the episode yet. - alpha128 (me)


Yep, Danno gets involved with "Nutsies", as he calls them. - ringfire211


I did also watch this clip on Mike Quigley's site: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/season11/distantthunder.htm

Given Danno's use of the "N-word", it looks like this might be an edgier episode than was typical for Season 10.

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Given Danno's use of the "N-word", it looks like this might be an edgier episode than was typical for Season 10.

That's true! Well, except for maybe "A Death in the Family".

My favorite season 11 episode "The Skyline Killer" is also edgier than anything we saw during season 10.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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My favorite season 11 episode "The Skyline Killer" is also edgier than anything we saw during season 10. - ringfire211


I checked and fortunately both "A Distant Thunder" and "The Skyline Killer" are available on the streaming site.

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Death in the Family review:

Hey Alpha and ringfire,

I finally watched Death in the Family just now. I actually first saw it streaming on Netflix about 5 years ago. Goes to show you that often you miss so much of what goes on in any television episode the first time. I took a bunch of notes on this occasion.

I agree with both of you: Death in the Family was without question one of the best episodes of Season 10. I have it as #1. Admittedly I have not watched any episodes from Seasons 11 and 12. We all know how bad they were. So, it might not be too far out on the limb with my statement that perhaps this episode was the last truly great episode of the series until it ended in the spring of 1980.

Here are my thoughts:

Was Chin Ho Kelly seen in a moustache in "disguise" in his undercover role? It's too bad that Chin Ho's answer to specific landmark locations in S.F. was off. He incorrectly misidentified the location of a restaurant to Rego just before he got killed - all because Rego was quite familiar with the city. So, Rego knew that Chin Ho was not who he said he was, but instead a cop. Glad that we did not see Chin Ho get executed on screen especially as it was revealed he got shot at close range right into the back of his head.

Okay regarding Chin Ho's daughter Susie. I'm going to take it that she was the eldest of his daughters. Chin Ho, from the episode "Cry Lie", eldest child was actually his son Tim. There was several other kids, but the next oldest was his daughter.

I know that back during that time period and not owning Season DVD's, fans of the show would not have caught onto the fact that the girl in the Season 2 episode, Chin's daughter in the Season 5 episode "Engaged to be Buried" - "Alia", and "Suzie" in Season 10's "Death in the Family" supposedly the same daughter in actuality could not have been. They weren't even close to the same female human being - even considering the aging process through the years.

The actress who portrayed "Alia", Irene Tsu, did not even closely resemble Jan Marie Hen as "Suzie". Again being familiar with past season episodes with their availability as DVD's, one can now remember these little tidbits. Back in the 1970's it would have gone unnoticed and something that the show's producers/directors/script-writers/cast-agents probably were aware of.

As a matter of fact Irene Tsu as my other favorite television show has also been "Perry Mason" (1957-66), appeared in an episode back in 1963 although she was not the defendant, victim, or perpetrator. Ms. Tsu was 29 the year she appeared in "Engaged", quite a bit older than Ms. Hen who was born in 1955, (and still alive is two years older than I am).

In fact Jan Marie Hen was only 22 years old the year that "Death" first aired. I can only guess that her character was slightly older than the actual age of the actress. Ms. Hen did a fine job in her character portrayal as Chin Ho's daughter. She acted, despite McGarrett's warning, as the amateur detective in this episode. Like father, like daughter. Snooping around in Rego's hotel room Suzie actually found out what turned to be the murder weapon that had killed her father.

I didn't know that Chin Ho's wife had died, mentioned by Suzie to McGarrett at the airport upon her arrival. Mike Q. bought this up in his analysis of the episode. I simply don't remember that fact, (along with a lot of other stuff) when I first watched this episode 5 years ago. No mention about "Tim" the oldest child who back during the Cry Lie episode seemed to have a bit of a strained father/son relationship with Chin Ho. I remember that Chin Ho himself mentioned this to McGarrett in that episode.

Elissa Dulce graced this episode with her acting and beauty being the daughter of Cappy Pahoa, the Hawaiian head of the crime syndicate. Her "Kini" character also was the girlfriend of Rego the individual who in cold blood murdered Chin Ho.

Holy smokes at the 30 minute mark seeing the sight of the then, (estimating) late 20's age Elissa in a bikini at the hotel pool caused me to stop the vid and re-watch it a few times. My word she was gorgeous!! Her character "Kini" could have picked a better boyfriend then that punk Rego, but hey we're all human.

For that matter Jan Marie as Elissa's character's former college school friend was equally a knockout in that bathing suit shortly after emerging out of the hotel pool. Nice dive into the pool that Suzie executed as well!

