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A few lines I did`nt get. help?


I`m 50 years old, and I`ve seen this movie a number of times over the years. I saw it the other night on TV. I was hoping that by coming here, someone could make some sense out of some things that irritate and puzzle me. There is a scene where James, his father, and stepmother are all out in front of the house arguing. The captain gets mad at James, and James is flabbergasted because he was agreeing with him. His stepmother says,"Why say anything at all?" She says something else too, and offers him a napkin, and says something like,"or will you too?" I don`t get that bit of buisness. Could someone explain it to me? While I`m at it, was James some sort of a leach? He said something stupid to Annie, while talking to her, outside the window of the little house. "Or will you teach me too?" I thought it made no sense.A number of things he says make no sense.... I hope I do! LOL! Any thoughts are welcome.

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Anyone there? I just saw it again....

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Thank you..

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haha only 50 year old I know who says "LOL" :)

-Sierra

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Dearest Sierrra,
You pick up the abreiviations here. Do you have any answers to my questions ????

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I read the play years ago and as I remember some of the family dialogue is cut from the film. On the other hand, all the dialogue in the film is also in the play. I remember in particular that the family grace about wrestling with the angel, ending with James saying "oh, you angel" to the "new and improved" Helen (with table manners) is straight from the theater script.

I wish I recalled the dialogue in the part you're asking about more clearly. The fight in the dining room is so direct and physical, and I was still involved in it, wanting to know how it was turning out. When the film switched to the porch scene, I was unwilling to listen to dialogue that was (to me) self-conciously high-flown. But as the previous poster says, most of it did turn on the idea of a dinner napkin turning into a white flag. Helen's father has stormed out of the room and is about to go to the office, fuming that it's ridiculous to ask that his daughter fold a dinner napkin. His wife gently points out that HE hasn't folded his own dinner napkin, which is still tucked into his collar and hanging down his shirt. He yanks it off, gives it to her, and leaves.

When his father is gone, James says the napkin may as well be his flag of surrender. And (as usual) his tone is so smug, and implicitly critical of everyone else's weakness regarding Helen, that Mrs. Keller asks him if perhaps Helen wouldn't defeat James too, and he might need the white flag as well.

The remark by James, "Will you teach me too?" --

As another poster wrote, James is passive aggressive. He mistakes his own sarcasm for intelligence. He's been watching Helen spelling words into a dog's paw. He tells Anne that Helen doesn't understand that the words have meaning any more than the dog does. She answers that a breakthrough is bound to happen sometime, just as it does with an infant child. But to James, Anne's effort is implicitly stupid. He then asks Anne if she will teach him too -- challenging her, really, and implying that that Anne is deluded if she thinks can change his mind, just as Helen is deluded in her actions with the dog. Understandably, Anne closes the window in his face.




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kressie, Thank you. It all makes sense.

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JAMES: I thought what she(Annie) said was exceptionally intelligent. I've been saying it for years.

KATE: To his (Capt. Keller's) face? Or will you take it(the white napkin) Jimmie? As a flag?

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Regarding James "teach me" line::

I don't wish to sound tacky, but the way he delivered this line made it sound like a sexual proposition - older woman can 'teach' this younger man a thing or two in the sack. I'm probably just over-analyzing it, I don't know. Just a thought.

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Just saw it last night again. Yes, James is trying to make Annie uncomfortable with a double entendre by saying "Will you teach me too?" because at that point, he doesn't have any faith in her.

The napkin thing is Mrs. Keller saying to the Captain "She folded her napkin! Which is more than you did!"

James says something I forget which actually IS on her side and she snaps at him - probably because all she hears when James talks is snark and she misses his point when he's agreeing with her. So he says "I was AGREEING with you!" She's so worn out she just lets him have it and says "Why say anything at all?" (As in, you never help with anything no matter what you say.)

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