This is a link to the character cards of New Haven, that EW mentioned in one of her posts. Nice website.
http://www.lesliekuo.net/local/characters/index.html
That's pretty cool but she has her head turned...maybe sometime we will get too see her face...
shareThanks, Brian--nice work in finding this. In order for people to get to Elizabeth's photo more easily, however, here's a more direct link:
http://www.lesliekuo.net/local/characters/photos/elizabeth.jpg
Ms. Kuo's work is quite good--a very nice sense of composition.
All that cycling appears to have been good for Elizabeth--she looks trim and at least ten years younger than her actual age. (We haven't heard from her in awhile; here's hoping that all is well with her.)
One last thought, apropos of nothing but hopefully amusing: have any of you noticed how fast a runner the young Elizabeth was? Check out the scene in HO where the girls get in trouble because of Val's "Camille act": when they escape from the doctor who wants to pump their stomachs, Merrie Spaeth is in the lead, but EW just BLOWS by her and leaves her in the dust (before running smack into Peter Sellers and ruining his latest play for Paula Prentiss). It's really rather amazing! EW's acting career may have sidetracked her from a spot on the US women's Olympic track team... :-)
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She is a very beautiful woman.
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You really do. Are you always this enthusiastic? I first watched Henry Orient in 1964, I was only 10, and like so many kids I sorta kinda developed a crush on EW's celluloid image. That was a long time ago.
(See the link)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390073/board/nest/36377175
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Leslie took a bunch of pics and this was the one she liked. I thought the project was a success, have a bunch of cards, but would like more, know almost evrybody in them. yes, the bike has helped alot with keeping in shape but I am a health nut I guess is the term, have to be given my problems, but just really can't stand the feeling of going to hell, must get out and ride to feel alive and happy.
As for continuing with acting, Merrie is just not interested in that kind of stuff, she must run things be involved with things, big things, like the government and international family planning organizations(she ran one). And I am probably too radical for all the ego nonsense to rise faultlessly within that system. Though I might find a role I can do within a show that won't hang me for the strange choices I would make. It drives me mad that most of the material is about the misfits but the producers are terrified of those who are that way, most stars are really really nice and reliable and conventional, hhhhh. I got in somehow. Then got out somehow.....We'll see.
Good work finding that website!!!!!! I have another pic I found on my floor that the cats unearthed which is full face and even has a painting I did for an art project in town a few years ago in it. It's not my favorite picture but one can see what I look like pretty well. This one I must find a way to enter here.
Honestly you guys help me out alot I know vibrationally. I am abit controvertial which can be problematic need I say. All in all everyone is or will be controvertial, eh? But just to give you an idea, I was standing outside talking to a neighbor and one of his uncles pulled up and told me he was going to hang my cat, hmm, not a wonderful encounter. My cat, Horatio, calls to his friends occasionally rather loudly, how is this different from this mans remark I want to know...better stop, you might have a problem with Horatio yourselves. If I had a website all this would be in there. I would include a letter section, letters I've sent the those I would like to send, all my causes private and public. Somewhere there must be some who will agree with the likes of me....can't please em all, have to be me. Trying to learn the knack of not letting other people bother me. My voice says stay with it, so I do, what else can I do? Gradually gradually it all begins to come together, so great but at times I'm floored, sunk, stymied, a mess.
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You're so enthusiastic, I love it. What do you do? I can't believe you're not on fire, seizing the day, as you say, yourself!!! And I'm trying to do my best to take good care of myself. Hope I'm succeeding. not sure yet. Better than some.....
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I'm glad you feel free to post here, Elizabeth, and I'm happy to have the opportunity to tell you how much you inspired me, all those years ago.
I feel a bit funny checking back (like I'm a lurker), but I did want to have a chance to tell you that.
know what you mean, sometimes I feel funny about checking, and then often am uplifted, if speechless. Really, so much controversy. Must read the novel, it was good to read that brief comment about it.
shareI wasn't sure it was you, but after seeing your bicycle pic I am reasonably convinced it is.
One day about 4 or 5 years ago I watched the movie and went looking for an image of you as an adult. I thought it would be easy. It wasn't. Well that was like a challenge, so every so often I would poke around online and see what I could find.
As far as having your own website, I think you do. It looks to me as if you and everyone else has taken over this one. But don't be so quick to post your art and writings for free. If I remember correctly, back in 1964 I had to pay for a ticket to see Henry Orient. One other thing, I have seen some of your art. My favorite is "Book and Butterfly".
Oh well. March Madness awaits.
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C'mon Brian, give out! We want to see that other picture, too! :-)
Elizabeth, you might want to check your private message area regarding opportunities for you concerning that long-awaited and longed-for web site.
