abandoned stadium
does anyone know where the abandonded greyhound track featured in the film,is? or was?
The next train's gone.
does anyone know where the abandonded greyhound track featured in the film,is? or was?
The next train's gone.
The Staines Greyhound Stadium was in Wraysbury Road, beside the Staines roundabout in Twickenham. It no longer exists - paved over years ago. The new DVD of Seance has an audio commentary by Bryan Forbes and his wife Nanette Newman, which sheds a lot of light on the production of the film. Forbes is one of the most underrated British filmmakers and made some of the best British films of the Sixties; he had a great visual sense, was a fine writer and always got interesting and powerful performances from the actors.
Glad to see your a fan of John Boorman's, Point Blank, Phil. Amazing film. Lee Marvin is also great in The Emperor of the North Pole, which was recently released on DVD in the USA (region 1, NTSC). Well worth picking up if you have a multi-region DVD player.
"We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves in order to be like other people." - Arthur Schopenhauer
Thank you for the information,it is much appreciated!,I've long been a stadium fan & find abandoned examples very atmospheric,[airfields also].Thanks again!
The next train's gone.
No problem, Phil; glad to be of help to someone with great taste in British Cinema!
"We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves in order to be like other people." - Arthur Schopenhauer
That stadium's location has been puzzling me since I first saw this great film.
Thanks for the information.
What a relief.As a fan of speedway racing I've always wondered where that stadium was and have just looked up 'Seance' on the internet specifically to find out the location.Thank you!
shareI remember as a boy passing what looked like an abandoned stadium on the Staines by pass and often wondered what it was - of course last time I went past there a couple of years ago there was no trace. Interesting to find that I didn't imagine it. I have no recollection of the stadium in the film - I will have to watch again.
shareYesterday (14/Nov/2007) on Film 4 we watched 'Seance on a Wet Afternoon'. Not seen it for a while. Still worth watching. I commented to my wife that the stadium looked like an abandoned greyhound track and wondered where it could have been. No problem in these digital times - logged onto IMDB, entered title in search window, and there was my answer. IMDB contributors solve the puzzle yet again!
shareI would like to add my belated thanks to Gordon M for solving the 'mystery of the aabandoned stadium' which has puzzled me (and, apparently, others) for well over 40 years.
(Until now, the only clue I had was seeing a No. 65 bus in a scene near the school
from which the child was abducted, suggesting that the stadium was somewhere to the west of London.)
I don't suppose anybody out there can tell me when Staines Stadium held its final greyhound race meeting?
One of the pleasures of watching old movies like this (as I am at the moment) is seeing such stalwarts as Mark Eden before, as Alan Bradley, he tried to cheat Rita Fairclough out of all her money and then fell under a Blackpool tram, and, even rarer, seeing Gerald Sim NOT playing a vicar!
P.S. For the joker (below) who suggests that the derelict stadium could be Wimbledon, I would like to point out that Wimbledon is one of only two greyhound stadia (the other being Walthamstow) still operating in London, nearly 44 years after 'Seance on a Wet Afternoon' was released!
I was also interested in this stadium, Richard Attenbrough gets to it's remains by turning off the B376 (note the road sign), just west of what is now the M25 junction 13, but in 1964 was the Staines by-pass, the A30.
The greyhound stadium was also used for stock car racing, check out the link and search for Staines:
http://www.petermarsh.freeuk.com/stockcar/misc.html
Also this:
http://www.petermarsh.freeuk.com/stockcar/staines.html
There is also this informative link to British Pathe, the film clip doesn't seem to work:
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=47494
in the scene where you see the b376, he turns in to residential street, is it still there?
shareyou sure is isnt wimbledon, theres a dog track there and i linked to this film via films filmed in wimbledon
shareOn the introduction that Bryan Forbes presents about the film, on the DVD release, he does mention that the abandoned stadium was where the A30 meets the M25 - he actually says it was replaced by the big roundabout there. Therefore, there's no doubt this was the Staines greyhound track, somewhere along the Wraysbury Road, more or less where the M25 flyover now meets the A30.
Haven't heard the DVD commentary, but watched the film on TV today (I recorded it seven months ago). And with a pair of sharp eyes and an A to Z, it's possible to locate the house used for the exteriors of the Savages' home.
Had a look on Google Earth, and the house is clearly still there.
Another thing I noticed is that while Billy Savage is rushing around the West End he passes a theatre which is staging a production of Oh! What A Lovely War. This is just a few years before Richard Attenborough came to actually direct the film adaptation of this show himself for his directorial debut!
And lastly, the entrance to Piccadilly Circus station that we see them enter has not existed for many years. It was on the south side of the Circus near the Criterion Theatre, back in the day when the fountain was further north and traffic went round it (it was shifted a bit further south in the late 1980s).
I love looking at and trying to recognise old film of London & the Piccadilly Circus entrance was confusing me so thanks for helping me 'take off those tight shoes' as Danny Baker would put it.
The part where 'Oh what a lovely war!' screams out made me almost laugh out loud & destroy the tension. It's an amazing coincidence & I'm guessing it would be very close to the time Attenborough got interested in the rights to the play as the film came out only 5 years later.
If you didn't know the whole chronology it would look like a very clumsy attempt at in film humour
Haven't heard the DVD commentary, but watched the film on TV today (I recorded it seven months ago). And with a pair of sharp eyes and an A to Z, it's possible to locate the house used for the exteriors of the Savages' home.
Had a look on Google Earth, and the house is clearly still there.
It doesn't seem to have changed a lot apart from a wall around the front garden
Phil, the exact location is, if you look at the M25/A30 Staines by-pass junction, the bottom left 'lake' of that junction opposite 'Clarendon Service Apartments' - which calls it 'Wraysbury Hall' when you click that (On Google Earth) is where it is/was. Someone has put a 'blue square photo marker' in what appears some German language perhaps - that was where the stadium was. I found a map, which I'm unable to post here of course, from a 'racing forum website' showing where the stadium was in the 50s-60s and was able to pin-point because of the Colne River at Wraysbury Hall. Hope it's a good help mate, good luck ;o)
shareGoogle Earth, with the 1945 overlay shows the stadium quite clearly.