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Lancaster was TERRIBLE in this movie.


He won the Oscar for this???

"Baby, I don't care."

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I do not agree! There is some 1950s style overacting, but that's what they did back then. I thought he was incredibly charismatic and engaging.

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I also do not agree...Burt Lancaster was overflowing with charisma! What a movie, loved the ending, great movie!

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I agree with you that he was charsmatic and engaging. I think bad acting happens now, then, before, after, etc. I see some pretty cheesy acting in some of today's movies. Then again, did Lancaster's character call for this? I think so.

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Obviously, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and the viewing public didn't agree.

This is one of Lancaster's most definitive screen performances, and, as one of his childhood friends stated to him in a letter after the film's release, one closest to his own personality.

True, the performance is very broad and flashy. The Gantry character is supposed to be broad and flashy, a hail-fellow-well-met, fast-talking heel of a traveling salesman who finds what he believes to be the perfect con in Sister Sharon's evangelical tent-revival meetings.

The whole point of Lancaster's performance as Gantry, the former disgraced- preacher-turned-traveling salesman, is the easy adaptability of his all-purpose sales pitch to the larger, ready-made crowds of the religiously exploited.

Lancaster was excellent in the role, and his Oscar for Best Actor was well-deserved.

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I totally agree. This role called for flash and an over the top performance. Lancaster delivered on all counts with this (I believe his best performance ever). I also like his "over the top" acting in "The Rainmaker" but this is a performance that all young and new actors should study in order to become a real "actor" not just an imitator. This is acting at it's absolute finest!

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I don't generally like Lancaster but am quite spellbound by his performance as I am watching it now for the first time.

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Echoing the other posts. Lancaster was dynamic in this.

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But I still think he overacted atrociously.

"Baby, I don't care."

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As long as the character allows it and you've got enough charisma, I don't think there's such a thing as overacting.

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Well, as writen by Sinclair Lewis, this is a character that pretends, so if he look like he's overacting, it is Elmer Gantry who's overacting to get the fake gravitas apeal to atract evangelicals.

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You obviously haven't watched much of Pacino, De Niro and Nicholson in the past 15-20 years. Now, that's overacting!

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In the case of Pacino: Always.
In the case of Nicholson: Often.
In the case of De Niro: Occasionally.
In the case of Lancaster: Never. And certainly not in this film. Anyone who's seen a preacher can testify to that. Can I get a witness?

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Oh Oh Witness Here! Yes, I grew up in the Fundamentalist Christian church! I've heard my share of hellfire and brimstone preachers who end their sermons by grabbing heads with both hands sqealing the words "You're Healed"! Most of them are fake... BUT in order for there to be a counterfeit, there first has to be a genuine. In order to tell the differeance between the real and the counterfeit you have to spend a lot of time in your prayer room and since praying is generally a thing of the past, people are falling for anything these days. or mostly just falling away completely.

I didn't like this film because I do have a side to be that screams blasphemy when I see the name of God taken in vain and the Holy Bible being used as a prop. It tends to ignite my angry righteous indignation

I've seen this film (in parts) and I think Lancaster did a wonderful job. I woud like to see what one of the posters on this board referred to as the "bitch-slapping" I guess it's the fight between the Amy McPherson character and the Shirley Jones character? Or did the slap come from a man upon Shirley Jones character? I'd like to see that "bitch-slappin" if someone can tell me where to find it.

WarPed - You forgot to add Rod Steiger to your list of notorious overactors! That scene in The January Man still haunts me!

Count No Man Lucky Til He's Had A Good Death ~~ Euripides~~

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It's Shirley Jones who gets bitch-slapped. She's a hooker who tries to set up Elmer Gantry with a hidden camera, and when the stunt fails, her pimp takes it out on her. I'm not sure if that scene is available online. It doesn't seem to be on YouTube.

This film is quite loaded against Christianity from the opening frame. I'm actually surprised a major studio released this. But Burt Lancaster is completely authentic, and in some ways it's refreshing to see a preacher who's so openly sleazy instead of putting on airs.

As for the overactors, I'd add Ben Kingsley and, often, the great Richard Burton to the list.

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But I still think he overacted atrociously.
by - Ipsissimus on Tue Oct 30 2007 01:21:56
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I've enjoyed Lancaster in other movies, but I agree. He's at "eleven" on the volume knob whether he's in a revival tent or he's talking to a friend here. I found this movie exhausting.

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The style of acting has changed. Though Sean Penn has put in a few over-acting performances.

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if you think his portrayal is unrealistic look at Jimmy Swaggert.

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Good point!

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This performance is one of the show stoppers in America cinema. He is suppose to be over the top, and slimy and hateful. And BTW Lancaster never in his whole career ever did a terrible performance. And Shirley Jones, She took a chance with this movie. Before she played a virginal singing ingenues, this showed you that she was capable of way more. There us not a actor working today with maybe the exception of Gene Hackman that is in the same category as the Lancaster's and the Pecks or Cagney's. I believe today a lot of younger people who never saw these great actors have been so use to the mediocrity we have been seeing for the last 2 decades we sell ourselves short and do not know great when we see it. People now think pretty boy posers like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt are good actors, and that is very sad, no wonder the OP said he doesn't care. The actors who were considered B actor are better then most of the big ones today.

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Lancaster played the part of Elmer Gantry to perfection. Who else could have pulled this off?

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Saw this for the first time last night and HATED every minute of it.
Ridiculous script - I couldn't figure out who these people were and
the pace was snailsville. Lancaster was fine, but the movie was
overblown, absured and BORING. When dummy Simmons burns alive at the
end, my friends and I howled with laughter. Silly, silly film.

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Lancaster was overacting in a part that calls for overacting. Watch a televangelist at work. They overact. Fortunately, Lancaster has the charisma to carry it off. Many of todays actors overact and we love it. Remember Al Pacino in "Scarface" or "Scent of a Woman"? How about Robert DeNiro in "Cape Fear"? Joe Pesci "Good Fellas"? We memorize their lines and do impressions.

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A pox upon you gbennett5, you pernicious lout! Never darken Burt's door again! Burt Lancaster was an actor of complete and utter brilliance, and I feel deeply sorry for loutish simpletons like you and the poor misguided OP, with your few melting oscillating neurons gasping for a shred of taste, clarity or human dignity! as Elmer would say... get thee behind me gbennet5!

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Get therapy. You're in desperate need of it.

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Wow I need therapy because I didn't like Lancaster in this movie. I suggest that anyone who reacts with so much hostility because of an opinion of a performance in a movie is the one in need of therapy.

"Baby, I don't care."

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Yep. You need therapy

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Hey Monkeyfist, gbennett5 probably thinks that Nicholas Cage is a great actor. He needs to look at guys like Lancaster, Holden, Peck, Stewart, Fonda and Douglas more often.

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Seeing you and your friends "howling" with laughter would have been entertaining, a reaction to my post almost as extreme as Lancaster's performance.

"Baby, I don't care."

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Are you you kidding me with this stupidity?
It should have been easy and obvious to see that the two posters you responded to here were replying to gbennett, NOT to you. Just look, it doesn't take any genius whatesoever to figure it out if you do some simple reading. Is gbennett your sockpuppet, are you looking for trouble, or are you simply a moronic, computer-illiterate fu-king imbecile?

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