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Was it really like this in the late 1960's early '70's?


I've been watching a lot of Adam 12 on Netflix and I've noticed that almost every time Reed and Malloy come in contact with a group of teens or early 20 somethings they always get referred to as "Stormtroopers" or "Gestapo". I was watching the episode where Malloy was taking college courses and he was invited to a rally by some students and as soon as they found out he was a cop they immediately withdrew their invitation and started calling him "pig" and "fuzz". I know the late 60's was a turbulent time, but was this a common occurrence then?

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If you know what the 60's were about and are aware how many young people were against the establishment, inlcuding police, isn't kind of obvious?

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I was just wondering if that's how things really were or if they just decided to "embellish" things a bit for the sake of drama.

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Don't expect serious discussion from the pompous ass known as mactach. He's just looking to spout off his little longer than and less clever than fortune cookie type replies.

I was just a kid back then, but my sister was on college campus at the time - Mid West - similar to Kent State. Cops and authority figures were generally mis-trusted. And yes - IMO - they would have withdrawn the offer to attend the rally upon learning he was a cop. "PIG" and other terms were used, but often in conjunction with very foul language. When edited for TV of the time - it does sound almost child like. But in the day, the way they REALLY spoke to and referred to cops - it came across pretty hateful.



Post is MY OPINION. Don't look for spelling/grammar errors as this isn't a PhD Thesis.

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True enough. Hence the term "The Silent Majority".

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I've always wondered if the 60s and early 70s were really the way as portrayed on Adam-12 and other media or do they infact just over exaggerate for drama. Now Adam-12 has a good amount of reality and maturity to it, at least compared to something as banal as The Brady Bunch from that same time period.

I grew up in the 80s and 90s, and these young kids and teenagers today often think everyone in the 80s looked like Madonna, Michael Jackson or Don Johnson and that everyone in the 90s was a grunge head. So people often get silly notions of past decades, it's helpful when people who were actually old enough to be there to straighten things out.

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I don't know why the hell you'd compare a sitcom with a cop show and if you're so doubtful what the times were like back when A-12 was produced, ask someone who was around back then.

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I've only recently discovered Adam-12. Most of my previous TV viewing from the 1960s and early 70s revolved around sitcoms that had nothing to do with reality. i.e., Brady Bunch, I Dream of Jeannie, etc. Now I do remember seeing Hawaii Five-O in reruns as a kid in the 80s and 90s but I was too young to get into such a series so I didn't pay it much mind.

So it's pretty cool for me to see a TV series that showed a far more realistic take on the world from the same era as Mike and Carol Brady. Adam-12 has still got it's melodrama and some goober comedy, but it's light years away from what I'm used to coming out of circa 1967 or so.

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I grew up watching Adam-12 and was in my adolescence when the show ended so I really only have "child" memories of the show. I've read retrospectives of it, though, and much of it rings true - the intent was to portray law enforcement officers as being realistic and honorable, and for the most part, Adam-12 succeeded. There was an amusing survey done some years back (you could probably google search terms for it) that indicated that many young cops in the 70s credited Adam-12 with their own adherence to procedure during arrests, such as remembering to Mirandize a suspect, and how to properly frisk a subject for weapons.

Many of A-12's were just about the everyday happenings of a cop shift - "from the tragic to the trivial." I just finished watching an episode that included child abuse and rape/kidnapping, so it definitely wasn't glossed over. Life in the 60s and 70s is definitely somewhat idealized in the show but it's pretty real. I *am* old enough to remember when police were referred to a "pigs" and some teens and young adults would actually make pig faces and snort at them. However, police "restraint" wasn't as well-managed in real life as it was in the show, and, IIRC, police brutality was a big problem then, particularly because it was felt by most people that they couldn't do anything about it.

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Actually, what the 60s "were about" according to the reflections of movies, television, and news reports and what reality was are entirely separate things.

The whole "hipple" counter-culture, hard rock music, drug abuse, etc. were never anywhere near the majority experience for youth, regardless of how romantic and fun it seems.

Look at the Billboard music charts, top selling books, highest grossing movies, etc. for the period and it's all basically and extension of the fifties with a slight modernization. It was NO where near the "revolution" portrayed in the media - look at the results! Who are the CEOs of today? The conservative politicians? The right wing media pundits? All children of the sixties and seventies; Not "reformed hippies", but rather kids who were NEVER hippies, but grew up in ordinary to upper class regular neighborhoods.

Easy Rider, LSD use, underground rock, etc., were never big, although their influence may have lingered on.

So no, most kids were NOT calling the cops "pigs" except in jest amongst themselves, and they mainly toed the line with authority, there were VERY few rebels.

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I watched daytime soap operas in the 80s and 90s and what I suddenly noticed was very odd was when a child was missing, a baby even, and the insinuation was the teen-aged father may have taken the kid, when someone says 'call the police' the reaction is 'ABSOLUTELY NOT!' to the point of taking the phone away from the person and slamming the receiver down.

