The Yardbirds


i can't believe there is no mention on this board of The Yardbirds appearance in the underground club scene. The Yardbirds are performing with both Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page, two guitar gods playing their classic 'Train Kept a Rollin' to a zombie-like audience and they don't even appear stoned.

Jeff Beck's frustration with The Yardbirds is hinted at with his destruction of the Vox amplifier and his guitar. he was notoriously difficult to work with and most probably still is but that's what makes him Jeff Beck.

Page is seen smiling perhaps hinting that he will now be the only guitarist in the band. it was Beck who suggested Page take his place. 'Shapes of Things' To Come!!!

i've read that The Who and the Velvet Underground were asked by Antonioni to perform but couldn't and the Yardbirds were asked. could it be Beck smashing amps to imitate Pete Townsend at Antonioni's request for the film?

i'm probably reading too much into this but what the hell its still a classic scene in the film which captures a rare moment in rock history.

We deal in lead, friend.

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Man you're reading way to much into this.

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The reason Beck smashes his guitar up is because Antonioni originally wanted The Who for this scene but there was some problem with their management. (If you're a youngster, The Who were famous for smashing up their instruments).


I used to want to change the world. Now I just want to leave the room with a little dignity.

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Your right Pathfinder, the nightclub is a great scene. To me, it's one of my favorite in Cinematic history.

I have a Ricky-Tick (the club venue)Face logo poster hanging up where I stay at.

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IMO, this was the best thing about the film snapshot of the best of 60s music.

Velvet Voice

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absolutely, the best. who'd have thought, this casual snapshot would capture such social significance.

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i do recall reading that The Who was the first choice for the band in the night club scene but i never made that connection. it certainly would explain the scene better. thank you Krustallos for your post.

"We deal in lead, friend."

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Probably to do with Terence Stamp being replaced with Hemingway two weeks before shooting. Chris Stamp was Terence's brother and managed The Who at the time.

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I just saw a commercial for this on TCM showing Page and Beck. Can't wait to check this out in one hour.

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Jimmy Page was probably thinking 'Now, who can I rip-off next?'.

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Yeah, good point. I am a Zep Head for 45 years, so far. Why was this movie a big deal when I was 14, but I did not understand why, back then & ever since ? War protests & pot ? Why did Robert Osborne & Drew Barrymore consider the movie an essential on Turner Classic Movies ? Because we are conditioned to plot & characters, but not images & art ? I have original Zep on vinyl, Lear Jet 8-track cartridges, Sony-Phillips 1/4-inch cassettes. I sprung for re-mastered CDs & new DVDs since 1990. I am not one of 20 million applicants for the 12/10/07 75% reunuion gig. I bought a Cadillac advertised with a Zep "hit" during a Super Bowl TV commercial. Did The Who sell out ? Nothing really matters. Just a cool movie to watch. Do not over-analyze anything !

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It may be hard to put into perspective, with what we know about music now, but back then this music was VERY NEW. Try and imagine that, if you can. People standing around going, WTF or mesmerized by it all, not knowing what to make of it. On top of that, the Yardbirds were very ground-breaking in their own right. People thought of rock music as basically, the Beatles, Elvis and sing-songy girl singers. You're watching people, yes just standing there at first, whose minds are being blown.

I had the stupid good luck to see the Yardbirds live....with my dad when I was 9...at the Michigan State Fair in 1966. Yes, true! I'll never forget Jimmy Page's guitar with all the mirrors stuck on it. I'd never heard or saw anything like it and neither did anyone there. Magic!

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A very strong case could be made that the Yardbirds were the most important rock group ever (after the Beatles of course, who started the whole Sixties music scene). They had the three most influential British Invasion guitarists (Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page). Even Jimi Hendrix claimed he was influenced by Jeff Beck and the Yardbirds. The first guitar solo consisting of feedback was in "Shapes of Things". Soon after, every teen garage band across the USA was performing the Yardbirds' version of "I'm a Man". Beck almost single-handedly invented psychedelic rock music. Even through the Seventies, groups as diverse as Alice Cooper and Heart (especially "Barracuda") were recording Yardbirds style guitar tracks. The number of groups emanating from the Yardbirds' three lead guitarists is inestimable: Cream, Blind Faith, the Jeff Beck Group, and Led Zeppelin are only the most often mentioned.

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While I consider myself a big fan of the Yardbirds, it is too much to say they can be considered for being the most important rock group ever after the Beatles. The mere connection of Clapton Beck and Page to the group did not mean their experience in it was their most significant work or even that such experience was for each the most formative. Clapton after all was chosen for the group because he already was an acknowledged follower of the blues, and he did not really hone is style until later, with both Mayall and Cream. talking about guitar sounds and technique, it was not until his stint with Mayall covered on the Beano album that he first used the Gibson Les Paul through the then new Marshall amp, creating the signature sound soon followed by blues rock guitar players everywhere. And in Cream that we saw him take the power trio supergroup concept to such a high level.

