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so,this passes for a classic?


what a muddled,pointless,obtuse,overrated film.it doesn't even seem to know what it's about.what are we supposed to take away from it(if anything)because i don't think it was supposed to be ambiguous.the ending is beyond ridiculous,and no offense to shirley jones,burt lancaster or richard brooks,but if they had to give somebody an oscar for this,why not jean simmons? ironically,she gave her finest performance here.she's the only reason to watch this crap,which was already dated in 1960.brooks was one of the best directors working around this time,but this is not something he should have gotten accolades for,let alone an oscar.

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The most honest movie ever made about the human race .

Over the head of the above poster .

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could you make a more meaningless "deep" sounding statement?

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Wow. Did you forget to take your meds or something?

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no,i just had an opinion.okay with you?

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Opinions are what make us human. I like it for many reasons. I can also understand that it seems over the top and cartoonish. I'm not sure what revivalism of the 20s was really like. To me this movie is both dated and current, both a caricature and yet real. I can see that some of the staging, acting, style, ideas seem dated and cartoonish, but so much of the true meanings, what is true faith, how do you grow churches, how much should we believe and what is the place of doubt, etc. are still so relevant and probing.

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Joshua, I think as you get a little older, you'll start to appreciate the recognizably classic movies.

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Do some reading on Amiee Simple McPherson and perhaps you won't think this movie is so over the top, since her life was that of a phony, a lair & a nut cake and a train wreck!

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i do appreciate classic movies. i just don't appreciate this one.

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You have to ask yourself what you're looking for in a movie.

I thought this was fantastic. Even just 20 minutes in I was audibly telling myself how great it was. Burt Lancaster's character seems realistic, to say the least. A person blessed with a sharp tongue and a quick wit who genuinely believes in a god and his earthly and ethereal powers yet lives and gives in to temptation just as any other "child of god."
You have another woman whose only sin before meeting Elmer is having gone to the length of creating an entire character for herself that she can tell herself is completely pure, and innocent, only to put this vision on display in the hopes of creating hope for other Christians or revivalists or what have you (not too damnable in the great scheme of things).
You throw these two people together and you have the extreme hot and cold that can create a hurricane of destruction, and that's exactly what happens here - albeit through some good old fashioned symbolism.
I liked it so much, I was beginning to tell myself that a premium channel like HBO would do well to make this into a series (especially after I'd read on this forum that the movie ends about halfway into the book).

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