I think "giving away" the type of material you've shared here is a wonderful thing, and a site where you can share journal-type entries (maybe a blog, or something more "stylized") would be a tremendous outlet for you creatively. The ideas about letters you've written, and letters you'd like to write are very intriguing, and would make a great ongoing series of entries for a web site.
As for the art, sharing images on-line will not preclude people from wanting to own prints or even originals, should you decide that you're able to part with them. And, of course, the site can be set up to let people make purchases--it sounds like Brian might be one of your first customers!
By the way, Elizabeth, how's Horatio doing? Tell us some more about him, please! A good friend of mine has four cats and is writing a set of stories about them and their myriad mystical powers--what's great is that their characters in the stories actually mirror their real-life natures!
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Clean it, grill it, and serve it to you on a plate. You know the saying, give someone a fish and they eat for a day.
I was hoping someone else would find it. Anyway, here it is.
http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=29336
As far as her art goes, a Yale student at one time had a link to some of her work, but that link is no longer available. I just happened to stumble across it one day and found several pieces. Elizabeth likes bright colors, but again my favorite is called "Book and Butterfly."
I have been looking around the internet for a few years. Not just for Elizabeth Walker, but all kinds of things. It's an amazing place.
I think FilmSon, Ginger and our other EW supporters will be completely jazzed to see that picture of her "in action." A huge thanks for sharing such a nice catch with us, Brian! As FilmSon would say if he were here, this picture (dig that bullhorn!) shows that EW is definitely still "on fire." :-)
I kinda wish that this would be the picture that ends up as the one you see when you go to the "Tippy Walker" page here at IMDb.
Amazing place, indeed--not least for the fact that there are guys like you with sass and style out there drinking it in.
Elizabeth, not only do you look good, but you are doing good--and that's the most important thing of all. You go, girl (if it's OK in this instance to call you that...)!!! :-)
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You described me as sassy and classy?
Those words have some common letters within them which might make up a better description of me.
There are the rare occasions when I can fake class, or temporarily create the illusion of class, but I can't go the distance.
The rest of you amaze me. You wear your hearts on your sleeve about EW. For that matter, so does EW. I can't do that. My posts tend to be short and to the point, but if you look carefully I end up editing damn near all of them.
I am a fan of EW, and as I have stated, went looking for a picture long ago. I found two. I'm out. No more from me. On the other hand if I was really good at hunting stuff down on the internet I would have found this message board long ago.
The other thing is, I'm not sure how the etiquette works. I don't like talking about EW in the third person, but I'm not sure what to say in the first person.
So I guess I will now address Elizabeth Walker directly. Reading about you has taught me a few things, positive things. You say what is on your mind, you aren't image conscience, and everyone who knows you describes you in very positve terms.
So be well, and enjoy this board, have some fun with it. If I had people on a message board discussing me I would be there every freakin day.
Good for you, Elizabeth — good for you for having the courage to speak out.
I teach college journalism and every year during homeless awareness week, I give my students stories on that topic from other papers. Last year, after reading a series of articles — I think it was called "24 hours in the life of a homeless person" — one of the students, in a voice dripping with sarcasm said, "Are we supposed to feel sorry for these people?"
It hit me like a brick. They really don't know! Living in a small town, they don't see many homeless. Yet they are here. I spend 10 years in a college town about the size of New Haven. I may not be totally aware, but I've seen it first hand. There are various degrees of homelessness. And many, many reasons for it.
I'll say it again, good for you, Elizabeth. Take care of yourself.
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I know that article and am surprised it is so readily available, wasn't that a few years ago now? I did let them have it, noone was coming out with it and I just said as much as I dared and caught hell for it and gladly, but I get into alot of trouble that way alot. Talk spirit at rallies too, like in Zen they like to point out negative attachment is as powerful as the positive, popularize what you want, peace exsists, we can have the world we want, and they go, huh? But atleast I've said it. And to tell you the truth that picture(in the Daily News article) really creeps me out, but it's not the absolute worst I've seen. Wanted to say though there is another picture on that character card website of the Food Not Bombs group that has a nice one of me off to the right. I am 59 now so its hit or miss as too how I come across and I am still quite particular about how that might be, hope that doesn't sound too vain and silly, though I know it does. Don't know what I'm going to do when I have to throw in the old towel and just say well I'm just plain old now, egh. All the asthma drugs too take their toll, prednizone, just the worst truly bad, and the world and people and life just can do me in sometimes, it's a problem. It bothers me that I care so much, I mean I'm an artist why should I care if I look old or sad or whatever, did Samuel Beckett care how he looked? or Monet? or Gandhi? Lots of work to do.