I like Elissa's one dramatic scene as "Kini" with her father "Cappy" late in the episode. Taken along with Elissa's performance in the Season 7 episode "We Hang Our Own" in my opinion the two together were her two most dramatic appearances of any H 5-0 episode that she appeared in - one where Elissa proved that she was a fine actress. Her other performances were good - especially in "Banzai Pipeline" where she got to mouth off to McGarrett in his office. But I loved Elissa's performance in "Death", having really looked at it closely for the first time.

I still feel so incredibly honored that I had the chance to talk to Elissa back in August of 2013 for the 10 - 15 minutes that we spent together on the phone. Elissa is class personified!!!!! I was thinking of moving to Hawaii for years and I would have asked Elissa to act as my realtor. However in researching the cost of homes/condos, one needs to be very rich to buy anything even remotely nice out there. I saw several homes listed at minimum 1 million dollars and I almost passed out in shock!

Back to my analysis: In the office seen between McGarrett and Rego, I got the feeling that Steve would have beaten the living daylights out of that punk right then if he could. As it was barely being able to retain his anger as Rego completely disrespected him, McGarrett had to ask Danno to come in and remove him out of his office - before Steve did something that he would later regret.

And, again not noticing this the first time specifically, but in reality it was Cappy who gave up Rego as the murderer. Cappy told McGarrett of his exact location where he could be arrested, (or shot dead by police) - a hideaway shared by Rego and Kini. Turns out that Cappy not only did not want his daughter to go off to Europe with her boyfriend, (the original idea to get Rego away from McGarrett); but also he realized that killing Chin Ho really was bad for the entire Hawaiian crime syndicate and that Rego had to take the fall.

McGarrett did promise that one day in the future he would come after Cappy. Wonder if this happened during any Season 11 or 12 episode? Not that I care. The episode if indeed it was filmed probably reeked anyway- as did 99.9% of those two final season episodes.

The final scene on the beach proved that Rego was nothing but a punk. The wimp practically was about to relieve himself in his pants with McGarrett taunting him. McGarrett ended up giving Rego a beating, which could have been worse if Steve had not been able to control himself entirely. Instead taunting him verbally and quite angry, Steve bought up the fact to Rego how it must have been for Chin to have a loaded gun waved in his face along with the threat of having the trigger pulled.

Classic last line with McGarrett telling Danno that for once he would have the honors of "booking" and arresting Rego instead of Williams. McGarrett stated in the final sentence that Chin Ho would have liked it better that way.

I found this to be a great episode - at least 3 and a half stars in my opinion. Quite worthy to be a fine episode which marked Kam Fong's last appearance in the show!

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"A Death in the Family"

Hey Alpha and ringfire,

I agree with both of you: Death in the Family was without question one of the best episodes of Season 10. I have it as #1. - Jeffman61


Yes, there's a clear consensus between Ringfire and I that "A Death in the Family" is the best Season 10 episode available for free streaming.


Okay regarding Chin Ho's daughter Susie. I'm going to take it that she was the eldest of his daughters. During that time period, fans of the show would not have caught onto the fact that the girl in the Season 2 episode, Chin's daughter in the Season 5 episode "Engaged to be Buried" - "Alia", and "Suzie" in Season 10's "Death in the Family", who were supposedly the same daughter, in actuality could not have been. The actress who portrayed "Alia", Irene Tsu, was 29 the year she appeared in "Engaged", quite a bit older than Jan Marie Hen who was only 22 years old the year that "Death" first aired. - Jeffman61


Good catch. I didn't compare their ages and realize the age difference between the two actresses. Continuity on Five-O wasn't the strongest even in the best of times, and Season 10 wasn't the best of times. There was a lot of turnover in the production office that year, and continuity was one of the casualties. In addition to the Alia/Suzy problem, there were two Season 10 episodes you missed where the Governor was incorrectly referred to as "Phil/Phillip" instead of "Paul Jameson".


Elissa Dulce graced this episode with her acting and beauty. My word she was gorgeous!! For that matter Jan Marie as Elissa's character's former college school friend was equally a knockout in that bathing suit. - Jeffman61


No argument here! 


I like Elissa's one dramatic scene as "Kini" with her father "Cappy" late in the episode. Taken along with Elissa's performance in the Season 7 episode "We Hang Our Own" in my opinion the two together were her two most dramatic appearances of any H 5-0 episode that she appeared in - one where Elissa proved that she was a fine actress. Her other performances were good - especially in "Banzai Pipeline" where she got to mouth off to McGarrett in his office. But I loved Elissa's performance in "Death", having really looked at it closely for the first time. - Jeffman61


I like all the performances you mentioned, but my favorite is her role as "Maru" in "Honor Is an Unmarked Grave" (1975).


