The Big Seventeen


Anybody else see this episode? Kinda freaked me out, as I guess was its purpose to try and scare the then teenaged crowd away from drugs.

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I've been loading the classic radio series on my Ipod for a while now and got interested in seeing the show. The Big 17 was darker than I expected.

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Webb did several episodes about Pot and the dangers of it making you crazy. He also made sure he talked about pot as a drug that leads to stronger drugs. Both of which were the standard mantra to scare kids in the 50's and 60's. I remember an episode of Dragnet 1967 where the babysitter used pot and let the baby drown in the bath tub because she had freaked out on pot. It is quite funny for being very outdated. The Big Seventeen at least talks about Heroin. The saddest part of it all, is that Webb always overreacted to pot and yet his show was spnsored by Chesterfield cigerettes that killed millions more than pot ever did. And of course cigerettes fianlly killed Webb too. I am not pro pot, but I do know it is not as bad as Webb always made it sound.

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Well you're clearly speaking as someone who never knew anybody who with that stuff, ruined their lives. I however do know somebody who used that stuff and ruined his life because of it, my cousin, marijuana and nothing else, and he's been arrested, lost most of his rights and is in and out of hospitals now because of it. I never saw cigarettes do that to a person over the course of a few months or couple years, granted they may be more dangerous, but nobody's pulled them off the market yet so what does that tell you?

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It tells me that as long as the government is taking in millions of dollars on cigarette taxes, tobacco is A-O.K. by them! Don't kid yourself; if they made the same amount on taxing pot, there would be billboards pushing it.

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Funny, I just watched that episode earlier tonight for the first time. I liked it. Haven't seen a bad episode of Dragnet yet!

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I just watched "The Big Seventeen," which was on a DVD I bought at a dollar store with several other episodes. Maybe it looks naive by today's standards, but I still found it extremely effective. 8/10 stars from me.

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Just watched it this afternoon.Kids riot on marijuana? More like they'd be semi comatose after eating everything they could lay their hands on.Cheech and Chong meet Dragnet.What would Sgt Friday have made of skunk?

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Word. The only rioting kids would do on marijuana is when they're down to stems and seeds. Just as soon as they finish this bag of Doritos and this carton of Cherry Garcia. Hey, where did you put the remote? Am I right, people?

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Yes, Warped, I've seen my share of violent drunks, but can't remember ever seeing anyone get violent from smoking pot. Like you said, worst case scenario would be ripping off a convenience store of all of their snack food...and then forgetting where they parked the getaway car.

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Dude, you are so right! If someone is going to do drugs, pot certainly seems like one of the safer choices. But I wouldn't feel completely comfortable being a passenger if they ever found the car, assuming they'd be able to find the ignition, the gear shift and the accelerator. Big "if" there.

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They did mention that the kids also took some other stuff, I would imagine stimulants. Being on both pot and stimulants at the same time could conceivably make kids particularly rowdy...

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Somehow I missed that. Thanks.

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....interest me because they depict teenage "gangs" and drug dealers as typical American suburban kids, as if Archie and Jughead were leading gangs or pushing drugs. obviously some "typical suburban kids" do that but in none of the Dragnet episodes do I see any black faces. Latinos are represented, unusually in a benign manner. But Sgt. Friday's LAPD mostly deals with white criminals and victim. It's as if Watts didn't exist.

But that's tue of much of TV at this time. Harlem doesn't show up on "Naked City", either.



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I think that's because, other than "Amos and Andy" (which obviously had to have black actors), you didn't see blacks in ANY TV shows in the early '50s. I'm sure that if someone wants to nitpick that they can prove me wrong by finding a black actor in some minor one time role, but again, it would most likely be playing the part of a stable boy or some other subservient character.

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schappe, I think that the point of the "Archie and Jughead get high" aspect of it was to say to all of the parents watching the show, "Hey, you might think that this can't happen in your town to your kid, BUT IT CAN!!!".

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