Excellent, but Flawed


In another thread, I made the statement about TIE:

"Excellent, but Flawed" and gave my review rating of 9/10
(nine stars out of ten).

In response to those who contacted me, and wanted to know why I said this,
here is my explanation of my statement:

By flawed I meant that the film needed a bit of polish to the script to eliminate flaws, and more support from Universal's executive offices that it didn't get, in order to be the flawless classic it could have been.

A good example is the script line 'ivyandstone' has quoted me: flaws in the dialogue:

Exeter says, "Ruth, don't tell me that as a woman you're not curious about our destination?"

I have a copy of the final shooting script, and the words 'as a woman' were lined out, stricken from the page, yet this line remains as spoken in the movie. This line was a put-down of women, and the director wanted it out, but someone made a mistake and didn't line it out in Jeff Morrow's script, which he showed me, where it remains, so he spoke it as written and it remained in the film due to a tight shooting schedule.

Exeter should have said,

"Ruth, don't tell me that you're not curious about our destination?"

There were other misogynistic comments in the script that were noted to be removed, but were not, such as when

Cal says to Ruth, "You were awful sissy about that icy water", and "Still a sissy!"
Very rude and inappropriate comments for a scientist to make to a research colleague, in spite of them having dated before.

There was nothing wrong with the special visual effects, which were and remain superb, even by today's standards, except for the world globe, and final scene in the picture.

That brings up an interesting point: A Clash of Wills at Universal Pictures:

David Stanley Horsley was the supervisor of the visual effects work, with Roswell A. Hoffman as his assistant (whom I personally met and interviewed in 1982) and Hoffman told me that the front office was annoyed with Horsley (who was a genius, and a perfectionist) because he was taking too long to complete the visual effects work.
Horsley took almost exactly one year to do the visual effects work, from January 1954 to January 1955, creating many new techniques along the way which are still used in the industry today, but in 1955 were ground-breaking effects.

Edward Muhl was the Universal Studios boss, the movie mogul in the front office, who was in charge of the entire studio. Muhl's idea of a science fiction movie was a cheaply made black & white B-movie with an effective scary monster in it, for the kids and teenagers, with a budget of about $250,000 to $500,000 tops in 1950s dollars. When Muhl looked over the proposed production budget for TIE, which was on Universal's A-List of productions, and was NOT a B-movie, he nearly choked on his cigar:

$750,000 minimum - $1 Million maximum.

He was angry and incensed, and sent off a memo to the producer, William Alland, ordering him to keep the costs down to the bare minimum. However, in January 1955, when the picture was supposed to be completed in a rough cut, Horsley was still working on the visual effects. Herman Stein, who was the main composer of the music score, whom I knew from my 1986 interview with him to his passing on March 15, 2007, told me that the music score was completed and was recorded by the Universal Studio Orchestra (a 40-piece orchestra) on January 11 and 12, 1955. Joseph Gershenson was the conductor (he was the Universal Studios Music Director and was a very powerful man at the studio in the 1950s - he was the only person who received screen credit for the music on this picture, and many others which had nameless composers), and he was very annoyed when Horsley wasn't finished, because the way the studio worked in the old days before 1968, was all the department heads had to get their footage assembled into a rough cut for the editor before it went to the music department to have the soundtrack music recorded (which was always one of the last pieces of the film to be added).

Gershenson went into Muhl's executive office and complained that Horsley wasn't finished and the rough cut was missing scenes which were shown onscreen in the workprint by lengths of black film leader. How can he score to blank film? he said to Muhl.

Muhl ordered Horsley into his office and fired him on the spot. Horsley, in his own defense, said he had one more week to go to finish the effects work. Muhl said to Horsley, "You're finished. Clear out your desk. I want you off the studio lot today!"

This shattered Horsley, who had been in charge of the Universal Pictures Special Photographic Department since 1946, when he took it over from the legendary John P. Fulton, as Fulton's assistant. Fulton had quit to go to work for Paramount under Cecil B. DeMille, and Fulton is the one who created the awesome visual effects for DeMille's greatest epics SAMSON AND DELILAH
(1949), THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH (1952) and THE TEN COMMANDMENTS (1956).

