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Why did Hart replace Moore?



Was there a contract dispute?

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Moore wanted more money. The studio didn't want to give it to him so he was fired and Hart was hired to replace him. Fans didn't like Hart as well, so then he was fired and Moore was rehired and got the higher salary he had wanted earlier.

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Read the book by Clayton Moore. It wasn't about "more money".. That's a myth.

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The production company claimed it was about more money, Moore claimed it was creative differences. It was a their word against his word situation and probably no one will ever know the whole truth.

I wouldn't have blamed Clayton Moore if he had asked for more money. The first two seasons of the show before he was fired ran for a year and a half straight with no weeks off.

Season One ran 52 episodes from September 15th, 1949-September 7th, 1950 and Season Two started the week after season 1 ended, September 14th, 1950, and ran for 26 straight weeks until March 08th, 1951.

Then the show was off the air for a year and a half before returning in September 1952 with John Hart as the Lone Ranger. The John Hart season also ran 52 straight weeks until September 1953, then the show took another whole year off before returning in September 1954. So even though Clayton Moore was off of the show only one season, it was actually a 3 1/2 year gap between his previous episode at the end of season 2 and his return at the beginning of season 4.

These long seasons then the year to year and a 1/2 long gaps in between seasons is why a 5 season show ran from 1949-1957.

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I have just watched Dawn Moore's interview on You Tube and she said it was over being paid over Lone Ranger merchandising-he wanted a financial share of the merchandising profits.

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I have just watched Dawn Moore's interview on You Tube and she said it was over being paid over Lone Ranger merchandising-he wanted a financial share of the merchandising profits.


That isn't quite what Dawn said. Dawn said the creator of the Lone Ranger, George Trendle, thought Moore was looking for a share of the merchandise revenue. But it was strictly paranoia on his part as, according to his daughter, Moore was relatively oblivious to the merchandise revenue. Dawn said that her father shared this with her in his latter years. Whether this was speculation on Moore's part or if someone with knowledge of the situation passed this on to him, who can say. What we do know is that Moore wasn't fired because he asked for more money. He never did. That story is purely apocryphal. It seems a certainty that Trendle thought the actor playing The Lone Ranger was incidental since he always wore a mask and didn't think it would matter to the fans if Moore was replaced. He found out the hard way that he was mistaken.

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Well, that does seem to support Trendle's reputation as a cheapskate of legendary proportions. However, it would seem to me that Moore would have had a very good case for a share of merchandizing rights. As I suggested before, he might have wanted better compensation for the personal appearances he made as The Lone Ranger in order to promote the show.

Trendle's failure to realize Clayton Moore's value as The Lone Ranger made Trendle look like a fool.

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YES, that makes perfect sense. I also suspect that Moore wanted fairer compensation for the number of personal appearances that he made as The Lone Ranger in order to promote the show.

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I also believe it was over creative differences-how the Lone Ranger should be played.

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Moore's Lone Ranger can be stiff, even pompous at times.

But the traditional (or old-fashioned) hero was often "remote" or reserved, so this stiff quality may be attributable to the direction rather than the acting.

Still, it's hard to believe that the producers wanted to replace Moore with someone who is the personification of wooden. Were they hoping to attract Pinocchio fans? 😉

I've never seen Hart in anything but LR-- including bit parts before he got the starring role. But listening to him is like listening to paint dry.

I'd like to have been a fly on the wall when the production team watched the first episode(s) with Hart as the LR.

Who knows, but I can't imagine anybody being pleased, much less impressed, with Hart's performance. I'm surprised it took as long as it did to get Moore back in the role he was born to play.

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Moore was positively vivacious compared to Hart. Remember, the producers exercised strict control over how the Ranger had to be played. Actually, Hart wasn't so bad in some other things. He was simply miscast as the Ranger. There is an excellent interview with Dawn Moore, Clayton Moore's daughter on YouTube. It shouldn't be hard to find.

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The Dawn Moore interview wasn't hard to find at all!

For those interested, click here: https://youtu.be/pR4DajPHFmQ

But don't thank me-- thank a certain "dknow4", who thoughtfully posted this link on Wed, Dec 7 2016 at 11:59:06. 😉

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From my standpoint John Hart was the quintessential Lone Ranger and I agree that John was more serious than Clayton but I preferred John's personification as the Ranger by a wide margin

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I disagree wholeheartedly and am a huge fan of John Hart who is the best actor I have ever seen and John Hart seemed more outspoken and had a stronger voice and he also could actually ride a horse unlike Clayton Moore who was never on a horse, I am elated that John Hart played The Lone Ranger because he was the most realistic. Clayton Moore, on the other hand, seemed too soft spoken and not serious enough. I do greatly admire both actors and they are remarkably similar but John Hart has a separate fan club and he went on to perform other roles

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