By the way, Horatio is fine and running around yowling and doing his catly things. I think of him as the silver back of my group. He has this crazy beautiful glint in his eye, realy such an affectionate and passionate and funny guy. What if I told you I don't neuter my cats? I want them to have their lives, be themselves and get alot of flack for it, feeling quite freaked out about it right now. Not good. I mean what if it was us, just get it all taken away at the age of 10 or 12, is that right? But I must relent now for the older ones, it's tearing me apart.
As for the homelessness scene, it reflects so much about our society. They say one can tell alot about a group or person by how they treat those weaker or less adavantaged than themselves. The I Ching says when a society has it too good for too long it becomes weak and insensitive...We're not doing such a fine job here. In New Haven it's illegal to lie down on a park bench, there are no publc bathrooms and they throw the shelter residents out at 7 am and don't open again til 4. I know a guy who spent from Nov til Feb in jail for using a Yale bathroom, a nice harmless guy, allbeit usually drunk, but invariably sweet, ugh. So many things to say about it all. The help out community is usually not so helpful except in a nominal way, if you have real talent or have a vision for your life forget looking to those who run shelters or soup kitchens or do outreach, not happening. So frustrating. I'm applying to extreme makeover home edition for a shelter building for my group to run but am stymied by the application because I don't want to run the thing and don't know anyone else who would be as open minded, it's a huge problem. I want to write and paint and proliferate my artistic inventions, but laos love to do things for people, rescue people....Time and Space, only one body, oi.
It's real. It's not supposed to be a picture of someone relaxed trying to look good. It's a picture of someone standing up and stating what they believe. It has an element of power, and it is honest.
And the bullhorn IS awesome.
I read that actresses complain that there are few good parts or roles to play as they get older. Goldie Hawn was on Larry King recently talking about it. She just turned 60 and was on the cover of AARP magazine. I'm not sure why this seems to be true, but I would say to you that your role in life seems interesting to the rest of us.
What I find strange is that people are homeless all over the country (and the world) in every city and town. The reaction after Hurricane Katrina (and the tsunami) show that people are willing to help, but apparently it takes a natural disaster.
I live three time zones from Connecticut. Our officials were only too happy and proud to show off the preparations that were being made for incoming people. Somewhere I believe I read your Governor was willing to take in several hundred of New Orleans' homeless.
I suspect that the people who were actually homeless BEFORE the hurricane in New Orleans, the REAL homeless people, got some support that homeless people in other areas have never experienced.
At any rate, I'm sorry for posting this picture if it is something you don't like.
Careful, Brian, your "class" is showing!! :-)
And by the way, that was "sass" and "style," but I think you just earned the word I didn't use. Once you've read EW's posts, it's awfully hard to stay away--her spirit just radiates out from her writing. Right now I think she can use some support, and that's what we're here for--to give some long-distance TLC to someone who tries to live TLC (which ain't an easy way to live!!!).
Elizabeth--Brian's right. You look fine. It's hard not to obsess about it, I'm sure, the movies and the Hollywood thing are hard to shake. It's worse for women because once they're no longer young and the flavor of the month, it's the slag heap. So unfair. But methinks you still have a ways to go before you have to "throw in the towel"...
And cheer up--some of us have no "hit," only "miss" when a camera gets near them! :-)
Can't find you in the Food Not Bombs pic on the web--maybe it's a different picture. The woman at the right of the picture at Leslie's site is not you...
Here in LA, the homeless tend to gravitate to the beach towns--Santa Monica, Venice, and a couple of other towns further south where the local cops are relatively benign (and so is the night-time weather). It's an overwhelming problem, and the organizations here (as my friend with four cats knows, she works for two of them--a shelter and a halfway house) are swamped, often responding by creating more procedural/bureaucratic hoops to jump through.
What was the eventual outcome to the protest effort described in the article? I'm guessing that it wasn't especially satisfactory, because you're so invested in creating a viable alternative.
No public bathrooms in a college town? Unthinkable--couldn't they do something like they do in SF, where they have pay toilets but give out tokens as part of the outlay to the homeless?
Please tell us more about Horatio and his "catly companions"! It's tough to have unneutered cats in high-density areas, people often get testy about it. But I respect your stance. It is often difficult to do the "right" thing in a world that has determined that destructive, expedient solutions are "right" and then strongly suggest/insist that you are "wrong." Yeesh!
We really have to get you over the hump on the web site project--getting it going will have a good effect on you--a place where you can let it all hang out. Good for you and good for others. A "win-win" for everyone. When you feel inclined, the help to do it will be there.
Oh, one last thing for now--did you know that there's a great little winery out here in California that makes an awfully fine cabernet? "But there are hundreds of those, right?" True--but only one of 'em is named CLOS DU VAL. :-)
Don Malcolm
And it's true. I can't read.