Horsley only worked sporadically as an independent artist on other pictures after that, his best known effort being Edward Small's imitation of Ray Harryhausen fantasy pictures, JACK THE GIANT KILLER (1962), and retired in 1966, and ended up an alcoholic drunk when he died in 1976 after crashing his car into a fence. Muhl had shattered his confidence as an artist.

Horsley should have, by all rights, been nominated in the 1955 Academy Awards for Best Special Visual Effects. He was not, and TIE was not nominated, due to Academy pressure from Muhl's office not to recognize or acknowledge Horsley's incredible work on TIE. The only nominations were Walt Disney's 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA and George Pal's CONQUEST OF SPACE, and Disney's film was the winner. It was a real shame. However, the Academy gave Horsley a "back door" Oscar Award, a Technical Achievement Oscar for his "Linear Accelerator" which was used to show the flying saucer moving through space in TIE. So, the picture DID win ONE award! And it was HIS!

However, being fired from a major studio was a catastrophe for Horsley, and he never got over it. Horsley's father, David Horsley Sr., had co-founded Universal Pictures with the original founder, Carl Laemmle Sr. in 1915. Horsley was like studio royalty, and being deposed from his position was a disgrace he could not bear.

So, in January 1955, Edward Muhl, who saw red when he noted that the budget on TIE had reached a record $800,000. ordered the cinematographer on TIE, Clifford Stine, ASC, who had a lot of special visual effects experience himself, to complete the effects work, which was the final scene in the movie. Stine took 3 days to do it, as opposed to Horsley's "one week" Horsley had planned, with his assistants Roswell Hoffman and Charlie Baker, to show the flying saucer, suspended on a nearly invisible wire, to plunge into the ocean, a studio water tank prepared for the scene.

Stine didn't have time to set that up properly, so he simply put a large squib (a big sponge soaked in creosote oil, a highly flammable substance), on the wire, set at a 45-degree angle, anchored at the bottom of the water tank. He set up the shot, and ordered Charlie Baker to set it on fire, and then the flaming squib was propelled down the wire into the water at high speed to simulate the flying saucer burning up as it plunged into the Pacific Ocean. Then a dissolve was made to a giant yellow sulphur cloud by Charlie Baker and printed by Roswell Hoffman. Then the titles department put the end title over that, and the picture was finished. But the last shot in the movie doesn't really work, it isn't very realistic or believable. If you don't see the outline of the saucer, it spoils the effect. So this is the only flawed effects shot in the whole picture, and it was done by Stine, NOT Horsley.

So what did Muhl do? He congratulated Stine, and promoted him to supervisor of the Universal Special Photographic Dept. as Horsley's replacement. Stine remained in that position for over ten years until retiring in 1966. Stine had worked on the Universal sci-fi pictures IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE (1953) and THE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON (1954) both in 3-D, and had supervised the 3-D camera work under David S. Horsley's special visual effects supervision. Hoffman remained at the studio doing the same work in the same department until his retirement in 1974, after a full 50 years of work at Universal.

Hoffman's final film work was on EARTHQUAKE (1974) which the studio made only by calling Clifford Stine out of retirement to supervise the amazing visual effects work on that picture. Curiously, Horsley was not called, even after Hoffman brought up his name in a studio conference when the picture was in pre-production.

Hoffman told me that the studio was very annoyed with Horsley over THIS ISLAND EARTH in 1955, and that's why he and the picture were not nominated for an Oscar, and it was a damn shame because Horsley was a brilliant artist and visual effects technician who was trained by John P. Fulton. Hoffman told me he had nothing but the utmost respect for Horsley, who was a master craftsman. The studio really should have spent at least $1 Million on the picture, and then by bragging about it in advertising. As it was, the studio had bragging rights to show "2-1/2 Years In The Making!" on the movie posters of THIS ISLAND EARTH. They could easily have spent a little more time and money on it and declared "3 Years in the Making at a cost of over a Million Dollars!"

