Right after the burial of Stonewall...
One guy says 'Look! There's a fire' -- the camera turns and we see tons of black smoke in the air. I guess everybody was looking the other way for maybe an hour or so, eh?
They do that kind of thing in movies all the time. Just so obvious this time though.
... and the rocks it pummels. - James Berardinelli
Yep, pretty cheesy. Same thing with Marian acting all over-dramatic and upset looking at the guys fight through the flimsy window (that moved each time she touched it) then the camera pans her movement from inside to outside the house that is so obvious it's a sound stage! lol
Also, this exchange was VERY over-the-top. What kind of person downloads all this info to a kid:
Shane: I gotta be going on.That's a very adult explanation to give to a little kid.
Joey: Why, Shane?
Shane: A man has to be what he is, Joey. Can't break the mould. I tried it and it didn't work for me.
Joey: We want you, Shane.
Shane: Joey, there's no living with a killing. There's no going back from one. Right or wrong, it's a brand. A brand sticks. There's no going back. Now you run on home to your mother, and tell her.....tell her everything's all right and there aren't any more guns in the valley.
Yeah, that dialog is kinda funny now that you mention it.
... and the rocks it pummels. - James Berardinelli
That's a very adult explanation to give to a little kid
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You've touched on something important. As was mentioned on the FAQ page:
"The movie itself is an allegory saying that the gunfighter, like the free range cattle rancher, are dying breeds. The West is being settled, civilized and developed. It's giving way to a new era where the rugged individual was being replaced by families... where peace would prevail and gunfighters no longer had a place." also: From the book> 'He rode into our valley in the summer of '89, a slim man, dressed in black. Call me Shane, he said. He never told us more.' But it was clear to us.
As Shane said at the end of the movie to Ryker, "your days are over". And so were Shane's.
I don't mean this in a bad way, but I think the first couple of posters are out of their minds.
The dialogue is great.
As one of the previous posters pointed out, the kid has been through some very adult situations throughout the movie. He was growing up fast.
And Shane, a real hero, wasn't about to lie to him.
And I actually don't see anything that Shane told him that he wouldn't have been able to grasp on some level.
Agree. Solid advice. Joey has seen a lot. He's ready to listen to advice from someone he admires.
shareLet's remember that throughout the movie, Joey has admired Shane more than his own father for precisely the things Shane is trying to live down. Shane doesn't want to be admired for his skill with a gun.
Shane loves and admires Big Joe; Big Joe represents the life he wishes he had and the truest friend he'll ever have.
Soy 'un hijo de la playa'
Sort of like in 'The Magnificent Seven' when Charles Bronson spanks the kid who said that their fathers were cowards. "Don't you ever say that again about your fathers, because they are not cowards. You think I am brave because I carry a gun; well, your fathers are much braver because they carry responsibility, for you, your brothers, your sisters, and your mothers...." Words of wisdom from two men who know what they are talking about.
shareThat's why Shane told Joey to grow up strong and straight. Straight meaning on the level and being a law abiding member of the community. One of the great movie endings. A sad one for Shane, but a happy one for the Starrets and all the other homesteaders in the valley.
shareYep, it's like in a war movie; there's an all out attack, yet 30 seconds into it there's still a couple of guys walking like they don't have a care in the world...until they're mowed down by machine gun fire.
This will be the high point of my day; it's all downhill from here.