What I look forward to is that there are, like myself, up until a few weeks ago, people who haven't found this message board yet. I suspect after the next showing of TWOHO in April that there will be more who will find their way here and be deleighted to see the Elizabeth has been posting.
The other thing is, it's impossible to tell, the way this board is set up, to tell how many posts are read by people who never post.
No, Don, that girl to the right there is me. believe it or not, I have on my black and white skirt and maroon shirt, yes? With a plate in my hand I think.
And hey if you guys can help me get my site up lets go!!!! How do we start?
I think it could be a different picture at Leslie's site, Elizabeth, than the one you're referring to--the girl at the right in the picture I found for Food Not Bombs has short blond hair and is wearing jeans...either they used a different one at the site, or it's been cropped in some way. We can get to the bottom of that later...
For the web site, let's start by deciding what domain name you want to use and getting it registered. That's not a lot of $$, and it can eassily be fronted for you if things are still tight... After that, we brainstorm the types of things you want to do, and start setting up the pages.
The best way to do all that, though, probably isn't done here on the board. If you know how to use the private message function here, feel free to drop me a note, or if you want, click on the dmalcolmjr name and you'll find an email address and a 7-digit number displayed. If you put a 310 in front of those 7 digits, you can then dial the number and we can talk about it (and yes, I'm happy to call you back and save you the $$).
Lots of great possibilites to make it something that covers all of your interests, plus becoming a place where all of these interesting folks can come and interact.
Let's go for it!
Huh, I need to look this up, last I knew I was in that FNB pic.
Will get to you about the site momentarily.
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I, for one, am beyond "pleased" that Elizabeth is visting these boards. I'm a huge fan of her work, especially in Henry Orient and Peyton Place.
Elizabeth - press on and know you have many fans out here rooting for you. And, yes, anything we can do to help you get a website...just ask!
Anything I can do — editing copy, etc — let me know!
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I can identify with controversy, because of my job. I currently work as a newspaper reporter in the midwest.
It continues to amaze me how hot people get about issues. If they would just calm down, and look at the global view, it would be so much easier.
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Has the website ever materialized ? And whst happened to this thread
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Lots of people are doing lots of things.....
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Hi Everybody!
I'm new to this thread, but not this wonderful movie.
I remember this movie like it was yesterday...I even have the musical version! I'm glad to see that Ms.Walker is alive and well and doing good works. Bless her. I look forward to seeing your website when it appears online.
I wish all of you a good day and be well
Perry
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So sorry to have disappeared for sooo long. Don't really know why that happened. Don and the website blew into my life and that seemed like alot to handle, I guess; meeting people can be quite challenging. I had thought the site would just materialize in weeks if not days. Anyway, I hope I will be more inclined to drop by these days again. So much going on eh? politically and well, personally. Many discoveries, many challenges, events, changes.....whewaghhhhhhhh.
Had to go on prednizone again this week sorry if I sound over the top.
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Prednizone unfortunately is the only thing that will restore my breathing when it gets very bad. I will go off it in the next few days. It does strange things to me in many ways, I'm not always aware of how much it effects me, but breathing I can do now.
Doing my best to be happy, get so many emails from everybody about how insane everything is. A recent post by Noam Chomsky on the Israel Palestinian problem has captivated me today. So incredibly frustrating, how can they do it? I yearn for the day simple lying won't be tolerated on any level. Extortion and murder won't even be approached in thought. How did we get this way?
On another note, I am about to move into my own house via Don Malcolm. Very exciting. I will be able to put up my friends and grow what I want and keep most of my grass long and blooming. No harmful chemicals......Could be fun!! The Alden Street Sanctuary I plan to call it.
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This house is a direct result of writing to this website. So thank you all for all your tremendous gifts of support of and interest in me.
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Thanks, Elizabeth, for another intriguing post on the Henry Orient message board. It's always a pleasure to hear from you. Congratulations on getting your own house, and be sure to drop a line to one of these threads to let us know the e-mail address for your website.
shareLet me add my congratulations on your new house, Elizabeth. I wasn't old enough to see WORLD OF HENRY ORIENT when it first opened, so the first time I saw you was when JENNIFER ON MY MIND played at my neighborhood cinema here in Cookeville, Tennessee back in the early 70's. I really loved this film, and can't remember ever being as devastated by a movie character's death as I was at the end of this film. Then years later this movie seemed to play out for real in my own life when I became involved with a girl with the same drug problems as "Jennifer" and she also had a tragic, too early death.
It wasn't until the 80's that I saw WORLD OF HENRY ORIENT for the first time, and fell in love with your character in that film, also. I wish there were more films for your fans to enjoy, but now I'm very excited by the upcoming website. I'll be checking back with this board regularly for the address!!
That's great news, Elizabeth, thanks for keeping in touch here!
Ginger