Peanuts gang as animated cartoons


The Peanuts gang never really got their due as animated characters. The humor falls flat in my opinion because the characters are voiced by children who lack comedic timing and don't fully understand all the lines they're saying. In fact, in some cases you can actually hear that the children providing the voices are speaking their lines phonetically. It would have been better to get an all-female voice cast to have consistent voices for the Peanuts gang's TV and film exploits.

The measure of an animated cartoon character's recognizability is not only its physical appearance, but its voice. I can list a few cartoon characters here and I'm sure everyone would recognize their voices without seeing the character.

Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Elmer Fudd, and all the WB characters.
Bart, Homer, Marge, Lisa and the cast of The Simpsons.
Betty Boop, Popeye, Donald Duck, Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, the list goes on and on.

Can any of the Peanuts gang be recognized by voice alone? Absolutely not. I think that by not making them distinctive animated characters, they endured as a comic strip for 50 years. Had they taken on a life of their own in animation, the strip might not have stayed on top. The extremely verbose and imaginative Snoopy of the comic strip is silent in the animated adventures, and this is to the detriment of the character. Snoopy's intelligence and humor is a glaring omission from the animated Peanuts stories. Why his thoughts were not given a voice is something of a mystery. Snoopy's silly animated pantomimes are no substitute for his comic strip wisecracks. This made his comic strip persona outshine anything done in animation.

A good example of a comic strip character taking on a life of his own in animation is Popeye.

Popeye's strip went out of print years ago, but everyone knows his voice, his song, and his spinach gimmick (which was not part of the comic strip) because he became a famous animated character. In many cases, comic strip characters gain distinctive voices, theme songs, and catchphrases from their animated exploits. Superman got his "faster than a speeding bullet" catchphrase from the Max Fleischer animated cartoons of the 30s and 40s. The only sounds that are associated with the Peanuts gang are the offscreen "teacher voice" made with a trombone, and the familiar piano tune "Linus and Lucy."

Now that Charles Schulz is no longer with us, I'd like to see the Peanuts gang take a new direction in their animated exploits, since this is where they will continue.

First, I'd like to see Schulz's original artwork animated by computer instead of poorly drawn animation cells. I'd also like to see Snoopy finally have a voice, much like Lorenzo Music did for Garfield. No lip movement, just thoughts. I wonder who would make a good voice for Snoopy? I'd hope for someone who would add a dimension and recognizability to the character not yet seen in animation.

I want the Peanuts gang to finally have distinctive voices that will remain constant for years to come. Since the animated specials are going to continue, it's only right that the Peanuts animated cartoons take the necessary steps to ensure the characters endure in their new medium, since no one will be drawing new exploits in the strips. Which brings up another point: how about new stories that don't mine the comic strips for material? You can't tell me that a writer can't come up with funny situations and lines consistent with the Peanuts gang.

That said, I'd also like to see a new Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Easter, etc. special made every year. If they can churn out 22 episodes of The Simpsons every year, they can turn out 5 or 6 new, genuinely funny Peanuts cartoons every year.

What do you think?

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I am not convinced that Snoopy requires a voice in the animated version. In a sense, both Snoopy's physical performance and bizarre non-verbal voicings have taken on a life of their own. And the strange delivery of the Peanuts gang themselves are almost iconic, as if emphasizing that the kids are hosting ideas that are too broad for their age.

I do agree that the subject matter could be revisited, though. Peanuts is one of the few popular comics from that time period that still resonates, and I think a good script might serve the Peanuts mythology well. I'm not sure if a seasonal string of cartoons are the answer, but who knows?

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Actually Snoopy did get a voice not once but twice. There were animated versions of 'You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown' and 'Snoopy: The Musical' in which Snoopy has a couple of solo songs.

I know about these because I have copies of them on VHS. (Plus I played Linus in both shows on stage.)

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yeah, new Peanuts specials - maybe Trey Parker and Matt Stone are available?

Don't mess with the classics. Look what happened when Michael Jackson remade Wizard of Oz

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Actually, I'm not talking about "messing with the classics," I'm talking about new twists on old themes. I don't want the originals neglected nor remade. I am talking about follow ups.

Judging from the date of your posts, I assume you visited this board after viewing It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown for the 40th time. What is important to note is that Charles Schulz had new stories and humor in the comic strip every year since the inception of the "Great Pumpkin" storyline, yet on TV, it's the same thing every year.

When Schulz passed away, he made it clear that Peanuts the comic strip ended with his life, but the animated specials would live on. This is why I think it's important to improve the storytelling style and animation of the cartoons to be more true to the comic strip, which would include hearing Snoopy's thoughts.

Just my humble opinion.

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I don't believe Snoopy needs a voice. As someone said, his actions and his goofy voice are enough to convey his thoughts. As a matter of fact, he is possibly the most entertaining parts of these shows.

While I like the fact that kids do the voices, that does lead to a problem... as the kids grow up, the actors change and so do the voices. They may be close, but not exact.

The problem as I see it is as I mentioned in another thread... the scripts.
Some scripts seem fluid and connected and other's don't. The earlier scripts seem to have been written in their entirity as one project, as one story. Then things changed and the scripts seemed to simply be a series of related comic strips annimated and spliced together. Every so often you had a "punch line", and then they moved onto something else... sometimes related, sometimes unrelated.

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I think a Snoopy movie would be great, but sadly fear it would not be done well in which case it might be better not done at all.

I disagree that all the Peanut's gang voiced are unmemorable, I can still hear Charlie Brown's voice in my head and I haven't heard it in twenty years or more.

I liked Woodstock how he just had the chicken scratches. Was cute.



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i say dont mess with the charlie brown specials have them make new ones, not remakes of old ones.

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They can't make new ones or new comics, it's stipulated in the copyrights of the Charles Schultz properties. At least that's what I read about it years ago.



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Actually Kupotek. Just a year or two ago they came out with a new christmas special. I forgot what the title was but I know that it did come out after the death of Charles Schultz.

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You sure it was new? If so, perhaps the family changed the obligations of the contracts I don't know.

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Reading the post, it's almost hard to tell at first if you're being sarcastic, especially with the line about using computer animation.

For whatever reason, which doesn't come to mind now, they decided not to have Snoopy talk from "Charlie Brown Christmas" on, and you can't really go back on that. I think the idea of having a voice actor read Snoopy's line would just make him seem too "human." You can give him lines a written format, but an auditory one would be too weird. Yeah, they did it with Garfield, and it worked, but the comic and the shows focused on him and his thoughts. Snoopy's thoughts were only part of his character. His pantomime stuff in the comics was another part, and they just decided to focus on that, which is enough when you have enough characters around him to spend time on as well.

As for the kid voice actors, one of the things I liked about the "classic" specials was how raw a lot of them sounded, especially the girl who plays Sally in the Christmas show. One of my favorite moments is where she stutters the line "All I want is what I have coming to me, all I want is my fair share." They spoke like actual kids, even if the things they were saying wasn't particularly child-like, which made it even funnier and more charming. The specials in recent years use actors that sound much too polished and professional (esp Lucy), and it bugs me to no end. It's like the annoyingly precocious kids that sitcoms add to the cast during their waning years.

And I'd have preferred that they not make any more TV specials after Schulz's death. The comic went with him, and so should the animation. I don't know how much of the newer shows are based on his own writing, but I hate the idea of a team of outside writers being hired to come up with material for mass-produced shows. They just wouldn't be the same.

I'm perfectly fine watching "Great Pumpkin" and "Charlie Brown Christmas" once a year, every year, and I can't wait until I get to do that with my own kids someday. Sometimes revisiting fond memories of the past is all you need.

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