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Goof at orgy scene ?

posted 9 years ago by biglarry1
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When Moses was getting the 10 Commandments,Dathan riled up the people saying they would die of hunger. Yet when they started the orgy, they certainly seemed to have a lot of food and wine.

[–] angmc43 9 years ago

The Israelites of the Exodus were whining drama queens who freaked out about their plight pretty much all the time at the drop of the hat. They had sufficient food and wine at Sinai, but Moses' continued disappearance made them worry about the future- what will become of us in the middle of the desert?- and Dathan took the opportunity to amplify those fears for his own benefit.

[–] Mithrandir-Olorin33 9 years ago

What's most hilarious to me is Dathan trying to stoke paranoia when they just crossed the Red Sea about Pharoh's army. Like was God's next move really that difficult to guess in that moment?

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[–] AutoexecBatman 9 years ago

But all of the Israelites are equally daft in the book of Exodus itself. Five minutes after the crossing of the Red Sea, the Israelites are already complaining that Moses 'led them out into the desert to die', and complain that he should have left them in Egypt.

[–] jgroub 9 years ago

How about the question of where the Israelite SLAVES got all the gold to make the Golden Calf? I asked this question of my teacher in Hebrew School, and she said, "They borrowed it from their Egyptian friends." Slaves, friends with rich Egyptians? "Borrow," not stole?

Yeah, it was at this point that I started my path towards atheism.

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[–] AutoexecBatman 9 years ago

The book of Exodus explains where the gold came from, all you have to do is read it.

[–] jgroub 9 years ago

You're referring to Exodus 12:35-36:

The Israelites did as Moses instructed and asked the Egyptians for articles of silver and gold and for clothing. 36 The Lord had made the Egyptians favorably disposed toward the people, and they gave them what they asked for; so they plundered the Egyptians.

Yeah, because god just does those kinds of things. Instead of having the gold fall like manna from heaven, instead he "persuades" thousands of Egyptians to part with it, so that the Israelites can "plunder" it. Very nice god you've got there. Good luck with him.

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[–] bens33 9 years ago

I think the Hebrews were entitled to the gold as payment for the backbreaking work that they did.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[–] jgroub 9 years ago

Right, so god allows them to plunder it from the Egyptians.

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[–] angmc43 9 years ago

You seem to be under this conception that the Israelites were saints. Ever consider that the stealing of Egyptian treasures- not to mention possible acts of infidelity, murder, pagan practices, etc.- were signs of justification for the Ten Commandments?

[–] AutoexecBatman 9 years ago

They weren't 'stolen', Pharoah was so desperate to get the Israelites were going to leave, that he literally agreed to pay them to go. The gold was part of the agreement that Egypt made to get the Israelites the hell out of dodge. Again, this is fully explained in the book of Exodus.

[–] jgroub 9 years ago

Not when it is by god's will that they "plunder" in the first place. And if you need a "commandment" so as not to steal, then that's pretty sad.

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[–] cfwente 9 years ago

If God can command you not to steal, it seems to me He can command you to make an exception. . . Doesn't Sephora ask -- "Can a man judge God?", jgroub?

[–] AutoexecBatman 9 years ago

It wasn't 'theft' anyway, theft is defined as taking something you don't need and don't have any right to, but the Israelites had every right to the gold as reparations for 400 years of slavery. Moreover, the Egyptians voluntarily agreed to hand it over anyway, it not like it was taken at gunpoint.

[–] jgroub 9 years ago

Yes, they just voluntarily agreed to part with it. It's not as if god had anything to do with their "volunteering" whatsoever.

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[–] jgroub 9 years ago

I sure can.

I can judge him when he has a tsunami wipe out a quarter million people in an instant.

I can judge him when he gives children bone cancer and leukemia.

I can judge him when he has an earthquake destroy hundreds of thousands of home.

So, yes, I can certainly judge him. In fact, it's quite easy to do. You should try it sometime.

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[–] cfwente 9 years ago

You can shout "fire" when there is no fire in a crowded theatre too, if you've a mind to. The important question is -- do you have the authority to do so, so that you will be believed? I will believe you when you've shown me that, like God, you've become greater than anything which can be imagined by man (paraphrasing Anselm's generally accepted definition of God).

[–] bens33 9 years ago

That analogy doesn't answer jgroub's questions at all. The fire in your analogy isn't real. Tsunamis, earthquakes and diseases are.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[–] cfwente 9 years ago

Jgroub asks no "questions" in his post. He makes a statement -- "I can judge God".