But in the 1950s, science fiction was a new genre, mostly low-budget B-movies, and it would remain for another studio, MGM, to make the first big-budget sci-fi blockbuster, FORBIDDEN PLANET, released the following year in 1956, which cost a record $4.5 Million to make. And FORBIDDEN PLANET was nominated for Best Special Visual Effects for 1956, but lost to John P. Fulton in Cecil B. DeMille's TEN COMMANDMENTS.

So that's why, even though THIS ISLAND EARTH is a great film, an important film, it is a flawed masterpiece. The script needed some careful editing, which it did not get, and the effects work was tampered with by the studio. Also, the studio would have benefited on this picture by hiring a scientific consultant, since the scientific jargon in the picture doesn't really make sense, and isn't based on real science - ask any scientist "What is the Thermal Barrier?" and you will get a blank stare. And Metaluna turning into a radioactive sun - highly unlikely that any planet would turn into a sun unless they are gas giants like Jupiter or Saturn, ignited by atomic explosions. This event in the film is more poetry than science, as Exeter so eloquently puts it - "yes...a sun...giving light to those who may need it."
I will give Horsley and the art directors, Alexander Golitzen and Richard H. Riedel, high marks for their incredibly awesome and realistic depiction of the planet Metaluna, with the elaborate settings and matte paintings, background art, and the superscience of the advanced race of Metalunans. I especially love the ultra-art-deco design of the flying saucer, inside and out, the decompression tubes, and the whirling, colorful atom-structure on the bridge of the saucer and in the Monitor's throne room on Metaluna - Amazing!

However, the effects work is uneven because the Earth doesn't look realistic in the film - it's missing its cloud cover, and was a prop borrowed from the Universal Title Department where it was used as the world globe that spins in the Universal-International screen logo. Chesley Bonestell got it right in all the George Pal movies, DESTINATION MOON (1950), WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE (1951), WAR OF THE WORLDS(1953), and CONQUEST OF SPACE (1955). Why didn't Universal take note of this? It's the only thing I can fault Horsley on.

That's why, in the final analysis, I give the film a 9 out of 10.

Dejael

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dejael,

Excellent and very informative post. Thanks.

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I'm pretty sure the saucer is shown up-side-down when it flys through the thermal barrier. It appears to have fire flowing around a 'dome' on it's 'bottom' - which the saucer did not have. It had the hanger deck opening in that location in the earlier airplane-capture scenes. The only dome the saucer had was the one on it's top side. It's difficult to see the bottom dome in the thermal barrier scene. You need to watch the flow of the fire to see the saucer is not flat on it's bottom, as it should be. I think this is a film editing/splicing mistake.

I also rate the "This Island Earth" movie high among my all-time favorite sci-fi's. But I must say I never shared your high opinion of the saucer's interior. Even as a child, and seeing the movie for the first time (on TV in late 50's), I was disappointed in the sparseness of the interior development; aside from the hanger deck matte painting. For all the portholes seen in the ship's exterior... not once were we shown any interior room having one. Why so many portholes, and so few Metalunians to look out of them? I was (and still am) fond of the colorful atom symbols on the interositer, the saucer's astroscope, the decompression tube control console, and even on the side of the clear Metalunian skullcap hats. But I could never accept that huge rotating atom sculpture as having anything to do with piloting the ship (or 'monitoring' Metaluna). That thing would be ok as an art sculpture in a lobby; but not as an astrogator on a ship.

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"Welcome to Altair-4, gentlemen". - Robby Robot: 1956 "Forbidden Planet" movie

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Superb background material, Dajael.

I saw the movie on its original theatrical showing in 1955 and was totally enthralled by the whole thing. The image of that beautiful silver saucer rising out of its hiding place in the Georgia mountains and flying off into space stayed with me, even though I did not see the movie again for over a decade.

I now own the dvd and watch it at least once a year. Yes, there are many problems with the movie, but it remains one of the finest space operas ever committed to celluloid. Had it not been for the success of This Island Earth, there might never have been a Forbidden Planet.

Once again, thanx for a superbly informative post.