McGarrett did promise that one day in the future he would come after Cappy. Wonder if this happened during any Season 11 or 12 episode? - Jeffman61


Mike Quigley says no to that:
McGarrett's final words to Pahoa are, "One day we'll meet again," which unfortunately never happens.
http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/5-0log10.htm#238



I found this to be a great episode - at least 3 and a half stars in my opinion. Quite worthy to be a fine episode which marked Kam Fong's last appearance in the show! - Jeffman61


Agreed. I was sorry to see Chin Ho's demise, but this episode was a fitting farewell for the character.

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Alpha,

Getting back to the aspect regarding Chin Ho's eldest daughter "Suzie", it could almost be stated that comparing Jan Marie Hen (Season 10) with the unnamed actress in Season 2's "Cry Lie" that they could easily be thought of as being the same person. The actress portraying Chin Ho's daughter in "Cry Lie" appeared to have been around 14 years old, face full of acne/pimples being a young teenager and well as eye glasses as seen in the several scenes that she was in watching television. Except for Tim, the oldest child and this girl, all the rest of Chin Ho's kids appeared to be much younger.

So, fast forwarding 8 years, this could have been the same young woman as a character being Chin's oldest daughter. In 1978 she would have been all grown up and out of college; in addition to her obviously blossoming regarding her physical beauty, (face cleared of teenage pimples) as well as loosing the eye glasses.

It's just that Irene Tsu, "Aila" as Chin's eldest daughter in Season 5's "Engaged to be Buried" bore absolutely no physical resemblance to the girl from Season 2's episode and later Suzie from Season 10.

Ms. Tsu actually did an outstanding job in her one appearance with that one episode. "Aila" kept falling for her boyfriend/fiancee/husband "Rono", (Erik Estrada) and his lies to her. Rono indeed was always involved in the criminal Vidalgo family business along with his brother and father, (played by Simon Oakland in another brilliant yet typical "angry-man performance") despite his denials to Alia. Aila was simply so naive in constantly believing whatever lies rolled out of Rono's mouth - a young, immature girl so much in love!!

Rono was even indirectly responsible for the death of Aila's best friend in the scene where she was in her old, junk Ford Falcon right after getting out of her new job working in that bowling alley when an out of control car with a bomb inside it crashed into the vehicle. Too bad that this gal had to stop and study herself in the mirror, thinking that she might need more lip-stick, rouge on her face, re-brush her hair, etc. If she had inserted the key into the ignition and immediately tried to start up her car, then backed it out of the parking slot what happened to her in that fury accident would not have taken place.

Yet "Aila" still kept falling for Rono's lies when he stated that both he or his family had absolutely nothing to do with the girl's violent death. Sad how Aila ended up married to Rono for probably only a couple of hours, (seen in bed together) before McGarrett, the team, and his own brother tried to persuade him into surrendering. Instead Rono ended up being shot to death with Aila becoming a widow on the same day that she got married. Hopefully Aila would have learned something by this and gotten her act together involving potential future boyfriends.

No doubt the original H 5-0 was quite different from the current 5 - 0 with the fact that there was little or no plot continuity regarding the episodes as they aired one after the other. So, "Aila" in Season 5 became "Suzie in Season 10. Back then most people probably would not have caught on.

Just for the heck of it in the next few days, (one week before first college football and later the NFL start up for the fall) I'm going to go back and re-watch both "Cry Lie" and "Engaged to be Buried".


I like all the performances you mentioned, but my favorite is her role as "Maru" in "Honor Is an Unmarked Grave" (1975) - Alpha



Yes, and I admit to seemingly always forgetting about that episode from Season 8. In a way taking in the entire plot, it probably was Elissa's, (as Maru) most controversial character of any episode that she appeared on the show. Maru was impregnated as a 16 year old teenager, done so in secrecy being the daughter of the servant on the estate. The estate owner's grandson, (I believe) was the father of Maru's baby only he himself was murdered.

Addressing teenage pregnancy, especially considering the manner in which it happened in this episode as a subject back in the mid-70's was almost ground-breaking. More so since H 5-0 appeared in prime-time.

A great performance on Elissa's part with Maru raising this son, and later being married to a man in Paul Kanahele, (played by Gerald Wailae also Elissa's character's husband in "We Hang Our Own) who I don't believe that she truly loved. Powerful episode and performances by all, including Elissa!

