I've been birdwatching in Bodega Bay many times, and never in all my years of birding have I heard the birds of that region make sounds anything like the squealing, shrieking ones in the movie!
Tell me, did Hitchcock make the decision to use deliberately unnatural bird sounds? Or was he basing the sound on something he remembered from his native Blighty? Frankly, I find the unnatural sounds false and jarring, and the wrongness of them tends to take me right out of the movie.
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Hitchcock was very aware that Bernard Herrmann's "screeching violins" music for the murders and climax of Psycho had made that movie perhaps more of an audience scream machine than Hitchcock had envisioned. He gave Herrmann a big bonus for his score. But then he made sure NOT to use Herrmann on The Birds for any music.
But he DID give Herrmann credit on "The Birds." Herrmann was billed as something like " sound advisor" and had to SHARE his credit on screen with two other guys: the guys who made the bird sounds come to life via electronic means.
And this brings me to the second point, which is: what an INCREDIBLE burst of luck that Hitchcock "just found" these guys with their electronic sound machine JUST IN TIME to use their sounds on The Birds.
Was this the chicken or the egg? Did the "bird sound guys" come into Hitchcock's office one day just promoting their machine for general sound effects? Or did Hitchcock send out word that he wanted electronic bird sounds in The Birds? Hitchcock's career is rife with these "out of nowhere fortutious choices" on his part.
There is a photograph in Hitchcock/Truffaut of Hitchcock pushing a finger onto a button of the bird sounds machine and yelling as if his ears are hurting. He sharply promoted those bird sounds as much as everything else in the birds, and they are magnificent. Different sounds for different birds. Sudden violent squawks.
And -- possibly best of all -- only the flutter of FEATHERS when the birds attack Tippi Hedren in the attack room. Said Hitchcock, "This is a silent killing, they have trapped her and don't want to alert the family downstairs." Them's some pretty crafty birds.
Also: Hitchcock in one interview of the time said that the screeching violins in the Psycho murders inspired him to replicate the effect with the bird squawks in Psycho. And Herrmann WAS assigned to oversee those sound effects...
I take your point, Otter...but Hitchcock likely would have had a lot more trouble both collecting and "controlling" real bird sounds. These are highly stylized so that they can be manipulated up and down in intensity and size.
The bird attack on the Brenner house near the end was done almost entirely with sounds ONLY (less the bit with the one gull breaking through and bloodying Rod Taylor's hand) and there comes that great SOUND moment when an unseen bird clearly flies into the house's electrical fuse box and dies by shutting off all the electricity in the house. I doubt a real bird could be directed to get this effect.
Yes, the attack at the Brenner house was more effective than some of the earlier attacks, because it was indeed silent and lacking those awful fake bird sounds. Same for the ravens and seagulls massing in the playground, the creepiest moments are when the birds are silent.
And he could have done a lot with real bird sounds there, BTW. The crows and ravens of northern California make some very strange sounds - rattles and croaks and clacks and gurgles, in addition to the kawing and shrieking. Imagine a few subtle sounds like that during the playground scenes...
Yes, the attack at the Brenner house was more effective than some of the earlier attacks, because it was indeed silent and lacking those awful fake bird sounds.
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Well, I am speaking to the attack that has a LOT of sounds -- that was the idea. We barely see any birds at all -- just the gull that breaks through and attacks Taylor's hand. All of the rest of it is the noise of the fake bird sounds, with the Brenners and Melanie running around and hiding in corners from "nothing to see." (Hitchcock had drummers positioned around the soundstage to give the actors "sound cues" to run from here to there.)
There IS a humming silence to Melanie's ascent up the stairs, and then the birds attack in "semi-silence"(just he the flutter of feathers.) And the long final sequence of Mitch tip-toeing to the convertible is "humming silence," too.
It occurs to me that there are FOUR bird attacks at the Brenner house in the movie. Three inside -- the sparrows down the chimney; the mass attack via sound-only; and the upstairs room attack on Melanie -- and one outside (the birthday party.) Only three attacks away from the Brenner home - the school, downtown at the Tides, and the one little peck on Melanie's forehead in the motorboat that starts it all.
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Same for the ravens and seagulls massing in the playground, the creepiest moments are when the birds are silent.
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They are like a motor revving on a car, humming away until the attacks suddenly begin. Part of the suspense in The Birds is wondering WHEN they will stop just sitting around and suddenly go murderous. I also like the idea that the bird attacks are likened to other events in nature: storms. Notice how storms begin with a clear sky, then clouds gathering, then heavy, dark clouds -- then the storm unleashes. And ends. And it all builds up again. Just like the birds -- which are here at once linked to other events in "nature" and, perhaps, to the force of God.
And he could have done a lot with real bird sounds there, BTW. The crows and ravens of northern California make some very strange sounds - rattles and croaks and clacks and gurgles, in addition to the kawing and shrieking. Imagine a few subtle sounds like that during the playground scenes...
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That would be great -- and I'm not familiar with the real sounds of those Northern California birds as you are, but they certainly sound like they would be different. I guess all I can say is that The Birds was a MASSIVELY difficult production for Hitchcock to mount VISUALLY -- getting all those birds to do all those things(whether real birds, puppet birds, or animation birds) and he probably decided to use that one machine to produce stylized bird sounds that he could control right there at the studio.
unnatural?? we get it, you are upset your boy Nolan will never come up with something as brilliant as The Birds, you don't have to lie about the film because of it.