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I definitely agree that the movie quite easily COULD have been a decent scifi flick, at least for the time it was made.

The problems are a bit deeper then some mere studio disputes, or rather, mere studio disputes don't excuse the massive flaws that do in fact warrant this showing up on MST3K.

The #1 problem is how rushed it was. It made the entire movie pointless and nonsensical. Why do the humans revolt/escape within minutes of meetchum's arrival at Exeter's mansion? Very weird stuff that left me and my friends all throwing our hands up in the air saying, "what the hell?". I mean, immediately after Meetchum shows up he's making an escape attempt with 2 other scientists. This is followed immediately by a UFO spaceflight. Where's the story development? The movie just starts throwing all these big events at us with absolutely no setup or significance.

The alien's goal was to bring human scientists back to their planet JUST to buy them enough time so they could all escape to Earth and take it over. Ok, I can suspend my disbelief and overlook the issue of these aliens mastering spaceflight yet somehow lagging far behind humans when it comes to nuclear technology and admit that this would be a fairly cool scifi plot, except their planet explodes within minutes of the human's arrival. Did they seriously expect them to come up with a scientific breakthrough and put it into functional use in that short of time? If the planet was that close to destruction, why did Exeter even bother bringing the humans there, he should have known it was a lost cause. It just makes the entire premise of the movie so completely pointless and absurd, that there's no way to defend the thing. And that's on top of the fact that the plot is already pretty damn absurd, I mean wouldn't it be FAR easier to forget about human scientists to discover a way to save their planet and instead just focus on building up their military/invasion forces to do what the plan calls for all along, and just invade Earth? Anyways, I don't care if budget problems prevented them from developing the plot more, the fact that the plot is this underdeveloped renders this film garbage.

The ending just adds to this problem. If Exeter had decided to join the humans and teach mankind all he knows, THEN the movie would have had a point to it. Instead, Exeter chooses death(a decision which makes absolutely no sense), which is no wonder as his new human friends do next to nothing to convince him otherwise. At the end of the day, mankind gains nothing from the experience of these scientists, the viewer gains nothing, the movie has no message, it's nothing but dimwitted entertainment of the lowest caliber.

Then we have the less significant but just as mindboggling flaws. For example, why does Meetchum pull the plug on the machine early on after first conversing with Exeter? There really was little sign of any danger, yet he flips out. It wouldn't be a problem except it conflicts with everything we know about the character. He's not some fraidy cat, he's not the type of guy to lose his cool and pull the plug. Immediately after this scene, we see the formerly fearful, incredibly wary of possible danger character of Meetchum hop right on board a plane with no pilots or windows. He shows no sign of concern or fear here, he's completely up for it.

Then there's the issue of the mut-ENT. Is this the weakest movie monster of all time or what? Ridiculous. A few clubs to the back of the head and it's down for the count. It couldn't move any slower, and I fail to see what danger it could pose when it actually manages to get a hold of somebody. It looks cool, but it's not menacing at all. This really killed any and all suspense their escape from the exploding planet should have had. At no point did I actually think this goofy, inneffective monster posed a serious threat.

One more thing, dubbed voices. Ridiculous.

Anyways, these aren't problems that can't be fixed, many could EASILY be fixed. It's not completely broken like many, well most, movies MST3K lampoons, but it's still horrid. No amount of sugarcoating or excusing the problems due to issues out of the director/actor/special effects/etc. control can change that.

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You, sir, are of course entitled to your opinions on this film, but there are very many people, myself included, who see this movie as a beautiful work of art, and fairly good sci-fi for its time, and a cinematic milestone.

Let's take your objection points one by one:

First, you say how rushed it was. I would agree with a film critic's one-sentence review of this movie: "Slow start, fast finish". It does take a while for the story to get going, then once it does, things seem to happen very fast.
However, in the course of the story, when Cal Meacham arrives at the Georgia mansion, it is a few days after Cal & Ruth are there, that they decide to make a run for it in the Ford woodie. If you didn't pay attention to Cal, Ruth and Steve Carlson's discussion about Exeter, and the reason why they are there, it all comes down to a unanimous vote to get out of there fast. They all get cold feet.

