Magnetic bars a goof?


In the goofs section of this film's IMDB entry, it says that having the characters' hands stick to the magnetic bars of the transformation chamber couldn't happen as human hands aren't made of metal. If the field were strong enough, couldn't it force your hands down onto it? Especially considering human blood contains iron. Can anyone here better educated in science shed any light on this?

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I don't think when Exetor is referring to the bars as being "magnetized," he's talking about any sort of electromagnetic force as we know it, rather, he's simplifying the science for brevity's sake.

-J. Theakston
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I have a sneaky feeling that whomever listed the magnetic hands as a goof stole the joke from Mystery Science Theater 3000 who made fun of that part. When Cal and Ruth's hands were drawn to the bars Exector said "Their magnetic" and one of the MST 3000 guys said "And if your hands were made of metal that would mean something." It was a pretty funny line and cracked me up but truthfully as was said I think the writer was just simplifying the science.

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No. No matter how strong a magnetic field is, it will not effect humans as it does in this movie.

Bender: I was God once.
God: Yes, I saw. You were doing well until everyone died.

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Blood will respond to a magnetic field if it's strong enough. But think how destructive this would be. Massive capillary damage will occur first (bruising) but this still wouldn't stick hands to bars. Strengthen the field more and blood will ooz out of the fingers. I suspect the hands will be wrecked. Thrombosis and (later) gangrene will be a huge problem but I still don't see the hands magnetically stuck to the bars.

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Yes, this is one of the minor scientific goofs the producers of TIE made
when they showed Cal's hands being magnetized on the metal grip bars on the
inside of the decompression tubes. Oops!
The major one is the "Thermal Barrier". What in Einstein's name is a thermal barrier? Only a wall that protects you from intense heat, not some ring around the Earth that you have to blast through in your spaceship.

Dejael

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The major one is the "Thermal Barrier". What in Einstein's name is a thermal barrier? Only a wall that protects you from intense heat, not some ring around the Earth that you have to blast through in your spaceship ... Or for that matter, why is it visually depicted as being far away from the Earth, where as the dialogue makes it sound as if it is the Earth's atmosphere??

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Yes, the "Thermal Barrier" is pseudo-science for "let's do something that requires some visual effects for the audience". Although it's pseudo-science and nothing real, the visual effects are impressive.

Curiously, there really is something like the "Thermal Barrier" as depicted in THIS ISLAND EARTH, discovered during the IGY (International Geophysical Year) of 1957-1958. The Van Allen Radiation Belt, a field of intense energy encircling the Earth, named for the scientist, Dr. Van Allen, who discovered it. Look it up.

Dejael

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I can accept pseudo science in older films, but I have a much harder time when they can't seem to get the dialogue to match the visuals. They kept speaking as if the Thermal Barrier was in close proximity to Earth, but visually is was something in deep space, having left the Earth far behind.

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the iron in your blood woudl rip holes (too small for you to see anyway) though the skin and run for the magnet before it gives an effect like that. basically, human would die from the field before you really feel effect. if those were gravitational fields then the legs and the respt of the body would be attracted too so it cant be that either.

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