How Accurate?
I know the '87 movie had some MAJOR historical inaccuracies in it but how accurate was the show overall?
shareI know the '87 movie had some MAJOR historical inaccuracies in it but how accurate was the show overall?
shareExcept for the two-part pilot episode and the Season 4 episode "Cooker in the Sky", which was based on an actual case of the real Untouchables, all of the episodes came from the imaginations of the show's writers. Many episodes included real historical characters and a few included real historical events but for the most part the show was fiction. For instance, the real life Eliot Ness never did battle against the likes of New York mobsters Dutch Schultz, Legs Diamond, and Waxey Gordon like he did on the series and the real life Frank Nitti committed suicide instead of dying in a blazing gun battle with law enforcement officers.
shareIn fact, it is very unlikely that Nitti and Ness ever met. If they did, it was a very brief and quite public encounter, the details of which currently escape me.
shareYou are correct. In fact, a caption appearing in the introduction to each episode says that the stories are fiction, if I recall the caption correctly.
Supposedly the TV series was based on the book written by the real Eliot Ness.If it was, it was only partially based on the book. And I've read that Ness's book itself was not completely accurate.
I always thought the series was very much fiction and its proven to be right.
Its that man again!!
On the show he was hit by a subway train while running away from the feds
shareIn some of the later episodes, Desilu added the disclamer graphic "The Untouchables is based on the book by Eliot Ness and Oscar Fraley. Certain portions have been fictionalized". In still later shows, it was shown as a graphic and voiced by Les Lampson (the KTTV weekend news anchor and "voice" of the Untouchables intro). Many episodes had NO basis in fact. Obviously, Ness, Capone, Nitti, Bugs Moran, Jake Guzik, Ma Barker, and a few others were real gangsters in their day, but were heavily modified characters for the show. Quinn Martin had a few favorite actors that showed up in later QM Productions like "The FBI".
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THe pilot followed the Ness book,but a lot of historians dispute the accuracy of Ness's version of what happened.
The regular series was heavily and at times totally fictionalized.
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The plots and stories were often heavily fictionalized, however many other aspects of the series were actually quite accurate. The 1930s costumes, weapons, vehicles and sets are identical to what actually was there in that period, so while part of the series may have been fiction at least the surroundings the stories took place in were quite accurate.
I agree with the costumes and weapons as well as the set, but they never got the hair right. The hairstyles (as well as eyebrows and makeup for the women) were very 1950s. I guess the actors didn't want to go around with hairstyles from the 1930s and super thin eyebrows.
The plots were total fiction. Total fiction. The real Eliot Ness was a prohibition agent and not a "fed." The real Capone dealt in beer. Ness went after his breweries and not much else. It was more of a concern that Capone had the city in his pocket because of the money he was making in the beer. They were more concerned with that and his power than the violation of Volstead.
This series, though, is probably the best thing I've seen on TV. I don't know about you guys, but I can't watch the movie anymore. Robert Stack nailed it as Eliot Ness.
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"The real Eliot Ness was a prohibition agent and not a 'fed'".
A Prohibition Agent WAS a "fed", or federal officer. See Wikipedia:
"The Bureau of Prohibition (or Prohibition Unit) was the federal law enforcement agency formed to enforce the National Prohibition Act of 1919, commonly known as the Volstead Act, which backed up the 18th Amendment to the United States Constitution regarding the prohibition of the manufacture, sale, and transportation of alcoholic beverages. When it was first established in 1920, it was a unit of the Bureau of Internal Revenue. On April 1, 1927, it became an independent entity within the Department of the Treasury, changing its name from the Prohibition Unit to the Bureau of Prohibition."
"Last of the Untouchables" which details the life of former Untouchable Paul Robsky (on whom the character of Jack Rossman in the series was based) should be taken with a grain of salt. Robsky was a very disgruntled and jealous individual who hated the fact that his former boss, Eliot Ness, had become a crimefighting legend while he was all but forgotten in the annals of history. He never missed the chance to run down and belittle Ness and his accomplishments. I'm not saying that everything in Robsky's book was untrue just that you ought to consider the source and where it's coming from.