Yes, I always thought it was a really bad decision for the Metalunans to destroy the Georgia mansion and kill all the scientists. It really makes no sense for them to cover their tracks, since simply by leaving, no Earth power could possibly go after them, or discover more about them once they have left Earth behind. This is an obvious plot hole which the scriptwriter should have avoided, it only makes the Metalunans look more evil than they are.

Your second objection is that the aliens bring Cal & Ruth all the way to Metaluna for no apparent reason, but the real reason is that the Metalunans are hoping they can help them ward off Zahgon's attacks and help them with their failing nuclear shielding. However, Exeter, not realizing how serious the situation has become, realizes only after visiting the Monitor that it is already too late for his world, and knows that it is doomed. That's why he disobeys the Monitor and helps them to escape and return to Earth.

Then there's the issue of why Exeter chose to die when he returns to Earth.
Perhaps it was because he knew he was mortally wounded, and was dying, and wanted to make a grand exit, since the nuclear fuel in his saucership was also spent, and was on a fatal crash course. That's what I got out of it.

You say that you don't understand why Meacham pulls the plug on the Interocitor when Exeter begins a remote-controlled self-destruct sequence? The scientist obviously thought that maybe if he pulled the 220V wall plug and cut the power, he could stop the machine from self-destructing. However, he was wrong, and the machine's circuits are already on overload by the time he pulls the plug, and falls to the floor.

By the way, did you get the inside joke in that scene? "If there is any reason around here?" spoken by Joe Wilson, he is obviously referring to Rex Reason the actor. I laughed at that line!

Yes, the Mutant looks more frightening than it is, and seems to be rather inept when it comes to chasing girls and scaring scientists, but it's a brilliantly conceived realistic looking monster, which was simply thrown into the movie by Bud Westmore's makeup department because the Universal front office told them they had to have a monster in the movie. The Mutant is now one of the most famous Universal Movie Monsters, even though he didn't seem to have much to do in the script except try to kill Exeter and grab hold of Ruth for a last dance.

By the way, where are the dubbed voices? I never noticed any.

In the end, it all comes down to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". If you didn't like it, then no amount of production values, colorful special visual effects, props and talented actors will convince you otherwise.

But there are many of us who are not only charmed by it all, but simply amazed by its technical brilliance, and happy that this film even got made at all, when there is so much more low-budget grade-Z junk out there made in the fabulous Fifties.

As I've already noted, there are several technical flaws as well as plot holes in the script which needed fixing. Yet this movie for me, and many others, overcomes all these limitations by its colorful beauty as a work of cinematic art.

Cheers,
Dejael

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"However, in the course of the story, when Cal Meacham arrives at the Georgia mansion, it is a few days after Cal & Ruth are there, that they decide to make a run for it in the Ford woodie. If you didn't pay attention to Cal, Ruth and Steve Carlson's discussion about Exeter, and the reason why they are there, it all comes down to a unanimous vote to get out of there fast. They all get cold feet. "

It needed more development. SHOW the viewer that these characters are getting cold feet. It basically was just the 2 scientists telling Meetchum things ain't right, and Meetchum saying you guys have a point, and then all 3 making a run for it. It's simply not a good way to tell a story. That's why I say the movie could easily have been good, it wouldn't be hard to add some scenes in here, add a couple more days to Meetchum's stay at the mansion where he observes some increasingly weird or worrisome things. The story would make more sense, the movie would be more entertaining, it'd be smarter in every single way. I understand budget/schedule problems likely didn't allow this. I'm just saying the movie isn't completely broken.

"Your second objection is that the aliens bring Cal & Ruth all the way to Metaluna for no apparent reason, but the real reason is that the Metalunans are hoping they can help them ward off Zahgon's attacks and help them with their failing nuclear shielding. However, Exeter, not realizing how serious the situation has become, realizes only after visiting the Monitor that it is already too late for his world, and knows that it is doomed. That's why he disobeys the Monitor and helps them to escape and return to Earth. "

I acknowledged that they hoped the humans could save their planet with the nuclear technology and whatnot. Exeter should have had the ability to contact his home planet through an interocitor. I suppose they could have lied to him on the status of the planet, but even then, why not just order him to abandon the project altogether. It's just a real shaky plot.

