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The Death of The 300???


The movie really isn’t all that bad, but I do have a problem with the ending. After all the years of training and fighting they went through I find it hard to believe that the remaining 300 could be taken down by a couple volleys of arrows. I believe they would have probably created a cocoon with their shields like in the recent 300. Though you can never say for sure you would think that the Spartans would have planed for a situation such as occurred in the ending of the film. After all they were a warrior society. I found the ending to be rather weak. Though both films have their strengths I would recommend watching the docudrama “Last Stand of The 300” for a big picture view of the event and Spartan life.

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Not to mention that an arrow can have a lot more penetrating power than is usually accounted for... I don't think it would have been rare for some to go through the shields and into the shield arm. Especially towards the end when they would have been quite battered (for the ones that still held together).

I was rather surprised to see that the Greeks had no archers on their side BTW.

But a battle like this ending with rocks and scavenged weapons is quite likely. Spears break. And swords do as well.

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The Greeks had archers. They were being used earlier in the battle.

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Well that is how they were eventually killed in the recorded history, so I don't see how you can say that is a weak ending.

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I don't believe that is correct, from the herodis (however it's spelled) they died in hand to hand. When Leonidas fell the remaining 300 tried to drag his body away from the attacking forces, but in the end they all died of course.

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I don't believe that is correct, from the herodis (however it's spelled) they died in hand to hand. When Leonidas fell the remaining 300 tried to drag his body away from the attacking forces, but in the end they all died of course.


Someone didn't finish Herodotus. According to here was fierce hand to hand fighting up till almost the end, but the Persians got fed up and pulled back and took the Greeks down with arrows. They didn't die fighting hand to hand. You can still find Persian arrowheads at the site of their last stand if you do a little digging.


Here's how Herodotus tells it.

Two brothers of Xerxes accordingly fought and fell there. There was a great struggle between the Persians and Lacedaemonians over Leonidas' body, until the Hellenes by their courageous prowess dragged it away and routed their enemies four times. The battle went on until the men with Epialtes arrived.

When the Hellenes saw that they had come, the contest turned, for they retired to the narrow part of the way, passed behind the wall, and took their position crowded together on the hill, all except the Thebans. This hill is at the mouth of the pass, where the stone lion in honor of Leonidas now stands.

In that place they defended themselves with swords, if they still had them, and with hands and teeth. The barbarians buried them with missiles, some attacking from the front and throwing down the defensive wall, others surrounding them on all sides.


But, then again, Herodotus wasn't there.



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... but in the end they all died of course.
From a volley of arrows as depicted, whether you like the ending or not.🐭

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300 was designed, shot and marketed as a "cartoon" or a creative artist's take on an obscure event. It never was meant as anything remotely resembling reality.
As such it was pretty good IMO.

In the same vein, Boorman's Excalibur is just as wacky (with the mixing of props covering roughly 800 years) although it may not be as evident to people unfamiliar with the period. It was more "artsy" though. And it had some Wagner.

Maybe 300 with Wagner would have fared better with a lot of its critics.

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