scene in Yosemite


when Ensign Keith and his girl May are at Yosemite and they are walking at night,right when they kiss for the first time there is a waterfall of fire or lava.a split second before the "waterfall" starts you can clearly hear someone shout "Let the fire fall".is this the director giving off camera instructions or an announcer at Yosemite.I know that those scenes were filmed on location but I have never been to Yosemite and don't know if they do those kind of tour guide announcements in the park.is this a slip up or is it the actual on location sounds of the park?any info out there???!

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Check out this website: yosemitefirefall.org

This used to be a big attraction at Yosemite but was halted in 1968 as not being environmentally correct. Interestingly, the website states that the "firefall" was seldom performed during World War II, so Willie Keith and May Wynn likely wouldn't have been able to see it as the film depicts.

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I would think it was taking a chance on igniting a forest fire.

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It was clearly Yosemite, but the dunderheads doing the DVD commentary call it Yellowstone.

There were a few careless mistakes on that commentary as well, for example, Herbert Anderson, the actor who played Dennis the Menace's father, was referred to as Mr. Wilson! As if no one would catch that mistake.

This is how the details of history change, at least partly, with laziness and carelessness. Eventually the public will believe the innacuracies.

Sam K

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tarmcgator is correct, the "firefall" ritual is no longer held. As good a film as "The Caine Mutiny" is, it cannot capture the awe-inspiring beauty of Yosimite. You have to go there yourself, and it's a stirring, almost relgious experience, especially if you come from the flatlands, as I did.

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thanks a bunch for the info. since i've never been to Yosemite and was born in 1970,the firefall is all new to me.to be honest, after seeing it in the film,i asked my younger brother, who backpacked through Yosemite a few years ago, about it,and he said he didn't see anything like i was describing. i kinda figured it was just something for the movie.that's when i decided to ask the question here.and lo and behold an answer comes.once again....thanks for all the info!!!!!

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You are quite right - Yosemite is a unique place in the world, a freak of nature with so much concentrated beauty it seems kind of unreal - like another world better than this one. I've been to 15 of the National Parks and Yosemite is the best. I felt like I was in a kind of temple or cathedral of nature, surrounded by beauty and jaw-dropping scenery. Everyone should go to Yosemite Valley at least once in their life. The best time is May or early June, but it is beautiful in all seasons.

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One or two days a year the sun sets on Yosemite Valley in such a way that the water fall is lit up. On a clear day with a reddish sunset the water will turn a reddish color. That is all that is left of the fire falls.

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Beyond its obvious merits as a film, "The Caine Mutiny" is also notable because it contains the only surviving footage of the Yosemite Firefall (at least that I know of - there may well be amateur footage of it in private collections that has never been published). The Firefall was first done in 1872 (though there is some argument about the actual beginning). It continued, with some periods when it was not done, until 1968. For decades it was done every summer night at 9:00 p.m. The embers were slowly pushed over the edge of the cliff from Glacier Point and could be seen in many locations but were most easily seen at Camp Curry (now called Curry Village). The final Firefall was on January 25, 1968. There is a whole web site just about it, with lots of interesting details, memories of it and some good still photos. It includes a description of the ritual of calls between Glacier Point and Camp Curry including "Let the Fire Fall!"
http://firefall.info/

Also, Huell Howser did an episode of his "California's Gold" program on the Yosemite Firefall, and visited the spot where the embers were pushed off, and interviewed several people who were involved with it.

There is also a natural phenomenon that happens in the last 2 weeks of February each year. The conditions must be exactly right for it to happen. Where it happens is at Horsetail Falls, on the east side of El Capitan, also in Yosemite Valley but on the north side of the valley (Glacier Point is on the south side). Horsetail Falls is a seasonal waterfall, like many of Yosemite's falls, but the area that supplies the water for Horsetail Falls is small (about 30 acres at the top of El Capitan). That area must have received a good supply of snow, and it must have started melting in mid-to-late February, creating the falls. At sunset during the last 2 weeks of February, the sun hits Horsetail Falls for a few minutes and lights it up so that it looks like a firefall. But it's just the sunlight hitting the waterfall. Of course the sun has to be shining, it won't work if the sky is clouded over. All these conditions must come together at the right time, making this a rare phenomenon. It was first popularized by the late photographer Galen Rowell. There is more information and a couple of photos at this page:
http://www.shutterbug.net/techniques/outdoor_travel/1206locations/

There was yet another firefall, with real fire, but a natural occurrence, that happened on May 7, 2008. There was a fire on the north rim of Yosemite Valley, between Royal Arches and North Dome. At one point embers from the fire tumbled down the cliff, creating a firefall oddly similar to the old man-made firefalls of Glacier Point - but on the north side of the valley, almost directly opposite Glacier Point. You can see photos someone took of this event at this page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ambitious_wench/sets/72157604946075767/

If you visit Yosemite National Park, you will not see any of these happen in person (unless you visit in late February and get very lucky to see the sun on Horsetail Falls). But everyone should visit Yosemite anyway, at least once in their life - it is truly the most beautiful place on the planet.

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I was in H.S. then and would go to Yosemite every summer and stayed at Camp Curry. By 7 P.M. we would put our beach chairs down in the meadow and wait for "let the fire fall" call from above. The ember "fall" lasted all of 2 minutes but it was spectacular...plunging over 1000 feet to the valley floor.

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