"You say that you don't understand why Meacham pulls the plug on the Interocitor when Exeter begins a remote-controlled self-destruct sequence? The scientist obviously thought that maybe if he pulled the 220V wall plug and cut the power, he could stop the machine from self-destructing. However, he was wrong, and the machine's circuits are already on overload by the time he pulls the plug, and falls to the floor. "

I didn't hear the bit about self destructing.

"By the way, where are the dubbed voices? I never noticed any. "

REALLY sounded like they were dubbed early on, opening of the movie when everyone is gathered round the plane, I, along with all my friends, thought it sounded dubbed. I could be wrong, maybe it was just due to how uniquely deep and "movie hero-ish" Meetchum's voice is.

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Dingus,

Thanks for your honest input into the discussion. Yes, the director could have, and should have, made it more to the point that the scientists were plotting to leave the facility. I also think the filmmakers should have used the name for the aliens in the book, the Peace Engineers. That would have given them (the aliens from Metaluna) a bit more credibility to any scientist. In fact, the Georgia mansion should have been instead an isolated factory near Phoenix, Arizona as in the book, with a Peace Engineers logo sign on it, a fancy ultramodern high-tech office, and more gadgets and gismos as were mentioned in the novel.

The inconsistencies in the plot are a result of concepts in the screenwriter's version of Raymond F. Jones' original story not being fully developed and the characters' motivations not being fully analyzed by Coen, the screenwriter, before this script was considered finished and printed. For example, as I have noted elsewhere, there are several lines of dialogue in the script which are male chauvinist slams against women, in particular, against the woman scientist in the story, Dr. Ruth Adams, by both Cal and Exeter. Some of these were caught by the script and continuity assistant on the film as it was being filmed, and deleted, but some were unexplainably overlooked and left in.

The "dubbed voices" you refer to at the opening scene at the airport with Cal and the Lockheed jet were probably looped (a process known as Foley and ADR) because they were outside on a noisy airfield and all the actors in this scene had to dub in their own voices back in the studio after the scene was shot. This is a common practice in movies to this day.

Cal Meacham's deep, resonant voice is actually that of actor Rex Reason, the star who played Cal.

Dejael

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These are all interesting comments and I've enjoyed reading them, but it's sometimes unnecessarily off-putting to dwell too much on plot lapses and development. One man's cup of tea is another's annoyance. Remember, the oft-mentioned criticism of "Citizen Kane" -- that no one was around to hear Kane's last words when he died, so the focus of the entire film (certainly one of the best ever made) is puzzling in its origins. . . I really enjoy this film -- warts and all.

Btw, I've never thought there was a problem with the monsters. They provide the most indelible images in the film, for me at least. If I'm not mistaken, they are insects bred for manual labor (that just went berserk in the bombardment), not for combat duties. Therefore, their vulnerability to a good stout wack with a baseball bad isn't a problem for me. When I first saw this film as a ten year old, those damn bugs scared hell out of me . . . couldn't sleep for days . . . the principle reason for their presence I think.

