Aimee Semple McPherson
Did anybody else think that the Sharon Falconer character was supposed to be Aimee Semple McPherson? The parallels seem really obvious...even her white robes are a dead ringer? What does anybody know, if you know?
shareDid anybody else think that the Sharon Falconer character was supposed to be Aimee Semple McPherson? The parallels seem really obvious...even her white robes are a dead ringer? What does anybody know, if you know?
sharewas out to make the comparison. Remember he wrote this novel in the 1920's, when McPherson was at her height. Simmons is absolutely stunning in the role and ought to have won an Oscar for her portrayal. The last 20 minutes of this film are among the best I have ever seen.
You're too short for that gesture.. besides, it went out with Mrs. Fiske.
It was definitely supposed to be McPherson. Jean Simmons along with everyone else in the film was rendered lifeless by the thousand watt Burt Lancaster.
shareI studied Sinclair Lewis, and, yeah, she was an influence at the time of the writing. I've seen the movie only once and don't remember it all, but I'd say the book was better.
shareSaw the movie first and loved it. Read the book later and realized they'd given the movie a different, hollywood positive ending. Still loved the movie.
Also enjoyed the book, liked Sinclair Lewis' writing style, but he seemed to lose control toward the end, and the story (and Elmer) sort of wandered around repeating things in different places without adding anything new thematically.
Apparently Lewis was a bit meticulous, and would write out full biographies of every character, even minor ones, before writing his novels. Interesting.
It's too bad the ethos of the time didn't allow for someone like Jean Simmons to just flat out portray Aimee Simple McFearson as she really was: a barbie-popping, adulterous, lying NUTJOB who got rich off the extraordinary madness of crowds (as they say)! Now THAT would be get just about ANYBODY an Oscar!
sharea barbie-popping, adulterous, lying NUTJOB who got rich off the extraordinary madness of crowds (as they say)!
. . . . . like the endless procession of Hollywood and sports "celebrities" whose self-aggrandizing publicity machines dominate and monopolize television,magazines, websites and talk shows? Do you truly believe Nick Lachey, the Olsen Twins or Christina Aguilar have anything of substance to say or have the real answers to anything?
Please consider the fact that the very reason people turn to Christ is because they realize they are broken and need His help. "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"; Romans 3:23; That means you, me, and everyone which makes keeping your eyes on Christ even more important. Man and his institutions will always fail in one way or another because Man is not perfect. Christ will never fail you. Read 1 John for a look at his true nature and message. I fail my Savior every day but look to Him to guide my steps in a way that honors and reflects the gift of eternal life received through His grace alone.
Don't have lots of time to get into a cyber discussion, but I wanted to at least provide a thought for you to meditate and pray about.
I wouldn't use those exact words...but yes that was the point!
All of the people in the movie (but perhaps for the newspaperman and the girl-Friday to Sharron Falconer) were very flawed and sinful people. But they did try to help people...and themselves. Love the sinner and hate the sin...
Rather than compare the movie to present-day celebrities I would compare Elmer Gantry and Sharron Falconer to televangelists and other spiritual leaders of the media age. As another mentions on this topic, at this time where our politicians trot-out their sprituality for votes, and spiritual leaders run for politics, Elmer Gantry is a story to be reviewed.
I think it is also about the power of personal charm and talent in one individual and what pit-falls are a part of such notice and expectation. Those with such "mojo" can influence other, weaker people. Burt Lancaster pulls out some major mojo for this part...and also displays a terrific singing voice.
I don't know why the review stars are so low on this movie at imdb??
johnzcomp sez:
". . . . . like the endless procession of Hollywood and sports "celebrities" whose self-aggrandizing publicity machines dominate and monopolize television,magazines, websites and talk shows? Do you truly believe Nick Lachey, the Olsen Twins or Christina Aguilar have anything of substance to say or have the real answers to anything?
No I don't.
They're all as deluded and stuck on themselves as Simple Aimee was, only they've got LESS right to open their mouths to do anything but try to sing. Just because I run Simple down in a sentence or two, doesn't mean I automatically worship the ground any OTHER deluded celebrities walk on, so the bible can stay in the pew for now. I prefer intellectuals who actually try to better the world and, failing that, the minds of those who choose to study them (hell, I suppose you could even add Jesus the HUMAN philosopher to that list, but I'm thinking more progressively than that at the moment).
As I said before, she was NUTS. And so are the Olsen Twins. Both friggin' NUTS. Christina Aguilera is just plain orange these days, so I'm not even sure she's human anymore, just 95% bottle tan and 5% water. And Nick Lachey was never anything beyond Jessica Nimrod's sausage. And yeeesss, I'm sure they've all donated to charities, started charities, or done good deeds in the world. But that doesn't offset the fact that they're all useless celebrities who should keep the good deeds to themselves and stick to doing what we PAY for them to do: dance their little dances and sing their little songs and ruin their little lives to entertain us.
Simple Aimee told people how to live. People don't need to be TOLD how to live; far too many people back then, and today, just didn't realize that. They'd do a perfectly acceptable job if left to their own devices. We don't need babysitters who tell us one thing, but live by a different set of rules for themselves.
Like Simple Aimee.
I wouldn't dismiss Aimee Semple McPherson in such an offhand way. She had her failings, yes, but it seems to me that to speak of her as simply a hypocritical com artist is far too simplistic and inaccurate. If you read her writings and the contemporary accounts, you will see that she was a very thoughtful and sincere believer.
