Missing the Point


The Andy Griffith Show originally aired from 1960 to 1968, mostly durin' the presidential administrations of Democrat John F. Kennedy and Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson. Back then, there was much less partisan bickerin and much more gettin along. Remember, the show started only fifteen years after World War II ended, and Democrats and Republicans in the United States fought alongside each other, often shoulder-to-shoulder to win that war for the Allies. So if you are a pitchin' a hoot and a holler about Andy Griffith bein' a Democrat, you are only half a century too late.

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Well if you knew your history you would also know that the democratic party had a completely different constituency in the south. Democrats where Andy lived were as they would say today - racists. Remember, Lincoln was a republican and the people in the south had long memories. It is why you had places like Georgia carving confederate heroes in the side of a mountain.

Think about this... can you ever recall a single black person in an episode?

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Just once, a black woman in a crowd when Barney accidentally caught the escaped prisoner, early on in the series. After that, no … at least, as I remember it. I could be wrong.

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Did you forget about this episode with Rockne Tarkington ?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0512539/

This is the only episode I can recall with a black lead, tho a few had black extras like the episode you mentioned.

Perhaps you don't know the show as well as you believe you do.


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Google indicates you copied the info in your post from answers.com.

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Actually, no, just going from memory of the B&W years.

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I know my history. While The Andy Griffith Show was running in prime time on television, as the strength of the civil rights movement grew, John F. Kennedy made the passage of a new civil rights bill one of the platforms of his successful 1960 presidential campaign. Kennedy's vice president, Lyndon Johnson served as chairman of the President's Committee on Equal Employment Opportunities.

Just five days after President Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963, President Lyndon B. Johnson went before Congress and spoke to a nation still stunned from the events in Dallas that had shocked the world.

Lyndon Johnson made it clear he would pursue the slain President's legislative agenda—especially a particular civil rights bill that Kennedy had sought.

"No memorial oration or eulogy could more eloquently honor President Kennedy's memory than the earliest possible passage of the civil rights bill for which he fought so long," Lyndon Johnson told the lawmakers.

"We have talked long enough in this country about equal rights. We have talked for one hundred years or more. It is time now to write the next chapter, and to write it in the books of law," said Lyndon Johnson.

On July 2, 1964, Lyndon Johnson (Democrat) signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law in a nationally televised ceremony at the White House.

The most sweeping civil rights legislation passed by Congress since the post-Civil War Reconstruction era, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- signed into law by Lyndon Johnson (Democrat) -- prohibited racial discrimination in employment and education and outlawed racial segregation in public places such as schools, buses, parks, and swimming pools.

In addition, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 laid important groundwork for a number of other pieces of legislation including the Voting Rights Act of 1965 -- signed into law by Lyndon Johnson -- which set strict rules for protecting the rights of African Americans to vote.

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And if you really knew your history you would know that the south didn't embrace those civil rights. Remember the south has George Wallace fighting every inch against civil rights. The simple truth is the democratic party in the south was very much against civil rights. Yes Johnson pushed them, because he was trying to pander to the blacks and get them to become democrats... he was successful in that. But Johnson cared nothing about civil rights he was only doing it for the votes. The sad fact is the blacks in America have been viewed by the democratic leaders as pawns to be used and abused, not really embraced as equals.

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If Thomas998 really knew his history, he would know that more Democrats voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than voted against it. If Tommy998 really knew his history, he would know that Wallace physically blocked African American students Vivian Malone and James Hood as they attempted to attend classes at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa.

Thomas998 thinks he knows, but the simple truth is Tommy998 doesn't know and he doesn't know he doesn't know. He's entitled to his own opinion, but he's not entitled to his own facts IF he had ANY.

A strong states’ rights advocate -- conservative leanings -- Wallace stood in front of the door (surrounded by national news media) and announced his resolute opposition to the integration of the school. “I stand here today, as governor of this sovereign State, and refuse to willingly submit to illegal usurpation of power by the Central Government,” he said.

Kennedy responded by federalizing the Alabama National Guard and ordering 100 troops to escort the students into the campus. When the troops arrived, Wallace stepped down. Hood and Malone–whose future-brother-in-law Eric Holder became the nation’s first African-American attorney general–enrolled.

Wallace’s support for segregation insensed Kennedy who later that night gave a momentous and historic speech on civil rights, a moment seen by many historians as one of the turning points in the civil rights movement.

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What an ignorant cunt you are. Did I say all democrat were against it? I specifically spoke only of democrats in the SOUTH... I was never speaking of all democrats, so if you do as I said and look at the Southern democrats in the senate that voted for or against the civil rights bill of 1964 you see the following voted against it...
South Carolina 2 democrats against
North Carolina 2 democrats against
Virgina 2 democrats against
Florida 2 democrats against
Georgia 2 democrats against
Tennessee 2 democrats against
Louisianna 2 democrats against
Alabama 2 democrats against
Missisippi 2 democrats against
Arkansas 2 democrats against...

