Going through my over-the-air digital television channels today, I discovered that channel 31.4 in Las Vegas is now the "History of Television" channel.
This station shows some very old shows, like "I Married Joan," and "Ozzie and Harriet." It's schedule shows "Dragnet" as being on weekdays at 12am Eastern time, or 9pm Pacific.
Given that Antenna TV appears to have the rights to the 60's version of Dragnet, I can only assume that the HOT TV version is of the original 50's Dragnet. So all of you who have an over-the-air antenna might want to check if you have this station on one of your local sub-channels. I have seen old episodes (from the 50's) shown as irregular "filler" on some channels, but it will be a real treat if someone has picked up this show in a regular slot.
I was pretty skeptical about digital television at first, but it appears to be a great thing for fans of vintage shows like myself. With Antenna TV, MeTV, RTV, and not HOT TV among others, their are suddenly a ton of old shows that I haven't seen for decades available again.
"He was running around like a rooster in a barnyard full of ducks."--Pat Novak
In December 2012, I searched around on the Internet for some information about the 'History Of Television' channel. A website called rabbitears.info offers information about OTA (over the air) stations. You can search via your address to see what stations are transmitting in your local area. You can also search for stations by State, PSIP data, owner and network name.
If you type HOT TV in the network search, you will get a list of the markets HOT covers. I first checked on December 10, 2012 and there were only 5 cities that carried HOT TV. They were:
New York City (dropped as of Feb. 2013) Sacramento, CA (dropped as of Dec. 24, 2012) Seattle, WA Las Vegas, NV Dallas-Fort Worth
As you can see, Sacramento and NYC were dropped between Dec. 10, 2012 and Feb. 2013. That only leaves 3 cities carrying HOT TV as of Feb. 2013
I also found the web page for HOT TV, including their schedule. They don't have 1950's Dragnet listed as a regular series. Instead, there is a 30 minute block of time in their schedule titled "HOT TV Videos" which correponds to the two times you stated they aired the 1950's Dragnet episodes.
Apparently they must fit whatever they can into this 30 minute slot, probably series that they do not have enough episodes of to give a permanent slot on their schedule. I would think they don't offer anything new beyond the 30 or so public domain episodes offered by the 'cheapie' DVD manufacturers that have circulated for years.
I state this because HOT TV's entire schedule (except for some morning kid shows such as Mustard Pancakes) seems to be all public domain old TV series such as Life With Elizabeth, Mr. and Mrs. North, Sherlock Holmes or My Little Margie. There are also three 2-hour blocks every 24 hours where they show very old (1930's/40's) public domain movies. On the weekend they show nothing but the kid shows or vintage old kid-oriented westerns (Annie Oakley, Buffalo Bill Jr.).
Their schedule seems to repeat overnight most of what was broadcast during the day.
Still, it would be fun to see the 1950's Dragnet aired, even if it is just the 25 or 30 PD DVD episodes.
I fear that you are right--that the number of early Dragnet episodes available is now limited to a precious few in the public domain.
You have to believe that someone in the Webb family must be in possession of all of these early episodes. Considering the number that were made--they were making around 40 a year for something like 7 or 8 years--there are a ton.
Look at the current interest in the old show "Route 66." Shout Factory recently came out with a full series set of DVD's for about $80. They were received very well and are apparently flying off the shelves. I was one who purchased that set. Dragnet was at least as popular as Route 66, and if I could get a complete or near complete set of the original set I would be first in line to buy it. Few people out there realize how very important the first Dragnet was in the history of television, and how Webb's direction created a whole new school of thought on the direction of television. Certainly, it is a fact that the original Dragnet was a big part of bringing Film Noir to television. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to call Webb the Orson Welles of TV. This is clear even through the 30 or so episodes that are out there.
Also, consider how popular the 60's version of the show has been over the years. No offense, but these episodes don't hold a candle to the original show. Besides the fact that the original was in black and white--a small point--I think they might prove to be at least as popular
Are you listening, Webb family, or anyone else who owns these episodes? There is money to be made here. Not only that, but it is high time that Webb get credit for the genius that he was. Perhaps we could start a petition to get this going. If we could somehow get the word out, possibly a facebook page would be in order.
In any event, let's hope that we can do something to stimulate the release of all of these episodes. I sure hope that I am right and that they still exist!
(I'd also love to get a television version of the old Webb radio drama "Pat Novak For Hire" re-done for modern TV. This spoof of Hard-Boiled fiction was absolutely hilarious and was of the highest quality. The only problem would be trying to find a current actor who could recreate the inimitable style of Webb. What a great talent this guy was!)
"He was running around like a rooster in a barnyard full of ducks."--Pat Novak
In his day, I think that Webb got a lot more credit for his accomplishments than he does now. Of course, even then not everyone was a believer. I have a 1950's magazine article written by Richard Tregaskis (sp?)--the reporter who wrote "Guadalcanal Diary" that is about Webb and Julie London and he just goes on and on about the size of Webb's ears--admittedly two of the wonders of the world but hardly the sort of thing you would expect to dominate a story about one of the great innovators of early television.
I have another 50's article--a cover piece actually, featuring Webb on the cover of Time Magazine--that does recognize Webb for his innovations but tends to treat the whole Dragnet phenomenon as rather a fad.
In my view, Webb did for television what guys like Orson Welles did for the movies. To this day, you can see Webb's influence on TV shows. But do many people recognize this? Hardly. Most people who even know who he is tend to regard him as some sort of a crank who lectured and sucked up to LAPD on the 60's show. His rants against pot in particular have become a joke.
A film historian could write a book about how Webb influenced television, breaking old rules and innovating new ideas--if someone hasn't already done so. A few of us recognize this--obviously you do--but a full-fledged release of all of the original Dragnets would do much to bring more of us into the fold. With all of the lovers of film noir out there, I can't believe that Universal can't see the upside of doing this--and the profits to be made.
It's interesting to me that there are probably more hard-core Webb fans on the radio side of his career that on television. The radio Dragnet is pure genius, and it is interesting how some of his most ardent fans were police officers who appreciated how he, for the first time, dramatized police work for what it really was, and how he gave credit to his audiences for being able to pick up on police jargon and procedures without having to explain everything, or worse, dramatize it in the traditional sense when the drama was built in. You see the influence of this train of thought even today. He was a hell of a funny guy, too, as you can see (or hear) when he was doing shows like Pat Novak. It isn't so obvious today, but in his time, Webb was a great believer in equal treatment among races. I don't know if he ever marched with Martin Luther King Jr., but by portraying blacks, as well as other ethnic groups, as every day people whose hopes and dreams largely mirrored the white majority, he did much to make people rethink their old stereotypes and prejudices.
Just as an aside--I recognize your handle and see that we frequently comment on the same shows. May I congratulate you on your (obviously) superior taste!
Good to see that there are other geniuses posting out there on IMDB--or cranks, depending on your point of view!
"He was running around like a rooster in a barnyard full of ducks."--Pat Novak
It's nice to hear that others truly appreciate and admire Jack Webb and what he did for radio, movies, and television. I've been a Jack Webb fan since 2009; wish I would've known about him sooner. Love Dragnet (all forms), Adam-12, and Emergency!