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Yes, one man's trash is another man's treasure, and often we debate the values of apples vs. oranges. It's all inclusive in the statement 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'.
I love this film too, in spite of its somewhat obvious flaws, because, as French film critic Raymond Durgnat so brilliantly observed in his 1966 book "FILMS AND FEELINGS" in his wonderful in-depth analysis of THIS ISLAND EARTH, that the movie is the "triumph of poetry over pulp" in its artistic beauty overcoming its rather formula approach to the science fiction story. The film still stands as a beautiful artistic triumph in Technicolor. Everything works well together onscreen, even if some of the plot elements don't work in the story, or some of the dud lines might make you laugh.
As Forrest J. Ackerman also observed, even if the film doesn't always make sense in every detail, you are still left with a breathtaking sense of wonder after the end credits are over and you walk out into the theater lobby. You can just imagine a planet like Metaluna may actually exist out there somewhere in space, and that flying saucers may actually be coming to Earth piloted by aliens who observe or interact with us. I remember fondly seeing THIS ISLAND EARTH on a double-feature bill with FORBIDDEN PLANET when both films were reissued together in the summer of 1960, at a drive-in movie theater in southern California under a starry summer night sky, it was great to see the movie starfields under the canopy of the real stars above, and I was looking up in the sky to see if any flying saucers were overhead.
This movie was one of Forry's favorites, which he called "Imagimovies". These classic films serve to fuel your imagination, and often in those days, people had to use their own imagination more than the movie showing you everything.
For instance, I always felt slighted that the filmmakers never showed us in the audience the aliens from Zahgon inside their wedge-shaped spaceships as they bombarded Metaluna with their lethal guided missile meteors.

One thing I love about classic films is everyone sees something different from their own unique point of view.
By the way, the mutants of Metaluna were not insects or arachnoids, but cross-bred humanoids with crustaceans, so you have a bizarre creature with lobster or crab-like pincer claws...and a huge exposed brain and red veins, which made it look horrific.
And in the scene you mention, cwente2, I too was thrilled to see this movie for the first time as a boy of 8 in the summer of 1955...
Cal retrieves a fire extinguisher from the Piper Cub airplane in the cargo hold of the flying saucer to fight off the mutant after it attacks Exeter and mortally wounds him by ripping open his abdomen. It wasn't a baseball bat Cal used as a weapon.

Dejael

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Your comments and those you referenced express my own feelings quite well. It's fun to talk about the details. Presumably, that's one of the things film buffs enjoy doing, myself included. But, as you and the others point out, it's the overall work and its effect on the viewer that counts most. Rather like looking at a painting and pointing out a wasted brush stroke or two -- it's the complete work we're asked to appreciate.

Btw, I know it wasn't a baseball bat that dropped the mutant -- a little hyperbole on my part.

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Dejael
Thank you for that wonderful, and very informative first post. I love THIS ISLAND EARTH, it's one of those almost perfect sci-fi movies from the 50's.

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All great information for a TIE fan like myself. However, The plane used was not a Piper Cub but an Aeronca Chief. In addition the sound of starting the Aeronca engine is in fact the starting sound of a large radial engine, not dissimilar to the DC3 used to transport Cal. In any case, super information from this post.

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Thank you, pjaudinet_sr , for your post reply. That's interesting, and I thank you for that correction of my long-held assumption that the small plane in TIE was a Piper Cub. A Piper Cub is what the director's script notes called for, and the plane they used certainly bears a close resemblance to one. Since I never researched this plane, I appreciate you bringing this detail to my attention. I did research the Lockheed T-33A jet used in the movie, and the DC-3 Dakota, but not this one. I will look it up!

Dejael

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Dajael, you're quiet welcome. The Piper Cub (derived from the Taylor Cub) is a tandem aircraft in which the pilot sites in the rear seat and passenger sits in the front. The Aeronca "Chief" is side by side seating as shown in TIE. I have flown the Aeronca. The only Cub like plane I've flown is Taylorcraft L2 which was also derived from the Taylor Cub. I did love the naivete of the scene with all the reporters crowded around Cal's plane as he climbs in. No pre-flight, no safety measure, just like jumping into your car. Not likely!
Cheers

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Hi, I got some good photos of both the Piper Cub and the Aeronca Chief from the internet. You're absolutely right. The Aeronca had a nice instrument panel that looks like one on a classic 1950s-era American car.
Yes the scene at Washington D.C. airport with the reporters gathered around Cal was filmed at Van Nuys airport in San Fernando Valley. It did look like that, but I'm sure that Cal already did his pre-flight checklist and safety check before the reporters showed up before the scene we are shown. It wasn't shown because that's not moving the story forward.
By the way, I'm going to visit Rex Reason and his wife Shirley this coming week at their beautiful futuristic home in Diamond Bar, California. They have invited us over for dinner. It should be an interesting evening!

