Did they have sex?
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Did Martha and Nick have sex when the two were upstairs while George came home and Nick's wife was sleeping in the car?
Did Martha and Nick have sex when the two were upstairs while George came home and Nick's wife was sleeping in the car?
They attempted to, in order to humiliate George, but Nick was too drunk to, uhm, perform. share
im pretty sure they do actually, hence nick being a "stud" and not a "houseboy".
"they should give nicole kidman an oscar for being able to show any emotion after THAT much botox".
Martha: “Him can't. Him too full of booze.”
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Wait a minute... who am I here?
and then a minute later she admits that hes a "stud" and not a "houseboy", and thats why george walks out.
"they should give nicole kidman an oscar for being able to show any emotion after THAT much botox".
Yup, just finished watching it. Martha plays her games with Blondie just like with George, so at first it seems like they haven't, but they did.
shareI watched it again last night. I think you're right. Martha eggs Nick on, but Nick couldn't, um, perform ("Too Drunk to ****," as the Dead Kennedys put it).
George mentions in one of his rants about the fictional son that Martha was "bringing strangers home at all hours of the day," which I interpret as Martha is a serial adulterer. George can't dump Martha because his career depends on his father-in-law's approval. Furthermore, George is a little lost baby-poo himself and couldn't face the world without Martha.
It's a pathetic sight the way George breaks down and sobs on the porch when he sees the silhouettes upstairs. If George was a "real man" on Martha's terms, not a wimpy cuckold, he would go up there and smash them both on the head. Either that, or he would drag Honey back to the car and have his way with her, just to say F.U. to Martha and Nick. But he doesn't, he just sits there, drunk and helpless, and takes it.
I watched it again last night. I think you're right. Martha eggs Nick on, but Nick couldn't, um, perform ("Too Drunk to ****," as the Dead Kennedys put it).
George mentions in one of his rants about the fictional son that Martha was "bringing strangers home at all hours of the day," which I interpret as Martha is a serial adulterer. George can't dump Martha because his career depends on his father-in-law's approval. Furthermore, George is a little lost baby-poo himself and couldn't face the world without Martha.
It's a pathetic sight the way George breaks down and sobs on the porch when he sees the silhouettes upstairs. If George was a "real man" on Martha's terms, not a wimpy cuckold, he would go up there and smash them both on the head. Either that, or he would drag Honey back to the car and have his way with her, just to say F.U. to Martha and Nick. But he doesn't, he just sits there, drunk and helpless, and takes it.
Wow! Somebody on this thread actually understood the movie. I was shocked by how many people on this thread thought they actually had sex. I mean, even if you couldn't pick it up that his performance was a disappointment from the dialogue between Martha and Nick after the "sex" scene, one major theme of the play/movie is that marriage with a woman like Martha/Honey is an emasculating experience. share
Thanks. It's one of my favorites. I like to watch it again every once awhile because I always pick up on something new. The second half, IMO, is more of a horror movie than a comedy!
shareWow! Somebody on this thread actually understood the movie. I was shocked by how many people on this thread thought they actually had sex. I mean, even if you couldn't pick it up that his performance was a disappointment from the dialogue between Martha and Nick after the "sex" scene, one major theme of the play/movie is that marriage with a woman like Martha/Honey is an emasculating experience.
I thought it was fairly obvious that they did have sex. When Martha implies he didn't perform in bed, Nick gets offended. If Nick did not have sex because he was too drunk, he would have been embarassed, instead he acted like she was lying. share
George mentions in one of his rants about the fictional son that Martha was "bringing strangers home at all hours of the day," which I interpret as Martha is a serial adulterer. George can't dump Martha because his career depends on his father-in-law's approval. Furthermore, George is a little lost baby-poo himself and couldn't face the world without Martha.
It's a pathetic sight the way George breaks down and sobs on the porch when he sees the silhouettes upstairs. If George was a "real man" on Martha's terms, not a wimpy cuckold, he would go up there and smash them both on the head. Either that, or he would drag Honey back to the car and have his way with her, just to say F.U. to Martha and Nick. But he doesn't, he just sits there, drunk and helpless, and takes it.
George isn't as weak as he seems - witness his "get the guests" routine about Blondie and the Mouse, or his finally snapping and strangling Martha.
Taking away Martha's fantasy life about "her son" was far more powerful revenge for what she did than if he had punched her in the face or choked her again. It's pretty clear that George put up with the "son" fantasy to indulge Martha, and he realized that he had nothing to lose by taking it away from her at will. Perhaps he couldn't face the world without Martha, but it's strongly implied that she needed the warped emotional crutch of an imaginary son while he never wanted it.
In the scene where Nick says "I don't think [George] has a vertebra intact," Martha scoffs at him sarcastically and says that there's a lot he doesn't understand in this world. She knows that under his spineless facade, George can be as emotionally ruthless as she is. share
Also if any of the story about young George accidentally killing his parents is true his taking all Martha's vitriolic attacks makes perfect sense in that he feels he deserves to be miserable on some level. It may have also contributed to his not getting ahead in the academic world. Even if the entire episode was made up, just the fact that his father-in-law squelched his novel writing could result in George feeling depressed and trapped in a career he really didn't want.
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