Anyone ever notice when whoever is dialing numbers aren't always same amount. One time seen then dialing 3 or 5 or 6 or 7. Not sure when someone is calling back in the day was always 7 numbers. So I guess it doesn't matter in the show how many they dial. Also have heard after dialing couple times someone answered answered right away. No dial tone before or after dialing. Yes I know It's a show but I love to come here and have a say.
shareHaving grown up with a black dial phone, it is lovely to see someone dial a phone. Doesn't matter if they fudge the numbers. Of course, they don't want to waste valuable camera time letting someone actually dial 7 numbers.
shareIt's love to have seen a post where the past tense of "see" was not "seen."
I saw an episode the other day where someone dialed a phone, but I have not seen a smartphone on "Perry."
What an arrogant post.
shareI have seen your response. Thank you for your opinion. I saw it just this past hour.
shareActually, the tense is correct. "It's lovely to see" is correct because it refers to a general situation in which one sees something--not a specific time in the past. Another example would be, "It's nice to see a good person succeed." It refers to a general state of affairs, not a specific time point. I.e., whenever it happens, it's lovely to see.
This sentence is false. -- The Zurich Gnome
Wow! You really know your English! Maybe you can take a glance at the original post, where "seen" is used as the past tense. This solecism is a tip-off to a particular "Perry Mason" sockpuppet. Even if the original poster is not the sockpuppet, it never hurts to be instructed to use language correctly?
It's lovely to see.
Well, I don't come here often, so I wouldn't know about any sock puppets. But I'd make a couple of points here. First, I'm guessing that the OP may not be a native speaker of English. If so, then I tend to forgive awkward sentence constructions and instead commend the person for trying to contribute. The intended meaning is clear to me, and that's what counts most. Or they could be trying to post from a mobile device and are having trouble and/or are being "telegraphic" instead of using full, clear text.
Re: the use of "seen," this could be considered an elliptical--a phrase in which one or more nonessential words are eliminated. The non-elliptical version would be "is seen" (present tense, passive voice).
This sentence is false. -- The Zurich Gnome
Aren't there any message boards dedicated to such issues? I could care less vs I couldn't care less, since vs because, whether vs if…
I know somebody who discusses his undergraduates' supposed mistakes on his Facebook timeline. To me it's like beating a dead horse.
You may cross-examine.
Well, I don't come here often, so I wouldn't know about any sock puppets. But I'd make a couple of points here. First, I'm guessing that the OP may not be a native speaker of English. If so, then I tend to forgive awkward sentence constructions and instead commend the person for trying to contribute. The intended meaning is clear to me, and that's what counts most. Or they could be trying to post from a mobile device and are having trouble and/or are being "telegraphic" instead of using full, clear text.
Re: the use of "seen," this could be considered an elliptical--a phrase in which one or more nonessential words are eliminated. The non-elliptical version would be "is seen" (present tense, passive voice).
Strange you should keep returning to a group where you don't "come often" to quibble over a point.
When you get misspelling together with the incorrect and slovenly use of the participle, you get ZurichGnomes being unable to even see (perhaps because they aren't native English speakers themselves).
Oh, God, please don't put me on an ignore list! Please keep coming here to a place you so infrequently visit and where you are not a sock puppet, so you can teach me correct usage. I'm begging you, because after all, you're not a Zurich Gnome at all--not a Zurich.
Or... You can get lost until you learn how to read English, so that you don't waste your valuable time responding to posts you don't comprehend.
Not Zurich.
{I'm gonna edit this to save you the trouble: I'll put you on my ignore list}
I'm sorry, but "Even if the original poster is not the sockpuppet, it never hurts to be instructed to use language correctly?" is not a question but a statement which should end with a period. You might have written "even if...does it ever hurt...?"
share"It's love to have seen a post where the past tense of "see" was not "seen." "
The past tense of see is either saw or seen. Your post (quoted above) is an example. It depends on the structure of the sentence.
Does anyone remember back then and 2 or maybe 3 decades later that if you wanted a color phone you were charged for it. Not sure what they cost then but years later you could get any color for free.
My aunt lived in Oklahoma and when my family visited you didn't have to dial the first 2 numbers when calling. I never heard of that at the time. Now years later since I haven't been there in 30 or so years don't know if they still do that.
Here in DC, they instituted a new area code for Virginia so everyone in the DC METRO area has to dial all 10 numbers EXCEPT if you are in DC and calling someone in DC you only need to dial 7 numbers.
shareIn the late 1970s, I lived in a town where - if you were making an in-town call - you only had to dial the first number of the exchange, plus the last four numbers.
shareIn the late 60's and very early 70's, if you dialed only the last four numbers of the same general exchange (in-town, as you say), the call went through. I was in my teens when I found this out and called as many people as I could, it was such a kick.
shareI was a Pacific Telephone/Pacific Bell service rep in Orange County, CA, from 1978-2001. During the years leading up to divestiture (1984), colors were not charged but there were separate charges for touch tone service and touch tone sets. Trimlines (TML) and Princess (PRN) phones carried an extra charge, as did the four Custom Calling services we offered; Call Waiting, Call Forwarding, Three-Way Calling, and Speed Dialing. Discounts applied on packaging (later called "bundling") services. Some exchange-central offices did not have Touch Tone even as late as 1979, e.g. Garden Grove-Main.
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I don't remember the color being extra, but I certainly remember when Ma Bell was pushing "Princess phone" extensions for girl's bedrooms that (besides the cost of the extension line) were more expensive than traditional phones.
shareUp to 1957 my family's home phone number was 5720, then it became 2-5720 (actually FLeetwood2-5720.) In 1961 the "FL" became 35 so our number became 352-5720. I could google it, but anyway area codes were added later* which made the number 217-352-5720. I do remember what a pain in the toucas it was to dial numbers like 877-9808.
What always amazes me is that it seemed to be no issue to give real phone numbers before the 555-xxxx thing started.
*In an S-7 episode of PM ('62-'63) Perry tells a suspect to dial his NY office and tells him "the area code is ***."
What always amazes me is that it seemed to be no issue to give real phone numbers before the 555-xxxx thing started.
I didn't learn until about a year ago that actually "555" is a real exchange, and that only the first 2700 numbers or so are "protected" (not used.) I've never run across a real 555 number though.
A lot of younger people don't realize that the first 2 numbers of their phone number were based on words back in the day. OLive 4-1954 would have become 654-1954.
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I've always been impressed with the way most telephone conversations include the voice of the person on the other end, at a low level. This adds (a little) to production costs, but it certainly improves "realism".
shareI recall "back in the day" it wasn't always necessary when calling locally to dail all seven numbers. You could omit the first two numbers of the prefix.
shareI wasn't alive back then. Did you have to dial an operator to make a long distance call still? I seem to remember when I was very young hearing my mom making a long distance call and calling the operator first and saying something like " I need to make a station to station call" or something like that. Imagine today having to do that with every long distance call if it was required. I watched a Colombo episode on ME and he had to call the operator to make a long distance call, so I imagine it may have been required.
shareI can remember having to use the operator for long distance calls when I was pretty young... or at least my parents did. I know that when area code came into being ('67 or so) that if you were calling someone in which you were charged long distance but they were in the same area code you dialed 1-number (no area code.) It was definitely a lovely thing when LD calls stopped being toll calls.
IIRC (it's been a day or two) when area code commenced operators were no longer necessary unless the call was collect.
I saw an episode where they called the operator for a number and it brought back memories. I remember being young and not having a phone book and having to call the operator for a phone number, and if there was more than one person with that name you had to know the address.
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