Dejael

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I grew up very near Van Nuys airport and used to pour over the abandoned aircraft with my friends. That was my early interest in aviation which continued all of my life. I hadn't thought about the fact that any normal actions by the pilot would add nothing to the story. Good point. I bow to your experience and knowledge of the movie industry. My experience was with the writing end as my stepfather Milton M. Raison was a writer of books, movies and television with many credits in the 40s, 50s and 60s. I don't think I have seen comments with as much information as yours on any other film. Good work and best of luck on your projects.

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For example, as I have noted elsewhere, there are several lines of dialogue in the script which are male chauvinist slams against women, in particular, against the woman scientist in the story, Dr. Ruth Adams, by both Cal and Exeter.

It seems highly unlikely that anyone would have objected to those purported examples of "male chauvinism" -- a concept that didn't exist until the 1970s -- at the time the picture was made. First, there's Exeter's line suggesting that Ruth, "as a woman," ought to be curious about where they're headed. I've never heard it suggested that women are naturally more "curious" than men, but I don't see how anyone would have been offended by that idea in 1956. And then there's Cal calling Ruth a "sissy" about the icy water. In the context of the film, it sounds much more like gentle and friendly teasing than a "rude and inappropriate comment."



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Then we have the less significant but just as mindboggling flaws. For example, why does Meetchum pull the plug on the machine early on after first conversing with Exeter? There really was little sign of any danger, yet he flips out. It wouldn't be a problem except it conflicts with everything we know about the character.

Actually it is very typical of the character. he attempted to save the machine form self destruction by turning it off. the only way he knew of turning it off is pulling the plug.

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Look at it from the audiences POV.. not the aliens.
Back in the early to mid fifties..
Besides atomic bombs there came the idea that atomic energy could be used for all kinds of future peaceful product purposes.
So average American had no limitations as to what could be done with nuclear energy.
Hell, yea I see, atomic toasters & atomic dishwashers and atomic ballpoint pens.. etc.. Get it...
That somehow OUR atomic energy knowledge was superior ........ somehow....

I'm amazed looking at comments on so many message movie boards of people viewing old movies, out of context..
If you want to get a great insight of this movie.. Study abit of cultural/ social American history of the era.. and it all comes together. Transporting you to another time and another way of thinking of things...
I mean, hey we don't have it so bad.. We've got 'Amer Idol' 'SuperLameDweeb' this 'MoronDancer' that.. ... etc...

As Bugs use to say.

'What a bunce of ma-roons'...

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Thanks for your posts, Dejael; you've imparted more info on this movie than I've read anywhere else in the last 30 years. It's remained one of my favourites since I saw a washed out, two-colour print in the 1960s. Cheers, mate.

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You need to get a freakin life! Once upon a time there was a thing called true freedom of speech. Why is it bleeding hart sissies like you never speak out against all the male bashing from women on tv and film nowdays? I'll tell you why, because morons like you like to embrace your corruptors, if you even know what that means. Take a long look ass wipe, men were portrayed as men in those days and women were women. You actually think most attractive women really give a *beep* about anything nowdays beyond their immediate "feel good" needs? The line in the film (as a woman,,,ect,,) was not an insult but an honest to God truth back then and still today. Look around dip s h i t.

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Dejael,

two to three of your posts in this thread are TOO long!

If you don't want to be succinct, then put a link to the rest
of your details to somewhere, perhaps a blog.

What you are doing in a thread with overly long posts
is *begging* and *crying out* for people to scroll
past your essays and not read them.

Be practical.




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If by flawed you mean it sucked, then I'll agree with you.

It's MUCH better when you watch it as part of MST3000. They really nail the whole stupidity of the movie.

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I think Exeter decided to die because he felt his own race of people was fatally flawed, arrogant, warlike, etc. By choosing to die, he ends his own peoples existence. Perhaps he thought that was best.

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Dear Dejael,

many thanks for the background information to This Island Earth. I watched it last night for the first time and found it intriguing and filled with original visual ideas. Thanks again!

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