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Quote about the source material's author --


Sam Moskowitz said this about M. P. Shiel who wrote the 1901 novel "The Purple Cloud" from which this 1959 end-of-the-world drama was adapted --
"It is indeed ironical that a man (flawed but occasionally brilliant) who was an anti-Oriental, ardent believer in Aryan superiority, and a war lover is to be posthumously ennobled as an apostle of peace and racial tolerance every time The World, the Flesh and the Devil is shown, as it will be for many years to come."

This quote appears in David Kyle's great book, "Pictorial History of Science Fiction" (pp 37, 38). Kyle went on to say, "When Matthew Phipps Shiel, the strange, often brilliant man, died after still writing sf in his old age, he left behind a strange, often brilliant body of works. One would be tempted to feel that if you ignored his incredibly intolerant comments they would somehow go away."

Needless to say when they adapted a film from his book 58 years later, extensive reworking was done. The last "good" man is now black instead of white; the last "bad" man is white; a white woman is caught between them.

Shiel's intolerance was all over the map. Another 1901 novel, "The Lord of the Sea", was a "complicated plot about floating fortresses controlling the seas. It was violently anti-Semitic, yet paradoxically it had a Jew for the hero and a Jewess for the heroine, and ended up with the establishment of a Jewish homeland very much like Israel."




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Strange, it wouldn't discount his alleged racism, but I thought Shiel was supposed to be of mixed race himself, perhaps he felt an amount of self loathing considering his 'intolerance' (Believe me I loathe that the only source I have on an author is Wikipedia, *spits*. I generally ignore that website when it comes to religion, politics and potentially fanboyist related articles.)

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I think you're right. I may have heard somewhere he was of mixed race.
Perhaps the same book I quoted from earlier. I'll dig it up and double-check it for you.

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Yes, Shiel was born in the Caribbean of an Anglo-Irish father and a freed slave woman who was his wife. Shiel was the first boy born (in 1865), after a string of (I believe) 10 girls!

In celebration, Shiel's father bought a tiny nearby island -- a barren, eroded volcanic core called "Maria la Redonda" --and proclaimed himself "king" (even writing to Britain for permission to use such a title and, allegedly, obtaining tacit approval from Victoria, so long as the "Kingdom" of Redonda remained part of the Commonwealth) and, when Shiel was 15 years old, his father had him crowned the second King, in a ceremony performed by the Bishop of Antigua.

The succession of this kingship passed down from Shiel to other writers and remains in notional force to this day (though there are currently contending claimants to the "throne").

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Thanks for the info, especially since I didn't follow through and track it down. But you came up with a LOT more than I'd ever heard. Very interesting stuff; what's your source?

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........According to Wikipedia M. P. Shiel was from the West Indies and his mother was in fact the daughter of freed slaves.........As for Shiel being racist it should be remembered his work reflected the geopolitical events during the late eighteenth and early twentieth century. For generations Europe had exploited Asia with impunity. With the Boxer Rebellion and the Japanese victory in the Russo-Japanese War the Asians were beginning to fight back successfully. This caused a lot of concern in Great Britain, and other Western countries, and many of Shiel's works that reality.........Also the "Yellow Wave" , an update of Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet", was actually about a romantic relation between Japanese and Russian nationals at the time of the Russo-Japanese War. It would be hard to imagine a racist author doing a sympathetic story about what was an interracial relationship. Given the times it would have been considered ground braking.
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