Beck's time in the Yardbirds concededly was more significant, in part because it lasted longer, and skep is accurate in noting the use of feedback and other creative effects. Jimi Hendrix also did credit Beck with being a huge influence on him. But imo the music of the Yardbirds only developed so far during this period, and was not really all that influential on those who would carry psychedelia into what became acid rock. That was more the work of the San Francisco bands such as the Jefferson Airplane, and I do not recall them saying much about the Yardbirds. Or Jerry Garcia and the dead doing so, either.

Jimmy Page was a widely known, used and accomplished session man before he joined the Yardbirds. And most of his development after his session work was in Led Zeppelin. I am aware of the connection, literally including bassist John Paul Jones in a late iteration of the Yardbirds. But there just was not all that much carried over.

But my main point about the Yardbirds is that while Clapton Beck and Page all played for them, there was not much in the way of synergy or overlap among them. Beck and Page did play together, including in this film. But it was brief and I do not note much beyond A Train Kept a Rollin as any notable work they did together. Beck for one went on to his own group where he didn't even have a rhythm guitarist, let alone a deal where he traded off with another lead. In other words I don't know how much his time with Page influenced him, and the same can be said of Page when he went to LZ. Clapton never played in the group with either Page or Beck.

So, a great group, but most influential is too much overstatement.

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I agree with your comment. I do think Jimmy's time in The Yardbirds was the first and most significant step in creating Led Zepplin. It's been endlessly documented that more than one song sprang from Page's exposure to bands and artists who were on the same bill with The Yardbirds. He filed these songs and ideas away for a later date and then presented them to the other members who made their contributions. Dazed and Confused is a perfect example. I don't think anyone would dispute the influence Led Zepplin has had on modern music. So it's probable that without The Yardbirds, there may not have been a Led Zepplin. I don't like the terms " best, or most" since they are subjective. You simply cannot win an argument regarding opinions. When I'm required to rate something I use the word "one". I make my opinion known without overstating or discounting anyone else. In my opinion The Yardbirds are "one" of the most influential bands from the twentieth century. It's been exciting to have been a witness to all of this unbridled creativity. Kids don't know what they missed.

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thanks for sharing this story. what a wonderful father to have brought you to this event. i researched the Yardbirds at Michigan State Fair in 1966. this show, in November 1966 is mentioned in a book called, Your Pretty Face is Going to Hell: The Dangerous Glitter of David Bowie...by Dave Thompson, page 42. the Yardbirds were part of a publicity event billed as the Mod Wedding Happening and involved Andy Warhol. perhaps your father was also there to see Warhol?

i was also interested to read your mention of Page's mirrored guitar. Syd Barrett, while with Pink Floyd used a mirrored Fender Squire. i wonder who inspired who? thanks again for the post.

We deal in lead, friend.

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I'm jealous, although I did see them at The Grande Ballroom in Detroit not long after that. I was also fortunate enough to have seen Led Zepplin there two consecutive nights. At the time there was still some question as to the group's name and I wrote "Jimmy's new Band " in my diary. I was 15 years old. The footage of the Yardbirds is the best reason to see "Blow Up" imo. Oh, I also like the clothing.

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Now that you mention it, Pathfinder616, yeah, it's a brilliant and prescient choice by Antonioni (or a damn lucky one). I first saw Blow-Up I my late teens in the late 70s. The Yardbirds perf of the charging "Train Kept a Rollin'" was as kick ass then as it is today. What if it was instead, The Strawberry Alarm Clock? Yes, young ones, there was an awful, insipidly dumbass band of that name at the time, and far more popular than the Yardbirds. I have yet to see a performance cameo in a film as perfect as this. I wonder how many takes it took.

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It could have easily been the Velvet Underground too. I think Steve Howe's (of the band YES) then group The In-Crowd was booked before the Yardbirds snagged it, therefore Jeff Beck is actually smashing Steve Howe's guitar.

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Regarding what OP said

it was Beck whom suggested Page take his place. 'Shapes of Things' To Come!!!

Though this may be true, I just heard a radio interview of someone who seemed to know this subject quite well. His story was that Page got Beck the gig to begin with. Page invited Beck to go with him to hear this band with a very good guitarist (Clapton), and that Clapton was leaving, so they needed a replacement. Page said he was too busy with session work to commit to a band at that point.



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Pathfinder616, Don't forget why Jeff Beck smashed his guitar. His amp was making crackling sounds,like frying bacon. He turned around and fiddled with the knobs. When that didn't help he pounded on the head which by then was cutting in and out. A roadie joined in but it still wasn't working. Jeff finally had enough and proceeded to destroy the guitar. He took out his frustration on the gear and from what I've read that's not what motivated Pete. The director probably had his heart set on gear being smashed. Unable to get The Who what we see is this calculated maneuver which doesn't seem plausible. It's a small audience at a low profile gig and guitars aren't cheap. Of course the one Jeff really smashed was a throwaway cheapo, just like the ones Pete regularly trashed. That being said just how successful was the band in the movie meant to be? Successful enough to destroy gear in a hissy fit? Maybe he was having trouble elsewhere in his life. I wonder if Jeff ever talked about this in any interviews? I'd love to know. It really does seem like it would be a fun scene to shoot and he looks like he's into it. There were probably a few times he would have liked to do that in real life. But not with his Les Paul.

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