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'Lover Come Back' and 'Mad Men'


"Mad Men" is the critical hit TV series about Madison Avenue ad men and women in early 60's New York City.

Its creator Matthew Weiner evidently made a study of some key fifties/early sixties films in preparing "Mad Men," including "The Apartment" and "The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit" and "The Best of Everything" and "North by Northwest"(about Madison Avenue ad man Cary Grant ROGER Thornhill) and other fifties films about New York City corporate lifestyles.

But, having recently seen it, I can't help believing Weiner didn't take a GOOD look at the Doris Day/Rock Hudson comedy "Lover Come Back" of 1961.

The comedy is about Madison Avenue, and posits Doris Day as a hard-working woman in one ad agency who is feuding with Rock's hard-drinking, womanizing ad man at another agency. In 1961's male world, Rock keeps landing accounts by wining and dining male clients...and plying them with women. Doris works hard on producing smart and interesting advertising campaigns, and gets nowhere in landing those male clients.

It's all light and spoofy and broad. But consider:

Edie Adams plays the curvaceous dancer Rock uses to woo men into signing with his ad firm. And in red hair and tight green dresses, Edie Adams here is a dead ringer for...Joan. Particularly in a scene in which Edie walks along a row of older men, leaning forward so they can see her "necklace."

Rock Hudson is paired with Tony Randall (of course) as his erst-while boss, a rich man who is running the firm that his late father started. Rock is a "self made man from the streets," Tony a rich kid heir to an ad firm,whose attempts to "boss Rock around" don't carry much weight. Why, its...Don Draper and Roger Sterling!

At the same time, Tony Randall's rather small and thin frame and snooty manner is somewhat reminiscent of...Pete Campbell! In fact, Tony's character here is named...Pete!

Ad woman Doris Day has an art director on staff who is pretty clearly...a gay man. (Hello, Sal!)

And Doris herself is a somewhat older version of Peggy: determined to make it in a man's world on the strength of her ideas and work ethic.

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It's all a bit too broad for a direct thematic match with the dramatic "Mad Men," but I know this much: Edie Adams' redhead is as visual a match for Joan as you can imagine in certain scenes.

So I figure Weiner got some inspiration from this movie.

While you wait for "Mad Men" to come back, watch "Lover Come Back" some time. Its...educational.





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"Lover Come Back" is what came immediately to mind when I started watching "Mad Men"!

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Belatedly returning to say: I'm glad that you do.

Its almost TOO close a match, visually at least.

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I was just thinking the same thing and I haven't even SEEN madmen. But read about it and hear about it in the media.

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Sorry for the very late response. I am a fan of MM, but came very late to it (this year) and just caught up with LCB after about 45 odd years. I was so struck by all the similarities too and I just mentioned to a family member every point you raised!

And to think I was crediting Mathew Weiner with all that creative thinking!
I was interested to see Carl Reiner (Rob's dad) wrote the screenplay. Perhaps MW should pay him royalties!

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Weiner does nothing unique or unusual ...

He wrote for two seasons on The Sopranos, easy to see his use of wounded child, flashbacks, dream sequences were learned from Chase, creator/show runner.

DD is based on Draper Daniel's ad man of the 60's, and MW admits it.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2009/I-Married-a-Mad-Man/

Add to this a staff of eight writer's, (high turnover), who research and write dialogue for the various character's leaves little for Weiner to do but self-promote ... :D

Nothing original with MM ... :D

Reminds me of the many Benjamin Button fans who devolved into a complete meltdown once they were encouraged to see the similarities between BB and Forest Gump ... :D.

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