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He was a prohibition agent who became an alcoholic. A moral idealist who married three times. A crime fighter whose name is forever linked with the gangster he didn't really catch! Eliot Ness's life is a tapestry of irony, but his legend has a life all its own. In this revealing BIOGRAPHY the real story of the famed lawman comes to light. See how his legend was launched by a book he co-authored 25 years after his days with the "Untouchables," in which he recklessly exaggerated his own importance and accomplishments. Paul Heimel, author of Eliot Ness: The Real Story tells how his real victories came after his Chicago years, when, as Director of Public Safety for Cleveland, he transformed that city from one of the nation's most corrupt and dangerous into the safest. And friends trace his long decline into alcoholism, and recall the final, sad days of his life. This is the revealing, true tale of the straight-arrow lawman whose life has been eclipsed by the legend he helped create.
I read the book "The Untouchables" and was shocked at the fact that he totally eliminated his first wife from the book and ended the book implying that he was dating his sweetheart, who was his third wife.
I want to get the "real story." It was ironic that he went to alcoholism after he fought so hard as a prohibition agent. Thanks for writing this because it really inspires me to get the book.
I read the book "The Untouchables" after getting hooked on the show. I also looked online about info on Eliot Ness. I was totally shocked to see that he fabricated his girlfriend and omitted his first wife from the book as if she didn't exist. You have to wonder how much other stuff he turned for his own good.
But I love the series and still like the legend of Eliot Ness, even though it may not all be true. Your post inspired me to get the biography. Thanks.
After a lot of reading on Ness, I found out that maybe he wasn’t such a big shot. But these forums deal with the series, and no matter how inaccurate or fictional, Robert Stack was just excellent in that role
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The Ma Barker episode is cringe worthy. The birthday party for her son was unintentionally funny particular the shot of her handing a jumper she knitted.
shareThe book by Elliot Ness has been alleged to be exxagerated, so the tv series is bound to be heavily fictionalized.
Its that man again!!
If you don't mind a comment by someone who is really late to the party, here goes: I was a tv film editor in the early 1970's and our local station ran these episodes. We ran each and every print to assure continuity and also to identify scenes that could be eliminated for time as each episode was shortened by 3 minutes for commercial purposes. Eventually we editors would notice countless goofs, anachronisms and errors. In one episode, a conversation takes place in a prison theater projection room. The equipment is obviously modern (for 1960) and not the period stuff a 1930's prison would have. My favorite however is a car chase where a vintage automobile crashes. The story called for the car to overturn but the producers were clearly not about to wreck a valuable antique. Instead, a stock shot of a 1950 Ford, swiped from the movie "Thunder Road" is used. I remember how the editors gathered around the projector, running the scene again and again and laughing at the miraculous transformation of a 1930 vehicle into a 1950 sedan. All I can say is that if such outrageous errors were ignored, how accurate would the story lines be? Turning out an episode a week at minimum cost required a lot of concessions to the truth. And when a single man is to be credited with arresting almost every mob guy from the 1930's, the results are breathtakingly untruthful. They might as well have created a totally fictional policeman in the manner of "Law and Order". Or made him a superhero!
shareaventer- I laugh every time I see that "car crash" scene... good to know I'm not the only one who noticed that. I've always wanted to keep track of the dates they give and see if Eliot was ever in two places at the same time...
Fire Nancy Dubuc !!! History Made-up Every Day !
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The original book was a novel. Ness originally wanted it to be accurate, but Oscar Fraley insisted that it be heavily fictionalized in order to have sales appeal.
As for the TV series, at the end of the pilot episode the credits say that the series is based on the novel "The Untouchables". At the end of other episodes the credits say that "The incidents portrayed in this episode are fictional . . . ."
So the series is clearly fictional, and a lot of dramatic license was used to get better ratings. Based on what I know, I'd say it is about 95% fiction, with a few facts sprinkled in from time to time.