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I like all the performances you mentioned, but my favorite is (Elissa's) role as "Maru" in "Honor Is an Unmarked Grave". - alpha128 (me)


Yes, and I admit to seemingly always forgetting about that episode from Season 8. In a way taking in the entire plot, it probably was Elissa's, (as Maru) most controversial character of any episode that she appeared on the show. Maru was impregnated as a 16 year old teenager, done so in secrecy being the daughter of the servant on the estate. The estate owner's grandson, (I believe) was the father of Maru's baby only he himself was murdered.

Addressing teenage pregnancy, especially considering the manner in which it happened in this episode as a subject back in the mid-70's was almost ground-breaking. More so since H 5-0 appeared in prime-time. - Jeffman61


I still have my "Thoughts on Season 8" about this episode saved on my hard drive:

At the 29:36 mark, it is revealed that the rich Brian Henderson, who was 22 at the time, fathered a child with a 15 year old girl, Maru. At the 46:33 mark, we learned that Brian raped Maru. I was thinking that, two seasons removed from the death of Leonard Freeman, Five-O had dispensed with the edgy material of earlier seasons. This episode, and the one that follows, proves that I was wrong. - alpha128 (me)


A great performance on Elissa's part with Maru raising this son, and later being married to a man in Paul Kanahele, (played by Gerald Wailae also Elissa's character's husband in "We Hang Our Own) who I don't believe that she truly loved. Powerful episode and performances by all, including Elissa! - Jeffman61


Yes indeed!  You mentioned you were going rewatch both "Cry Lie" and "Engaged to be Buried". I'm going to rewatch "Honor Is an Unmarked Grave" in the not too distant future.

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Admittedly I have not watched any episodes from Seasons 11 and 12. We all know how bad they were.

Jeffman, as you yourself just pointed out, you have not watched any of those episodes. So you don't really know how bad they are. Or if they are indeed bad.

So, it might not be too far out on the limb with my statement that perhaps this episode was the last truly great episode of the series until it ended in the spring of 1980.

Personally for me there are at least 2 (maybe even 3) episodes from season 11 that I prefer to "Death in the Family".

McGarrett did promise that one day in the future he would come after Cappy. Wonder if this happened during any Season 11 or 12 episode?

No, Cappy never made a return appearance. The new head of the Kumu became Tony Alika (played by Ross Martin of TV's THE WILD, WILD WEST fame) who made 4 appearances total - 2 in the 11th season and 2 in the 12th season.

Not that I care. The episode if indeed it was filmed probably reeked anyway- as did 99.9% of those two final season episodes.

Again, this seems like a very blanket statement to make, especially if you haven't seen a single episode. You can't just go by Mr. Mike's ratings. In fact he gives some high marks for some of the episodes during those seasons too. The 12th season opener even gets 4 stars from him (which I don't necessarily agree with him on). Other episodes, on the other hand, that he gives lower ratings to I rate much higher. It all depends from person to person. For the record, there are quite a few posters on Mr. Mike's site who prefer season 11 to season 10. I think maybe even Mr. Mike himself. So you can't just assume that every episode from the last 2 seasons "reeks". By that logic all of season 10 should have "reeked" too (yes, even "Death in the Family") because we all agreed a long time ago that the show jumped the shark somewhere between seasons 9 and 10 and that the last 3 seasons were basically "crap". These are just broad generalizations. You shouldn't just refuse to watch something because of something someone else said. Check it out for yourself. Be inquisitive. I sure would be and always am. It's still Lord Jack's FIVE-0! 

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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For the record, there are quite a few posters on Mr. Mike's site who prefer season 11 to season 10. I think maybe even Mr. Mike himself. - ringfire211


By my calculations, Mr. Mike's ratings for Season 10 average out to 2.3 stars out of 4, while his ratings for Season 11 average out to 2.2 stars. So actually, he indicates a slight decline.

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By my calculations, Mr. Mike's ratings for Season 10 average out to 2.3 stars out of 4, while his ratings for Season 11 average out to 2.2 stars. So actually, he indicates a slight decline.

I think it may have been something Mr. Mike said when he watched his season 11 DVD. Either that he enjoyed watching it more than his season 10 DVD (no doubt the video quality had a lot to do with this) or that some of the material in season 11 was more edgy than in season 10. Of course I could be mistaken and it might have been someone else on his discussion forum who said this so don't quote me on it.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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Ringfire,

There's no need for you to be snarky in your response to my posts! I had gotten sick of participating in forums such as this one for the very fact that people today just seem to lack a level of respect for one another. So I issued my opinion that Seasons 11 and 12 are bad. It's my decision which I am entitled to. There simply is no need for you to take such offense for what I said. For crying out loud there are more important things in the world!!

