After being confronted with the fact that his teachings were the inspiration of the whole murder Jimmy Stewart makes a kind of confusing speech but I think it is really important if you want to look at the weird philosophy side of this movie. My question is, upon hearing all that, does Jimmy Stewart finally realize how flawed his teachings are OR does he feel that his teachings were misconstrued by Gay Ben Affleck.
At one point he says "who were you to think your superior" is he just in denial of his own theories?
I actually wondered about that too and it left me feeling slightly unsatisfied. He seemed to contradict his 'beliefs'. Was his philosophy merely a joke, just to wind up the narrow minded? Did he really believe what he taught and if so why was he so disgusted when his teachings actually became a reality? Naturally he would have felt full responsibility for the actions of the murderers but even so I was still confused.
I think he's taking a lot of blame upon himself for what they did. And maybe realizing that telling those kind of things to impressionable upper-crust boys who think they can do whatever they want isn't such a good thing.
James Stewart pretty much said in the speech: "You've twisted my words into meaning for your sick experiment. You make me ashamed of everything I've ever stood by" So yes, he does change his views, because murder is no longer just a thought he had, it became real. To someone he cared about.
In my opinion, a lot of his theories were nothing but talk. He theorized a lot, but he would never have put his theories into action. I think it hit him hard that someone actually acted on his words.
Yeah I thought he should have joined in with the guys or something. He talked all that BS theories excitedly and he was mad because someone actually performed it? Sounded very pretentious to me.
If he really believed what he said about murdering people, then he would have joined in with the guys. I don't think he ever really believed those BS theories of his. I think he just liked to hear the sound of his own voice.
Brandon even says to Philip that the only reason he didn't invite Rupert to help with the murder is because Rupert wouldn't have joined in - at best, he would have sat and watched. He just thought Rupert would still somehow appreciate the "art" in what they'd done. And in the conversation they all have about the ethics of murder, Rupert's contributions are relatively funny and lighthearted (advocating murder as a solution to waiting in line at the theatre or waiting for a seat at a restaurant etc.); Brandon's the one who clearly takes the whole philosophy 100% seriously and Rupert even seems a little disturbed at how vehemently Brandon defends the theory to Mr Kentley - heck, in his speech at the end, Rupert even says that there's something in him that meant he could never follow through on the theories he spoke about.
Stewart's character loved to intellectually play with people so it is hard to pin down what he really believed. He liked tweaking people.
He was arrogant but his purpose in the film is to show that you can share some of those beliefs but not to the point where you think your life is worth more than others.
"his purpose in the film is to show that you can share some of those beliefs but not to the point where you think your life is worth more than others"
I do not believe this is his purpose in the film. In my view, there is a message here about the dangers of uncritically adopting abstract ideas without considering their societal consequences. Ideas do not remain suspended in the abstract; they manifest in the physical world — sometimes with horrific outcomes. Rupert is not a sociopath like Brandon; he is capable of understanding and internalizing the consequences of his actions as soon as they are revealed to him. This capacity makes him the most suitable person to convey the film's underlying message (or one of them).
And also kind of a heedless twit, as others have noted. Anyone espousing a philosophy which, if put into practice, would be immediately monstrous, hasn't 'thought it through'.
Which seems so obvious as to be ridiculous, and yet we see so many on-line espousing philosophies & policies you have to question they'd have the stomach to perform if put to the test, themselves. At least I hope they would. I think it's far easier to say hateful things than to do them. I least I hope so.
There is no doubt that a gap exists between rhetoric and behavior; this is evident. Cases like Brandon's and Philip's are rare, but that rarity is precisely what makes them so horrifying to us. There is no doubt that, as in the case of Nietzsche, quite a few philosophical ideas have been put into practice — sometimes repeatedly, even after having failed in the past.
Anyway, the movie is not about policies; they are merely the result of underlying ideas. The film emphasizes the power of philosophy and ideas — they can shape moral or immoral actions, influence practices, dictate modes of behavior, and lead to policies design.
I would add that it is not always easy to discern the seeds of disaster within a particular philosophical approach.
P.S. For a long time, I have wanted to write a post about the use of Nietzsche's theory in the film. However, I found it challenging to determine what to focus on in this subject. The more one reads Nietzsche, the more enigmatic he becomes. There is also a significant influence from Dostoyevsky, but those familiar with his books know that he actually warned against the consequences of abandoning traditional values in favor of a new morality—the opposite of Nietzsche's perspective. Most scholars believe Nietzsche never read Crime and Punishment and .
I'm not enough of a Nietzschean reader to speak too broadly, but its pretty clear the end point of his ethics, such as they are, lead to elitism & autocracy of any sort that had a requisite 'will to power' - since he's explicitly contemptuous of majoritarian consensus (i.e. 'the herd'). From the little I've read, he comes across as a barbarian. He's missing that vital spark of pragmatism, or utilitarianism, without which any philosophy is irrelevant at one extreme, lethal at the other. His DNA is all over the fascist movements of last century, those of the present.
His insight that a modern ethics needs to ground itself in something other than ancient creeds or deities isn't, by itself, extremely ice-cutting. The hard part is finding a basis that a. captures widespread acceptance, by promoting peace & prosperity, and b. doesn't get a lot of people shunned / muzzled / maimed / killed in the process.