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they didn't earn too much did they?


today's racing = more money , more safe

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First place prize money for the 1966 Monaco Grand Priz was about $2,500.00 USD.

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This needs to be put into context. Money was worth more at the time. That's about how much James Bond was earning for an entire year.

Back then, you could attend Ohio State for $685/year. A daily newspaper cost 7c. A clerk might earn 85c an hour, and what's more, he could be buying a 3-bedroom home with a big back yard in a nice neighborhood.

And if you realize that $2,500 had about $40,000 of spending power in today's terms, that's not too bad, considering first prize in an F1 race is only about $110,000 today. A driver with a credible chance of finishing most races and winning a few can demand at least $4 million in salary, and make still more from personal sponsorships.

Nice pay if you can get it....

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James Bond? The character? A movie? A book? You know he was a fictional character, right?

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When the actual racing driver Francois Cevert won the US Grand Prix at Watkins Glen in October 1971 he earned $50.000 prize money. Unfortunately that was also where he died on October 6th 1973. It just seems terrible for what they earnt that the racing was so much more dangerous for the amount that they got paid compared to today and how much more safer F1 is and the wages they get today.

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And if you realize that $2,500 had about $40,000 of spending power in today's terms, that's not too bad, considering first prize in an F1 race is only about $110,000 today.

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But you do realize that the big money today (aside from the nonexistent sponsorship back then) comes from the constructors championship which pays out in the hundreds of millions of dollars. The constructors prize money was nowhere near that amount even accounting for the conversion rate. And again look at the lack of sponsors back then on the cars and drivers overalls compared to today. At one point Schumacher was probably second or third in the world behind Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan.

GP racing was rinky dink financially back then compared to what it is now.



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An average Joe could buy a ticket to these races for probably $5.

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By making GP in 1965/66, Frankenheimer got quite lucky. It was just before F1 opened the floodgates for big, corporate money. 1968 saw the introduction of sponsor-decals on the cars ("Lotus Gold Leaf"). After that, F1 never was the same WRT money. It's like they say in the making-of on the DVD: This was the last point in history where Frankenheimer had the chance of making the movie at all.

On a side note: 1966/67 also were the last seasons before the introduction of aerodynamics and other technological advancements. Granted: They had already made a huge step forward by moving the engine/transmission behind the driver, but other than that, pre-68 cars weren't all that sophisticated. So the racing was very "pure" and much more about the driver than about what kind of new gadget(s) the engineers had come up with.


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In the movie, the Jordan BRM team wins the US Grand Prix (Watkins Glen). The prize money was said to be $17,500.

Adjusted for 43 years of inflation, this would be worth approximately $225,000 in 2009 money.

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Compared to today's ludicrous sports incomes, yeah prize money was on the low side back then. But turn your comment around a bit: driving a racing car at speed on a track is probably the greatest thrill you can have outside of bed...to get paid any money at all for racing is the cherry on top of the icing on the cake! There are lots of people who pay out of pocket for the opportunity to race, and many professional drivers have said they'd race for free just to be able to be on track.

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In those days there weren't big tv contracts and no huge amount of corporate advertising money. It was kind of like pro football in the 40 and 50s. The driver's had no advertising on their race suits and the cars had very little. Times have changed. The prize money for winning now is a relative pittance - the real money comes from advertising and sponsorships.

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I read Francois Cevert's biography last year and it stated that the year he died (1973) he earned £400.000 driving for Tyrrell. The drivers these days earn a lot more money Lewis Hamilton earns 15 million driving for McLaren and Jenson Button is on 8 million also driving for Mc'Laren I think the biggest earner is Alonso who earns 25 million driving for Ferrari.

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Actually the top drivers earned as much money as a CEO of a small company back then. They could afford the glamorous life, fine houses and expensive cars. Although not as wealthy as the drivers today, that can afford their own private jets, huge luxury yachts and mansions, they still lived a very good life by the standards of the day.

Even the regular drivers who didn't belong in the top 5 group made as much money as well respected surgeons at that time.

Racing wasn't about the money back then either. Bear in mind there were hardly any sponsors and no global tv broadcast.

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And it wasn't only lack of money that led to the safety issues. Jackie Stewart was widely criticized for insisting that the tracks be made safer. A lot of people thought it was supposed to be dangerous, and the death toll was fairly high. It wasn't a money sport, the motivations were supposed to be honor and love of the sport. In '66 all the teams didn't have sponsors the way they do today. There was lots of whining about loosing the purity of the sport when sponsor ship deals started showing up. When Chapman painted the Gold Leaf cars red there was hysteria. The top drivers did well financially. Stirling Moss was very successful, and Stewart eventually moved to Switzerland to avoid British taxes.
In the 70's Hesketh ran an all white car trying to bring back the old ways, but that didn't last long.
Lou

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I just saw an interview with the great Stirling Moss, and he said that in his day they made as much money as a solicitor/lawyer

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To put this into perspective. Neil Armstrong was making $20,000 per year as an astronaut in 1969 when he landed on the Moon.

Any one of a thousand things could have gone wrong with those flights, and three men could have died. Before they blasted off for the mission Armstrong gave odds it was 50/50 they'd pull it off successfully.

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You have to realise that in those days there was no such thing as an "F1" driver. There were only 9/10 F1 GPs per year and all of the drivers took part in other kinds of racing, such as F2, long distance sports cars, even touring cars. The emphasis in Europe in those days was less on prize money than on starting money(we would call it "appearance money" today). Organisers would pay good money to a team if they had a big name driver in order to ensure his attendance at their race (there was no F1 package as there is today, anybody could enter a GP if they had a suitable car). Some private entrants, working on a shoestring, might hit mechanical problems in practice and cobble together a "starting money special" for the race, retiring after one lap, but claiming their starting money! The US Grand Prix was very much the exception in offering no starting money, but very good (for the time) prize money even for last place. So, a mid sixties racing driver might have contracts for F1, F2, sports cars and other odd drives, for which he would receive, in addition to his contract retainer, a share of the starting money, the prize money and any bonus payments from companies for using their tyres, fuel, shock absorbers, brake pads, clutches etc.

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