I don't participate on Mike Q's forum for that very reason. Several years ago, some individual and I disagreed over the premise of a classic episode from Season 6 "One Big Happy Family". I have seen that episode so many times that I've practically memorized the entire dialogue. This individual and I disagreed over the final scene and basically he was wrong. However this individual decided to make it personal. He decided to post some truly disrespectful thoughts towards me in his final thread. After telling this individual to basically go jump in a lake I left that board. Who needs aggravation in one's life coming from angry people in the world as they find nothing wrong in attacking people from behind the safety of their computer monitor?


I came back to this forum at the recent invitation of Alpha- indeed one of the few individuals who I have gained a lot of respect for in the years. Before that, I felt that I basically had said all that I needed to say about this great show going back now over a half decade.

The thing is that Alpha and I NEVER showed any type of anomosity towards each other at any point in the exchange of our dialogue. Every now and then Alpha and I did disagree on episodes, characters, plot development, etc. Yet at no time did one individual ever post a disrespectful, snarky, and disingenuous response issued in a thread towards the other person.

BTW, again ringfire if I choose not to view any seasons past #10, that's my business. I don't have to check them out wasting time or to be in your words "inquistive". I do vaguely recall seeing at the time a few Season 12 episodes as they aired in 1979-80, including that series finale episode - the last scene featuring Wo Fat and McGarrett. Sorry but it was not something that would go down as being a "classic" ending.

By that final season, the show was not even in the same stratosphere in terms of quality dating back to H 5-0's peak years (roughly Seasons 4 - 8). All of the long-time regulars were gone except for McGarrett and Duke, (James MacArthur bailing out after Season 11, Kam Fong the finale of Season 10) and being replaced by William Smith and Sharon Ferrell on the team. Really? Sorry not the same as McGarrett, Chin Ho, Danno, Kono, (Seasons 1 - 4) and Ben Kukuo, (Seasons 5 - 7).

So later ringfire! I'll just consider your direct response to my last thread as one coming from an individual who gets entirely bent out of shape over really trivial matters, such as my statement about Seasons 11 and 12. Try going out every now and then, smelling the flowers and breathing some fresh air. The world is not classic Hawaii 5-0, all the time, 24/7!

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Jeff,

I think you misinterpreted Ringfire's post. I think he was merely suggesting that you're missing out on some Season 11 episodes that you would enjoy. This thread exists because he suggested the same to me regarding Season 10, and he was right!

In any event, I plan to check out Season 11 on-line this winter. And I can once again function as the "icebreaker" and send you the links to the Season 11 episodes I found worthwhile. Although our tastes don't perfectly coincide, I think they are close enough that if I liked a particular episode, you will probably like it.

P.S. Thank you for the compliments, and please don't be hard on Ringfire. I'm sure he meant no insult to you.

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It's my decision which I am entitled to. There simply is no need for you to take such offense for what I said.

Jeffman, of course you're entitled to your own opinion. And at no point did I take offense to anything that you wrote (as you say it's just a TV show). I didn't think I was being snarky in the least. I merely disagreed with your statement, which is something that I think you and me both should be okay with. It's perfectly okay to disagree with each other.

For instance, I can say that the original PERRY MASON was a crappy show. Oh, and by the way, I haven't seen a single episode of that show. You'd be right in calling me out on making such a statement if I hadn't seen a single episode. I have a right to make that statement but that doesn't mean it would be an accurate statement for me to make until I sat down to actually watch the show. That's all.

Again, sorry if you took slight to what I wrote. It certainly wasn't my intention to offend you. I merely disagreed with something you wrote which I think should be no problem between 2 posters on IMDB.

Carry on... 

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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Hi guys,
Based on Alpha's so kindly providing me with the links to streaming Daily Motion vids of a handful of Season 10's best episodes I have begun watching them. I now feel that I can begin commenting on these episodes.

I previously have seen the Season finale "A Death in the Family" about 4 years ago. I have yet to watch it a second time. However I remember that this was the episode in which Chin Ho Kelly's character was murdered. The most babalicious, (borrowing Mike Quigley's term) H 5-0 actress Elissa Dulce made an appearance both as Chin Ho's eldest daughter's friend as well as the daughter of the character that 5-0, (incorrectly as it was proven) had something to do with Kelly's death. I will have to see it one more time to reacquaint myself with the episode before posting my thoughts.

Right now, I wanted to comment on two other episodes: The first of which is "Cop on the Cover". The episode really was Steve McGarrett, (Jack Lord) in a nutshell regarding his character. In a scene in the Governor's office, I had never seen McGarrett so disrespectful of his boss after being told that he must cooperate with a newspaper reporter who wanted to write up a feature on the 5-0 head.