Of the 11 original confederate states 10 were held by democrats in the senate and all voted against the bill... Only Texas had 1 democrat in the senate that voted for the bill

So if you think that isn't proof that the democrats in the South were completely different than they are today then you are beyond hope.

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You're getting all upset because I'm putting the facts out there and you can't handle it, princess. I understand. Grab a kleenex, dry your eyes, and blow your nose.

Yes, all those southern states were Democrat and voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. When the Civil Rights Act passed, they couldn't handle it. Giving African Americans the full rights that everyone should have was much more than they could handle. Those racist blue Democrat states changed their political party and became racist red Republican states. Today, every southern state is Republican red. No, I certainly don't need any "proof" from any conservative "sources" who lie as much as Fox News does

In total, 46 Democratic senators voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. In total, 27 Republican senators voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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President John F. Kennedy's Civil Rights Address, June 11, 1963

https://youtu.be/ZPGrpSbp1oA

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Learn to read you dumb cunt, everything I said was true and while you admit it you then start rambling on about something else. Learn to read and write before you play with adults, okay boy?

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Listen, princess, the only thing you said that was true today is senators from the southern states voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You can't argue because you have no facts and I would bury you where you stand.

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I bet you use that same epithet with everyone who's embarrassing you in an argument. It's a reflection of your low intelligence.

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Keep digging that hole boy, the world just loves to watch an idiot dig their own grave. Okay boy?

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There you go again, dipshit. The lights are on but there's nobody home.

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It really hurt when someone calls you what you are really are - boy.

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When you call me a "boy" without good reason, I consider the source. You're a gnat of no real importance.

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boy

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In his televised address to the nation, Kennedy quickly pivoted from the news of the day and Wallace’s segregationist tactics to make an emotional and reasoned plea for all Americans to embrace the civil rights movement.

“The heart of the question is whether all Americans are to be afforded equal rights and equal opportunities, whether we are going to treat our fellow Americans as we want to be treated,” he said. “If an American, because his skin is dark, cannot eat lunch in a restaurant open to the public, if he cannot send his children to the best public school available, if he cannot vote for the public officials who will represent him, if, in short, he cannot enjoy the full and free life which all of us want, then who among us would be content to have the color of his skin changed and stand in his place?”

“One hundred years of delay have passed since President Lincoln freed the slaves, yet their heirs, their grandsons, are not fully free,” Kennedy continued. “They are not yet freed from the bonds of injustice. They are not yet freed from social and economic oppression. And this Nation, for all its hopes and all its boasts, will not be fully free until all its citizens are free.”

Kennedy outlined plans for federal legislation to help bring an end to segregation. Despite the opposition, Kennedy moved forward. Within a week of the address, he began working with Congress on civil rights legislation. Months later, after Kennedy’s assassination, then-President Lyndon Johnson picked up the civil rights cause, leading to the signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965.

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The simple truth is when Democrat Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the racists turned Republican red. They abandon the Democratic Party and found a permanent home in the Republican Party.

Johnson suspected that would happen. He was proven correct.

But passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was the paramount objective, and Johnson and the Democratic Party were willing to take that risk to pass the Civil Rights Act.

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According to Republican conspiracy theorists and Republican soothsayers who can see through the concrete walls of the White House and hear statements spoken from other worlds,Lyndon Johnson said, "I'll have those N*****s voting Democratic for 200 years." It's never been proven that Lyndon Johnson actually spoke those words. They're false propaganda.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lbj-voting-democratic/

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"The blacks in America have been viewed by the Democratic leaders as pawns to be used and abused, not really embraced as equals" ~thomas998

For a reply to that, I'll refer to more modern times. Andy Griffith would oblige me to do that.

Democrats nominated an African American, Barack Obama, to run for president of the United States twice; Democrats elected an African American, Barack Obama, president of the United States twice.

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Malcolm X felt bthe same as Thomas998 in 1960. www.budgetfilms.com/clip/13991/

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When has the Republican Party ever nominated an African American to run for president of the United States? Never. When has the Republican Party ever elected an African American president of the United States? Never.

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On August 6, 2012, Donald Trump tweeted. "An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that Barack Obama's birth certificate is a fraud."

Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States: "NO person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

If Republican legislators had PROOF that Barack Obama is a fraud, those same Republican legislators violated the United States Constitution by not enforcing Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution by not impeaching Obama.

Obama. Nominated twice. Elected twice. Remained in office for eight years. NEVER IMPEACHED.

WHY NOT?

Because in those eight years Obama was in office, Republicans never had any evidence that Obama is not a natural born American citizen...no evidence, no proof, no impeachment. That never stopped Republicans from making eight years of FALSE ALLEGATIONS.

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Thomas, you racist PoS.

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Learn to read boy, nothing I said was remotely racist. Simply restating a past event is never racist.

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Only the most boring, uptight people try to assign their political religions to all of these old actors, old historical figures, I've even heard or read people trying to declare that Jesus was a democrat or republican.

I don't even engage such people in conversation. Life is too short for that.

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I wish I had your wisdom. Sometimes ignorance sucks me in.

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I'm pretty sure Jesus was an independent thinker. ;-)

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BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!

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