Now compare this to the I Love Lucy episode when Lucy has the loving cup stuck on her head. When the cop approaches and says 'would a policeman help?' Lucy goes into her own '50s rant. "always sticking their nose in, asking nosey questions' bit.

I've compared this to the latter reactions and as you noted here with Adam-12, which that episode just went off on Me TV.

Dragnet likewise has an interesting episode guest-starring Howard Hesseman, the old hippy himself from WKRP in Cincinnati.

What's interesting there is his episode of Head of the Class with him now having all the answers to William-Buckley-conservative played by Kevin McCarthy.

Compare this to what we just had with the Occupy Wall Street movement. EVERYBODY was caught up in it, according to the coverage.

I've always suspected this was how the hippie era went down.

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There have been a lot of good replies to Jim_Marks but how about one from the son of a police officer (I was born in 1960.) We lived in a small town in MT. but my father had to deal with many of the same problems as you see on Adam-12. I can tell you for a fact that some episodes were used in police training classes. My dad used to refer shows like A-12 as his "training films!" Even in our small town in the 1960's and 70's my father was called "pig" on a regular basis by a few of the towns kids and less than upstanding citizens of our fair community. He used to say that it stood for "Pride, Integrity and Guts!" I remember one time when he came to my Jr. High civics class and gave a talk on drugs. Of course some kids were ecstatic that he brought a little tablet that could be lit and smelled like marijuana when it burned. (It was smell only not the real stuff) but he talked about the danger of drugs were and it did remind me of an old Dragnet episode. There was also an episode of Dragnet where Sgt. Friday was taking some community college class and had to arrest a fellow student who had some marijuana cigs. The instructor and the class wanted Joe to be kicked out since he was a " dirty pig" But he stood up for himself and another student turned out to be lawyer and threatened to sue the school if he was kicked out. Adam-12 was a well written and acted show that showed police work for what it really was mundane, boring, repetitious and as my Dad used to say "Hours of mind-numbing boredom mixed in with a few seconds of heart racing action!"

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I truly believe that PROFESSIONAL, DECENT COPS like Reed and Malloy DO exist in real life LAPD- I've had experiences with the type....HOWEVER the dirty corrupt lying VIOLENT LAPD THUG tarnishes them- and I've experienced those types as well. They are more criminal than the "criminal"...

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Another thing that's often depicted on Adam 12 were upper middle class and wealthy citizens who would tell Malloy and Reed that they pay their salaries and expect excellent service. Which is so rude and arrogant. Do police officers encounter this often--back then and now?

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Why would it be any different now?

And I would say the same if I thought my local PD wasn't doing a great job.

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Did you watch the Reese Witherspoon arrest video that was released on May 3? It's fair to say she was rude and arrogant.

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One of the most hilarious episodes was from around 1970 where that rich retired guy took up monitoring police scanners as a hobby b/c he had nothing else to do. He would even try to help Reed and Malloy out and went and arrested a couple of long haired teenage kids that looked around 17-19.

The kids were like "we were just changing our tire to this car and that cop came and arrested us, kept calling us young punks".

When Reed and Malloy tell them that he's not a real cop they're like "What, you mean that guy isn't real fuzz!?"

It's like the more things change, the more they stay the same. Those kids could have been kids from today, just slightly different slang. The rich retired dude was just harrasing those kids for being young and called them no good punks. I loved seeing Reed and Malloy finally get the glee of arresting that guy too for a false arrest.

By the way, I've heard some people still say "pigs!" every now and then, but it's probably nowhere near used on the level as the 1960s/early 70s.

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Sometimes I wish one could rate comments on here. Meaning if they liked or disliked one's comments, or if the comment was helpful or not.

To that end, I want to especially thank "censorshipsucks06", " prothero", " richard.fuller1" & "bigkdr" for their responses, as well as everyone who contributed.

I have no idea how old "mactach" is, but his immaturity and lack of respect shows. I have seen other posts by him elsewhere on IMDB and his responses here are par for the course.

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Just an idle and off topic thought. As a child of the 60s most interesting for me are the street scenes as Malloy and Reed patrol the LA area. As I watch episodes from early '69 and hear the term "pig", I'm reminded that Spahn Ranch and the Manson family are not too far from filming locations of that time.

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I, too, was a child of the '60s and watched Adam-12 regularly. It did reflect the times fairly accurately (well, the times as seen by Jack Webb). Episodes (along with Dragnet and Emergency!) kept to a standard format with a lesson learned in 24 minutes.

Enjoy!

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Well, these late-'60s TV shows are, obviously, a simplistic and smugly conservative version of what was going on then and the attitudes of the youth movement.

Yes, it was a turbulent time, but the kids are generally shown as being spoiled and horrid with the authorities noble and blameless.

The programs of the time are not so much a reflection of the '60s generation gap but of the older generation's dismissive view of that generation gap.

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The most profound of sin is tragedy unremembered.

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"Anything goes" might be what makes the news, but I hardly think it's the norm in this country.

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I am looking around. Kids & teens don't misbehave any more now than they did 30 or 40 years ago. It's just that the "bad" kids make the news more often.

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