Although I have many qualms about some of her methods and her personal life was a tragic disaster, I think she did do some good in her life. She was a far cry from the sleazeball likes of Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. Regardless of what you think of her, she was a complex, fascinating player in Modern American history and deserves more than a few dismissive sentences.
And I agree that Jean Simmons did a great job as a conflicted, charismatic Semple McPherson-like character.
I suggest you read Daniel Mark Epstein's biography of Aimee Semple McPherson. It is a very even handed and scholarly account of her amazing and contradictory life.
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Hi Archer1949:
Wonderful lines you've written. I like to read those who can see below an issue and balance what could be a devestating inditement of a movement that represents both the best and worst of America.
Jerry Falwell is a sleezeball. Worse he's not very astute. Neither is Robertson. They fiddle when Rome burns. They have wasted the power the right took decades to build. (By the way I'm so left wing, I don't register.)
They are worse than McPherson. She sold religion. They are interfering with things they don't have the background or expertise to deal with.
Religion is a necessary part of America. From the corner store to the constitution to the white house, but it's not meant to be misused. And currently it might be.
Jean Simmons is amazing. I'm surprised she was not nominated. She certainly deserved to be.
Take good care
Wow, didn't know anyone had responded all these months later!
But you know, I still stand by everything I said about Semple McPherson. She was a kook.
archer1949 says "If you read her writings and the contemporary accounts, you will see that she was a very thoughtful and sincere believer."
It's beyond question that the absolute best con men (and women) are the ones who actually believe the gospel they preach, and by "gospel" in this case I mean just about anything they try to sell us, and NOT just religion. Most of these sleazeball televangelists (or self-help gurus, or whatever) wouldn't be as successful as they are if they didn't actually convince themselves—somewhere along the line—that they believed in not only the product, but the IMPORTANCE of the THE IMAGE they were peddling to the people, and the otherworldy powers they possessed to pull it off (like Aimee's "Faith Healing," still one of the most common con jobs of all, and so easily pulled off!), It's not about belief in Christianity—as anyone can believe in any religion without being TOLD to or, better yet, not at all—but the firm belief that it was THEIR MISSION to sell it to the great unwashed and that they were/are somebow imbued with special power to make it happen. Once they get a taste of the euphoria that comes with whipping their followers into a frenzy (supposedly easier in those days, but nothing's really changed), and the money that soon follows to build a better mission, and more often a better life for themselves without actually doing hard labour, it's simply too lucrative to stop.
And audiences for this crap weren't totally stupid. Gullible, but not stupid. Then as now, they needed the CONVICTION of the person selling them on the concept, to bolster their own conviction in the concept. Otherwise, they'd have moved on to the next flim-flam artist who told them what they already believed.
What Semple-McPherson was selling was as it always has been and always will be: the IMAGE of the "chosen" do-gooder cleaning up the sins of a country whose sins never really needed cleaning up, and continue NOT to need cleaning up. It's all subjective. One man's dirty sin is another man's harmless pleasure. And I'm not talking about murder, drug abuse, alcoholism or any other extreme form of vice, I'm talking about the kind of stuff Aimee and her ilk were so outspoken against: ALL levels of vice for which they, naturally, set the acceptable limits (which was usually none), but then usually crossed when everyone's heads were turned.
Meanwhile....
She spoke in tongues. Which is really just self-delusion manifesting itself in a hyper circumstances
She FAKED HER OWN DEATH, then FAKED HER OWN KIDNAPPING, in order to cover up her horizontal mambo sessions. After all, she was only human, but didn't want any of her followers knowing that she had a crazy appetite for sex just like anyone else, so she LIED, LIED and LIED some more.
She violated the rules of her own church by marrying again (third time, was it?). Personally, I don't care how many times people marry, then or now, but when you publicly set RULES about it for your sheep, you should probably try to live up to them yourself.
Finally, she kills herself with an overdose of barbies.
And these are just the defining moments. So many others, so little time.
She shoulda died of Malaria in Hong Kong. Woulda saved us all a lot of pointless debate about the ridiculous things the voices in her head (and nowhere else) to her to perpetuate to the world.
I'm also embarrassed that she was actually a Canadian by birth.
Thanks for the biography recommendation - I will definitely read it.
I also appreciate your balanced post about her life.
As for how the book explains that Sharon Falconer "saw herself another Mary Baker Eddy, an Annie Besant, a Katherine Tingley." (p.210).
So, yes, Aimee Semple McPherson can be added to the list.
Mary Baker Eddy was not an evangelical Christian. Her beliefs were very far from Biblical. I haven't heard of Besant or Tingley, but I don't see how Eddy can be compared to McPherson. JMHO
shareA great film on Aimee's life is "Sister Aimee:The Aimee Semple McPherson Story," written and directed by Richard Rossi.
shareTo all who have denigrated McPherson: I'm curious - have you ever heard her speak?
I ask this, because I've heard of her, but don't know much about her, and never had opportunity to hear her speak.
I would like to read a completely unbiased biography of her life, if there is such a thing.
I was wondering the same thing. There certainly seem to be a lot of similarities.
shareI heard that the first time I saw the movie. It was also said that Elmer Gantry was based on Billy Sunday. Similar style.
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