Did they use his den in the later seasons? (Obviously not the fifth after they remodeled.) Don't have time to review all the episodes, but the last episode I remember them using it in was "Fastest Gun in the East," which was second season.
shareYes, when Jeannie blinked the pool table in there, to convince Dr. Bellows that Tony could play against Jim Backus. Also, that annoying nephew stayed up there. That's two off the top of my head.
shareThese are the ones I could find by sifting through my screen-capture files. I may have missed a few here and there because I don't keep images from every single scene. Fill in any gaps you think I may have missed
1st Season - Episodes
4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 15, 18, 19, 20, 24, 25, 26, 30
2nd Season - Episodes
2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 16, 19, 27, 28, 29, 30
3rd Season - Episodes
23 - My Double-Crossing Master
4th Season - Episodes
4 - Abdullah (blinked into a nursery)
14 - The Case of My Vanishing Master, part-2
16 - Invisible House for Sale (blinked into a mansion's billiard room)
5th Season - Episodes
19 - Jeannie and the Curious Kid
21 - Help, Help, A Shark
They must have gotten notes from the suits to get away from that room more, considering how much its use dropped off after the second season.
And, maybe in the scripts they called it a den, but it always seemed more like a study due to how Tony used it that way almost exclusively.
Thanks for the info. I wasn't expecting so much detail, just a mention that it was used in each season.
Den and study are fairly synonymous. I just picked a term in lieu of an on-screen name for the room.
It was easier to list them as it also brought forth the pattern of use. Plus now you have it for future reference.
I have never considered a den to be at all the same as a study. Growing up, we had separate rooms for each function, as did pretty much all of my friends' families in their homes. And that was in the 1960s and 70s. Maybe it's changed now, but I'll forever call Tony's upstairs room a study due to what's in it and how he used it.
Some words can have multiple usages ....the word DEN is such word. Like on the Brady Bunch.. Mike Brady's DEN, was his office and study.
DEN in another sense can be a recreation room or family room. It just depends on the context.
I understand some words can have multiple uses. I simply do not use den and study interchangeably and never will. I consider them to be completely separate from one another. Same with Tony's "upstairs study"
shareWe'll just have to agree to disagree. You absolutely refuse to swap the terms, but Merriam-Webster says a den is "an informal and comfortable room in a house" or "a small and quiet room in a house where someone goes to read, work, etc." Besides, your own examples show it wasn't used just for working and reading. In "Fastest Gun in the East," the episode starts and ends with him relaxing up there watching a western on TV. In "Help, Help, a Shark," before Jeannie puts a pool table there, it shows not just the TV, but a chaise lounge. Definitely a space for relaxation.
You just made me think, though. We know Tony's bedroom was on the first floor at least in the first four seasons. So other than the study/den, what else was on the second floor? Was there a guest bedroom?
Ay my grandparents house there was a livingroom and a den, we mostly just used the living room for entertaining guests, and the den was used, basically, for ANYTHING ELSE...recreation, relaxing, game playing, movie watching, etc... We also had book shelves with books so it was kinda a study too.
The best e.g. I know of is Mike Brady's den, then they also had a Family Room, I dunno if they ever called it a DEN or not.
I think the only reference to there being more than one place to sleep upstairs was in "Hurricane Jeannie", where both Roger and Dr. Bellows stay the night. Evidently, there is both a bed and a couch, as Roger asks Dr. Bellows what kind of mattress he prefers. Are they in the same room, or are there two rooms? We may never know... :(
shareFine, use it that way. Just know that I keep them separate, both from observation of the show in how Tony primarily used that room, and how we used the terms growing up. We didn't have a study but we did have a den, and it was never used for study (it was the TV room.) We had to use either our bedrooms or the dining room and table, especially if we needed to spread things out. Our dining room also got used for gaming (boards and RPG.)
Yes, you can use those handful of examples showing Tony relaxing, however, he's much like most engineers I've known (including my father) where work is their means of relaxing. Most of the time we see Tony doing his astronaut and engineering work up there. To me, that establishes it as a study, first and foremost.
But take a look at the Brady Bunch. They specifically and repeatedly referred on screen to Mike's private room just off the living room as his den. Yet every time we saw him in there, he was at his drafting board, without exception. If you want to limit your own usage, that's fine, but you can't demand that the rest of the world change for you.
shareI agree with you. The point is, the word "DEN" has 2 usages. Den can be used to refer to a family, rec room, AND/OR it can refer to a study.
I don't think it's that big of a deal, it's simply one of those words that can be used either way and you know what it means by the context.
My aunt and uncle have a BIG house and they have a livingroom, Den, and a family room. Their Den is used basically as an informal living room, to just lounge in and watch TV, read the paper, etc.... LIVING ROOM is just for entertaining guests, not even a TV in it, and their family room is where their grandkids play, watch TV, etc...
Most houses, I don't believe, have studies now days, UNLESS it's a really big house, so this could be why the word Den to refer to a study has kinda lost it's value to a great extent.
I think most modern houses don't have dens or studies, or for that matter family rooms. They're older terms, almost as obsolete to current generations as "parlour" or "foyer." I doubt most people under the age of 30 even know what those are. They're more likely to know "man cave."
shareA study can also be called a den, a den can mean either a recreation room OR an office type room.
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