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The reason why this is my favourite in the trilogy ...


Not only do I find it the most enjoyable in the trilogy by a wide margin,but it's the only one in the trilogy where you can create your own scenarios in the different events or situations that occur.

For instance,Indio has obviously raped and caused Mortimer's sister's death.But we never know if his sister knew Indio personally.He knew Mortimer by name when he shouted out to him.So Indio could have just broken in one night,and after the events found out her surname.Or it's strongly implied that it may have been a woman he was stalking for a long time.Or it could have been a woman that he was actually with,and she broke up with him after finding out what kind of man he was.Did Mortimer and Indio actually know each other but Indio didn't recognise him because he'd aged?

In the bank robbery sequence where Manco and Mortimer are waiting.Both men are still distrusting of each other at this point.Would Mortimer let Manco kill Indio? Does Mortimer want his revenge right then and there? Is Manco hoping to capture or kill them here himself.Or is he actually hoping they'll rob the bank successfully,so the gang's reward will go up?

The scene where Manco breaks into the storage room late at night,and Mortimer has already beaten him to the money.Was Manco planning on leaving Mortimer high and dry here? He tried to trick him once by getting Indio to go in a different direction,and then Mortimer surprised him by turning up,and then telling Indio he knows about the money,and cracking the safe open.Was Manco going to just hide the money and join the gang again?Or take off with the money and forget about taking down the gang? Or was he going to take the money to Mortimer and get ready to take down the gang with him?

Indio's revelation that he knew Manco was a bounty hunter all along.Is he just saying that or did he actually know? Was he always planning on using him to let him take out his men so that he could get away with the money.Or maybe he planned on using him as a scapegoat for when he started picking his men off himself.Or maybe because of his self destructive and psychotic personality he just liked living on the edge,and liked the danger of having a bounty killer in the gang to see what happened.After the robbery,he does seem lacking in motivation,and just general interest in anything.

Manco riding off with the money at the end.Will he keep it all or not? A million dollars plus 27'000 in the 1800's would have been a ridiculous amount of money.He might be greedy,or he might think 27'000 plus the extra for the return of the money would be a nice sum for his settling down.If he intends to at all,he seems like someone who's just happy to have money in his pocket and keep drifting.Maybe his future is destined to be just like Mortimer.An ageing gunslinger.

Sorry for rambling on,it wasn't supposed to be an in-depth analysis over what is really a dark-humoured spaghetti western.But I love this film and this is another reason why.Whereas most of the situations in A Fistful Of Dollars,and The Good,The Bad,and The Ugly are just presented to you at face value,with this film you can create your own intepretations of the characters motivations,and situations,and IMO there's no right or wrong answer.


What does everyone else think?

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I've never really looked at it in that light - the openness of interpretation. It's an interesting thought. If time permits - children locked up nice and tight in the dungeon, wife sated and sleeping like a log - I'll give it another view this weekend with this idea very much in mind.

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Great Points!!!

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great post buddyboy28

i found this to be by far the most enjoyable of the Dollar Trilogy as well

Now we start

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This was the most favorite film in the "trilogy", of my late brother.

Why? He never explained it beyond the story line.

Kudos to you!

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I can understand that some people prefer TGBU, but it's not unquestionably superior. For once, Gian Maria Volonte is imo the best thing about the series, and El Indio is his best performance, that's something that TGBU is missing. Also, FFDM has no filler scenes, while on TGBU the civil war scenes seem a bit out of place since they're not necessary to the story.

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Eli Wallach makes TGBU the best of the trilogy, but this is the second best one because of Van Cleef and Volonte.

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It's the fine wine of the Dollars Trilogy.

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it's tied with Good Bad Ugly for me as both of those are in my Top 4 Westerns ever as it's a four way tie for me with...

-Open Range (2003) (THE lowest rated movie on IMDB, has a 7.5/10 average, that i gave a 10/10 to. it flies off the radar but it's top notch.)
-Good Bad Ugly (1966)
-For a Few Dollars More (1965)
-Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)

all are 10/10's from me as there is only 21 movies i gave a 10/10 score to and there is four of them.

also, i don't even like A Fistful of Dollars anymore as while i used to think it was top notch years ago i could not even finish re-watching it on Oct 10th 2014. Good Bad Ugly/For a Few Dollars More remain top notch though as i just finished re-watching For a Few Dollars More just now (Oct 28th 2015) and my previous re-watch of Good Bad Ugly was June 25th 2014 which was a day after Eli Wallach passed away at 98 years old.

p.s. @ OP ; you made some good points as i never really thought about things that much but it seems you made some good points about the movie ;)

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One thing that always stuck with me was when Mortimer's sister shot herself. The first time I saw this movie I think I was about 7 or so. At that age I didn't understand that scene at all because I didn't realize she killed herself. I remember thinking, as she's going for the gun, oh good the lady is going to get the gun and shoot the bad guy. But then after the shot, Indio raises up and she's dead. That completely confused me. I still remember the confused feeling of a young girl's mind that has seen something and cannot make sense of what it saw. It was years later when I saw the movie again that I got it.

And so now something else weighs on my mind about that scene . . . Mortimer doesn't know she killed herself, he probably thinks Indio just raped her and shot her. We know Indio never told anyone from the scene where Groggy says to Indio he's always wanted to ask about the watch, says he can see it means a lot to him, but Indio still doesn't tell. So Indio is the only one who knows she killed herself. She chose to die rather than live after being violated and having her lover murdered right in front of her. I think that Mortimer would be even madder still at Indio had he known about her taking her own life. And he would be almost as messed up in the head as Indio obviously is about it.

I love to watch the expression of Mortimer's face at the end when Indio shoots his gun from his hand and gets the watch out. Lee Van Cleef's face captures perfectly the feeling of uh oh I'm so screwed and that silly bastard has got the best of me. He keeps looking down at his gun, maybe trying to imagine the best way to grab it as he falls so he can at least get one shot off before he dies. And I feel his disappointment when Clint saves the day for him. Indio is still dead but he didn't get to do it all by himself like he obviously planned his life around.

This is my all time favorite movie, I never get tired of watching it. It's actually on right now as I type this.

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I love to watch the expression of Mortimer's face at the end when Indio shoots his gun from his hand and gets the watch out. Lee Van Cleef's face captures perfectly the feeling of uh oh I'm so screwed and that silly bastard has got the best of me. He keeps looking down at his gun, maybe trying to imagine the best way to grab it as he falls so he can at least get one shot off before he dies. And I feel his disappointment when Clint saves the day for him. Indio is still dead but he didn't get to do it all by himself like he obviously planned his life around.


I don't agree with the last part here. I see his face as one of great relief when Clint saves the day; he is going to be able to avenge his sister! And his leaving all the reward money to Clint confirms it. "I think you deserve it."

I also like the expressions on Indio's face. He is going to kill some poor bastard in another of his fixed gunfights. Then Clint turns up and it's clear he is bricking it. Probably the only 'fair' gunfight he ever fought.



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