McGarrett wanted no part of being the subject of a write up feature which would reveal his job duties as head of 5-0. Unfortunately for Steve it was not his choice as the Governor overruled all objections loudly stated by McGarrett.

How interesting it was that back in his office, McGarrett initially assumed that this reporter played by the noted actress Jean Simmons, ("The Robe", "Elmer Gantry", "Spartucus") was a male right before meeting her. When he found out that "Terri O'Brien" was a female the sexist McGarrett kicked into full gear. In several Season 8 and 9 episodes most notably with the recurring female cop character Officer Sandi Wells, (Amanda McBroom) McGarrett had little belief that a woman could do a police officer's job nearly as effectively as a man. McGarrett can be thankful that these episodes were filmed back in the mid-late 70's and not 2015. Today with his male chauvanist attitude Steve McGarrett probably would be brought up on harrassment charges regarding his disdain of females in the work force as well as his annoying use of the words "honey" and "missy" when in conversation with them. Any male repeating those words in today's corporate environment to a female co-worker would quickly find himself out of a job!

I had one major issue with the bus scene. How easy was it for the viewer to realize that after Henry Darrow's, "Stewart Longworth" character left the ransom money underneath his seat and immediately got off of the bus after one stop, that Josie Over's character was involved in the kidnapping? After Longworth got off of the bus, Josie's character seconds later moves from her seat in the back of the bus and sits down in the recently occupied seat. She then reaches underneath and takes the money. Couldn't the script writers have put at least some mystery into it by re-writing that entire scene? As example: Josie is on the bus, but you never actually see her make a move for the money? Therefore you don't find out immediately that she is in on the scheme and instead have the belief that Moe Keale the bus driver was a part of the kidnapping and ransom demand. Watching a "mystery" like that scene today in any network television show would guarantee at least this person to reach for the remote and change the channel - never to watch that particular show ever again.

This was Moe Keale's best performance in his many appearances on H 5-0. He did a great job portraying a character almost at wit's end, being blamed by law enforcement solely because of his criminal record of doing something that he had absolutely nothing to do with ( thanks to the brilliant script-writing in which viewers immediately knew that Josie Over was a part of the kidnapping and ransom demand). "Guilty until proven innocent" - a very flawed principle regarding justice and our basic civil rights in the U.S. and a prominent theme to this episode. This also occurred to an even greater extent in the second one "Friends of Joey Kalima" that I will discuss below.

Getting back to the Terri O'Brien character. She proved equal to the task of trying to do her job in getting to know McGarrett, despite his level of unwilling cooperation and sexist attitude towards her as a woman. Yet, Terri's character threw barbs being tossed tossed by the chauvanistic McGarrett right back on his lap. In the end however, attempting to be the "super-reporter" it almost got her killed when Josie Over's character and her co-conspirator in the crime caught Ms. O'Brien in the act of snooping around where she had no business being. McGarrett and Danny got there in the nick of time to not only capture the culprits but save Ms. O'Brien's skin as well.

2). "Friend of Joey Kalima" I did not like this episode as much as others have reviewed it. Mike Quigley states that the episode went downhill about midway through. To me it went downhill when, acting on a tip coming from Jimmy Borges' record shop character owner's "Marco", Joey Kalima, (John Rubenstein) was arrested at a Hawaiian lua party thrown by long-time friends. This was within the first 10 minutes of the episode. Hwan Hi Lim's "Keoki" character was placing illegal book-making bets in the same house in which this party was being held, completely unknown to Joey. And yet, acting on this tip Kalima was immediately arrested and soon to face severe disciplinary charges, (upgraded to murder charges when the "Teo Rodriguez" character was violently killed) led by an overly aggressive prosecutor "Bernie Fryer" played by Alan Oppenheir. I find it difficult in the real world involving police officer work today that a cop such as Kalima would almost be considered guilty before being proven innocent, (uttered by McGarrett acting in his defense) in a criminal investigation and hearing.

Kalima is later photographed by Fryer's lackeys innocently talking to his good friend and Keoki outside of his home. Holy smokes, something bad must have been exchanged in that verbal conversation, caught on film. Send Kalima to prison for 20 years and throw away the keys before he even gets his chance to prove himself.

It's funny that nowadays Seth Sakai's character, Jimmy Borges and that 3rd conspirator never would have had "an entire weekend" to take their time and clean that entire bank out. Banks back then closed up shop for the weekend on Friday at about 4 - 5 pm. Not the case today with many banks now open on Saturdays.

