The fight scene in the woodcuter's version
That scene is the single most realistic swordfighting scene in all of cinema.
shareThat scene is the single most realistic swordfighting scene in all of cinema.
shareI agree. It's the most realistic and intense scene of swordfighting I have ever seen.
shareExcept when the samurai gets dragged all the way to the bandit's sword. That was very silly. He could have let go and grabbed his own sword before the bandit even made it to his own.
shareI don't know I feel that it was purposefully kind of lame. Both the bandit and the husband had just had their masculinity and pride bashed by the wife and the fight itself showed that kind of scared, pathetic nature that was outed in them from that particular telling of the story. That being said it was still an intense life-or-death struggle.
shareThat was the point of the scene, and also why people are praising it. A real life or death samurai sword fight would not be a crazy 20 blow exchange with masterful execution like the initial exaggerated one. A fight would either be decided in a few blows, or probably look rather lame like this as both combatants are scared of dying a horrible death.
shareI don't know if it would look so lame if they were both real fighters. It's almost like saying that this fight is what truly happened and that the initial fight isn't. We don't know what happened (maybe none of what anyone said happened.)
These two fighters were, at the time, both emasculated and so they put forth an emasculated fight. This is a cohesion that I always felt that Kurosawa was aiming for. I don't know if we can say that most people would act so skittish in a sword fight. It's all depicted within context of the story not so much within the context of what realistic sword fighting is. It's more poetic than realistic. - just my opinion.
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First, I agree that this is how 99% of fights to the death would probably look. The fear Mifune conveys is palpable, but I don't think that was the only point of shooting the battle this way. valedictatorian1 you're correct in pointing out that they were both supposed to be experienced swordsmen.
As someone else said in another post, each storyteller tried to cover their own insecurities in the version they told. The last man was sort of cowardly. He hid in the bushes watching the crimes unfold and stole the dagger. He couldn't admit he lacked the courage to be honest, so what does he do to make himself look better? He paints others in a cowardly light. They were said to be bumbling and afraid. The truth is somewhere in between.
He couldn't admit he lacked the courage to be honest, so what does he do to make himself look better? He paints others in a cowardly light.
wow entitled to your opinion of course but im at awe that you think that and people are commenting and agreeing with you...........90% of the fight choreo was falling down....and 1 of them was supposed to be a samurai?.........realistic?....if you guys watch it again and not see how falling down 90% of the time and stumbling was a lazy alternative to good choreo i just dont know im at a lost.........nothing realistic about it imo.....i could see some stumbling instead of maintaining perfect balance while fighting for your life....that could appear natural...but that was on a wholeeeeeeeeeeeee nother level lol...to each his own
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I agree completely.
Many people are condition in their expectations by dramatic media, and have become accustomed to see utterly fearless warriors executing perfect technique with every move, with no fear of death what-so-ever.
A similar scene (and very possibly influenced by this one) is the fight between Pvt. Mellish and Steamboat Willie in Saving Private Ryan.