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Seuss versus Chuck Jones on the Endangered Sleigh


Chuck Jones told on a program years ago that Seuss was opposed to Max becoming so much comedy relief and dominating the cartoon, which astonished me, until the cartoon came out and it was an out-and-out success.

In listening to the cartoon, it becomes clear that virtually all the words are Suess's (sans Ravenscroft's song, I take it) and you can hear that there are no words for Max's face in the snow making St. Nick, the sleigh going over Max, Max sitting on the rear end of the sleigh, as well as various other moments with Max.

But Max is referred to in the narration.

What I did just now notice in watching it is that there is no mention of the sleigh hanging over the cliff.

The words go from the Grinch's realization that Christmas is more than materialism, then the next recital is that the Grinch's heart grew three times that day, and he had the strength of ten Grinches, plus two.

Now what this makes me wonder is if the endangered sleigh was in the book.

Truthfully, I have never read the book (or not seen it in decades. why when we have this cartoon?), so anyone with the publication, is the sleigh on a ledge as we get it in the cartoon?

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no--that part doesn't happen

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shockarama.

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Jones, always vocally insistent on action over dialog in cartoons, probably had to coax his friend the Doctor into allowing more visual material into the story.

He probably pointed out the inherent qualities of animated film vs. the printed page, and of course they had a 30-minute (with commercials) time frame to consider. Fellow cartoon director Bob Clampett had adapted Seuss's "Horton Hatches the Egg" decades earlier, pretty faithfully, with maybe a couple of small additional bits of business, and it clocked in at about six minutes.

If you're at all familiar with Jones' body of work you can see familiar bits of his in sequences, like the Grinch prying a clinging Max off like a tight garment - that was done in an old Porky Pig/Sylvester frightfest.

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Also, issues such as the dog are mentioned in the airing of ABC channel's 40th Anniversary of How the Grinch Stole Christmas that happened on December 12, 2006. They showed How the Grinch Stole Christmas and then talked about how the piece came about. They need the 10 minutes with the dog having issues taking the sleigh down the hill to fill the time slot.

I think the sleigh was about to fall over the cliff or what real reason did the Grinch need the strength of nth amount of men for?

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