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Probably one of the best films I've ever seen.



How did it take me this long to see this movie!? Everything about this film was superb. The backstory, the character development, the cinematography. Oh my I could go on forever. I cried like a baby at the end, but it still might enter my Top 10 favorites.

I love this quote.

"It don't take long to kills things. Not like it does to grow"

Yes. A thousand times yes.


"One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain."

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Yes this is one of the best movies of all time. I like that quote to.

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I thought this also. Really incredible film.

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I first saw Hud maybe 10 or 12 years ago, and now whenever someone asks me what my favorite movie is I always answer "Hud".

The "killing things" quote is indeed great, but my personal favorite is when Homer warns Lon about the dangers of looking up to Hud:


"Little by little the look of the country changes because of the men we admire".




"I don't want any Commies in my car. No Christians, either."

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I like that quote too bluefellow. There are many great lines throughout the movie. Did you ever hear of "Hud: the man with the barbed wire soul"? This is one of my favorites and is not from the movie, but from the movie trailer.

I first saw Hud in 1964. I was "hooked" by the trailer for coming attractions while watching another movie. The narrator of the trailer said "Hud: The man with the barbed wire soul" and this really peaked my interest. Needless to say, I was not disappointed the next week when I viewed the movie. Hud really did have a barbed wire soul!

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Yeah, very good movie.. I agree. It's in my top 20 movies, for sure. And I can definitely say, that PAUL NEWMAN is my favorite actor.

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My #8 all-time film and Newman's best performance.

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The first "modern" film.

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I am personally at a loss to account for the appeal of this movie, since its central character has no positive qualities.

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At the time this movie was made, it took a lot of guts to make a movie in which the central character has no positive qualities. Everything about this movie is artistically compelling and fascinating, especially in the context of the time in which it was made. The cinematography and direction are superb, the script is great, and the movie is beautifully put together. The performances are intense and heartfelt, and the cast works very well together. What's not to like?

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What's not to like? Hud. He has the charm of a diabetic coma.
(I am not a technical critic, so the production values in the movie mean nothing to me.)

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What's not to like?
How about the fact that the movie turns the complex gray characters of the novel black and white, good and bad?

The Hud of the novel has a few redeeming qualities (such as trying to get his father put away, so he doesn't do any more to wreck the ranch). * His father is a cheap, materialistic bastard, rapidly approaching senility. Lon is fully aware that Hud Is Not To Be Trusted.

Your use of "the sick Western" is an obvious reference to MAD's classic Siegel/Drucker sendup. Perhaps the best moment comes when Hud objects to shooting the diseased cattle -- because it would be so much more fun to see them buried alive.

* It was Homer who bought the infected Mexican cattle, ignoring Hud's warning.

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An "appealing" character doesn't have to be good -- just interesting.

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Like Heinrich Himmler or Lavrenti Beria?

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In The Disney Villain, Ollie Johnston & Frank Thomas explained that all characters -- even bad ones -- have to have appeal. They have to be interesting. That doesn't mean we have to like them.

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I watched it today for about the fifth time. One of the truly rare perfect movies. Slice of a mean redneck life. But I realize that waaay oversimplifies it...

» “Never use an adverb to modify the verb ‘said’…he admonished gravely.” – Elmore Leonard

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Hud is certainly an exceptional film.

But everything subtle in the novel was discarded. This was probably because the director and writers figured the audience would be less likely to strain its collective brain if the gray characters in the book became clear-cut "good" and "bad" people. On this level, Hud is no better than a kiddie Western.


I don't hold the high opinion of Elmore Leonard others do, but much of his advice is good. Except... replacing all dialog verbs with "said" discards a useful tool. Choosing the "right" verb can eliminate three or four other words, and largely removes the need for an adverb.

The embarrassed Walker coughed nervously. "I didn't know she was your wife."

"I didn't know she was your wife", Walker coughed.

Regional dialect is good, if it's correct and used appropriately. I have a screenplay in which a well-educated Bostonian becomes a teacher in Wyoming. Do you expect the cowhands to talk the way he does?

1. Never open a book with weather.
2. Avoid prologues.
3. Never use a verb other than "said" to carry dialogue.
4. Never use an adverb to modify the verb "said"…he admonished gravely.
5. Keep your exclamation points under control. You are allowed no more than two or three per 100,000 words of prose.
6. Never use the words "suddenly" or "all hell broke loose."
7. Use regional dialect, patois, sparingly.
8. Avoid detailed descriptions of characters.
9. Don't go into great detail describing places and things.
10. Try to leave out the part that readers tend to skip.

My most important rule is one that sums up the 10: If it sounds like writing, I rewrite it.

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