I also wanted to provided what almost was an interesting tidbit that I found out about the beautiful Elaine Giftos who portrayed Lily Kalima, Joey's wife. In doing research coming from her bio, Ms. Giftos was born in 1945 in Pittsfield Massachusetts. After my father graduated from Boston University in 1959, my parents, (along with then 2 year old me) moved to his very same town in Mass. living there until late spring of 1962.

Ms. Giftos had both a musical and dance, (ballet) background growing up. I do not know if she still lived in Pittsfield in 1959. However, I originally entertained the notion that my father who in his first job beginning in the fall of 1959 was a junior high school chorus music teacher might possibly have had a then 14 year old Elaine in one of his classes. I then thought about it, (with both of my parents now being deceased) and realized that this incredible coincidence did not actually occur all of those years ago. I remember being told at some point in my life that my father from the fall of 1959 - June of 1962 actually taught junior high school music in the neighboring town of Dalton, Massachusetts right next to Pittsfield.

I ended up liking "Up with Rebel" the best of the episodes from Season 10 that I have been watching this week. I want to re-watch it a second time before posting my thoughts on this excellent episode. So far, I'd give "Rebel" 3 and a half stars. It was better than "Cop on the Cover" - 3 stars in my book and "Friend of Kalima" only worth 2 stars as rated by me.

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Jeff, let me be the first to say, "Welcome Back!"

"The Cop on the Cover"

How interesting it was that back in his office, McGarrett initially assumed that this reporter, played by the noted actress Jean Simmons, was a male right before meeting her. When he found out that "Terri O'Brien" was a female the sexist McGarrett kicked into full gear. McGarrett can be thankful that these episodes were filmed back in the mid-late 70's and not 2015. Today with his male chauvanist attitude Steve McGarrett probably would be brought up on harrassment charges regarding his disdain of females in the work force as well as his annoying use of the words "honey" and "missy" when in conversation with them. Any male repeating those words in today's corporate environment to a female co-worker would quickly find himself out of a job! - Jeffman61


The topic of McGarrett's sexism is also a big part of the episode "Angel in Blue". That episode found its way onto both my and Ringfire's Top 5 lists, despite being poorly reviewed by Mike Quigley.


I had one major issue with the bus scene. How easy was it for the viewer to realize that Josie Over's character was involved in the kidnapping? Couldn't the script writers have put at least some mystery into it by re-writing that entire scene? As example: Josie is on the bus, but you never actually see her make a move for the money? Therefore you don't find out immediately that she is in on the scheme and instead have the belief that Moe Keale the bus driver was a part of the kidnapping and ransom demand. Watching a "mystery" like that scene today in any network television show would guarantee at least this person to reach for the remote and change the channel - never to watch that particular show ever again. - Jeffman61


I didn't have a problem with that particular scene. I don't think we were meant to wonder if Josie Over's or Moe Keale's characters were guilty or innocent. The big twist of the episode is that (spoiler alert!) the "victim" of the kidnapping plot, Stuart Longworth (Henry Darrow), was actually a co-conspirator. We were supposed be surprised by that (worked for me), and wonder if bus driver Joe Moala would be found innocent in time. Near the end there, it looked like Moala might not live long enough to be exonerated.


This was Moe Keale's best performance in his many appearances on H 5-0. He did a great job portraying a character almost at wit's end, being blamed by law enforcement solely because of his criminal record of doing something that he had absolutely nothing to do with. - Jeffman61


Yes, Keale had a lot of screen time in this episode and he made the most of it!


"The Friends of Joey Kalima"

I did not like this episode as much as others have reviewed it - only worth 2 stars as rated by me. - Jeffman61


As I've written many times, rating movies and television episodes is subjective. Two stars versus two and 1/2 or three is a pretty minor difference.

If you look at the ratings of Mike Quigley, myself, and ringfire211, you see that some Season 10 episodes resulted in serious differences of opinion:


MJQ Alpha Ringfire
226 "Tread the King's Shadow" 1.5 2.0 0.0
232 "Angel in Blue" 1.5 2.5 3.0
233 "When Does a War End?" 0.0 2.0 3.0

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as well as his annoying use of the words "honey" and "missy" when in conversation with them. Any male repeating those words in today's corporate environment to a female co-worker would quickly find himself out of a job!

I'll have to respectfully disagree. I think political correctness is what is strangling society these days. There is absolutely nothing wrong with referring to a girl as "honey" or "hun" or any other such sweet reference. I think if I were a girl I'd appreciate that. It's a heck of a lot better (and certainly classier) than having guys call girls "hey dude" or "yo" or any other sort of thing they call them these days. What's weird is that many girls don't seem to mind being called this at all. To me it just seems all wrong. Call me old-fashioned (even though I'm still fairly young) but things seemed much better between men and women back in the day. When a man would hold a girl by her arm (even if she wasn't his girlfriend) as he walked with her I see that as a sign of being a gentleman, not a sign of disrespect or chauvinism as some do. Folks need to chill out a bit today, I think.

Just my 2 cents.

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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Now I'm the one who has to disagree, ringfire. In today's work environment if a male were to call a woman "honey", whether it be in a factory setting, (blue collar) or in a corporate office (white collar) chances are he would risk the danger in losing his job and especially if she were to report it to administration. And by all means you'd be absolutely crazy to call your female boss "honey" under any circumstances and not if you valued your job. You'd be on the receiving end of a pink slip before you would know it. Or if you're really lucky and it's your first offense instead face suspension for a few weeks with the loss of pay.

Yes, you can call it political correctness but nevertheless it's a product of our environment today in which anything even remotely having a sexual element to it in words or physical actions against women is deemed often highly offensive.

Unless you really, truly believe that the woman in question would not be offended or if you're actually dating her; addressing a woman as "honey" or "hun" is definitely not appropriate. It's the year 2015, not circa 1972 when a Steve McGarrett could get away with calling a female insubordinate, (Officer Sandi Wells as I mentioned in my earlier thread) "honey". you don't hear the 2015 version of Steve McGarrett in today's H 5-0 calling a woman "honey" when addressing her - his co-worker Kono immediately coming to mind. I'm sorry ringfire, it's just not appropriate in today's world and especially in America!

It has nothing to do with you're requesting that folks "chill out". It has to do a lot with the amount of news you hear on tv, radio and in social media almost on a daily basis regarding men enacting physical and sometimes sexual violence against women especially here in the U.S. Women are demanding respect and that men be held accountable both for their actions (physical) and/or words that come out of their mouth.

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Now I'm the one who has to disagree, ringfire. In today's work environment if a male were to call a woman "honey", whether it be in a factory setting, (blue collar) or in a corporate office (white collar) chances are he would risk the danger in losing his job and especially if she were to report it to administration.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I do know instances where males call females "hon" at work (in a white collar setting) and it's all good. The females don't seem to mind. I think it's an overstatement to just assume that every woman is waiting to scream "Sexual harassment!!" as soon as a guy calls her "honey". It also depends on the woman. Some might give you a certain look or raise their eyebrows at you. Others will take it in good spirits.

It also depends how you use that word. If you're trying to put a woman "in her place" by calling her "honey" in a condescending manner (as in "listen, honey" or "listen, missy") then yeah of course you're going to look like a jerk. But if it's just a friendly "honey" then I don't see anything wrong with it. It's a pretty casual thing. Again, it also depends on the woman.

I'm sorry ringfire, it's just not appropriate in today's world and especially in America!

There are plenty of things which today's world and today's media will have you believe are inappropriate. That doesn't make it right. There are also things the media tries to force down our throats as "appropriate" or "acceptable" when I personally find these things inappropriate and unacceptable.

It's all down to your own character and your own beliefs. Obviously I'm not going to go and throw around insulting comments just because I can. Every person has his/her moral compass that he/she follows. But I don't worry about being PC and I haven't had any problems. You gotta be true to yourself and not worry about what the media "teaches" us.

Did you know that apparently the word "midget" is offensive? Who knew?

Connery, Moore, and Brosnan! Accept NO substitutes!

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How interesting it was that back in his office, McGarrett initially assumed that this reporter, played by the noted actress Jean Simmons, was a male right before meeting her. When he found out that "Terri O'Brien" was a female the sexist McGarrett kicked into full gear. McGarrett can be thankful that these episodes were filmed back in the mid-late 70's and not 2015. Today with his male chauvanist attitude Steve McGarrett probably would be brought up on harrassment charges regarding his disdain of females in the work force as well as his annoying use of the words "honey" and "missy" when in conversation with them. Any male repeating those words in today's corporate environment to a female co-worker would quickly find himself out of a job! - Jeffman61


Terri is a unisex name, so it's not strange for McGarrett to have assumed that she was a he. A chauvinist is a person who shows an attitude of superiority to members of the opposite sex. I don't see McGarrett showing a superior attitude to women in general because they are women. I see him showing a superior attitude to women - and men - who act like rudely, incorrigibly, and impede an investigation, which is what Terri did. McGarrett certainly did not display a superior attitude towards every woman he encountered, only the ones who were hostile and acted in a superior or bitchy manner to him.

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