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Whoa! Huge omission from the slice-of-NYC-life aspect


They threw in boxing, dang pro wrestling and jump rope - I've never seen nor heard a baseball reference in The Naked City.

This film came out in March 1948. The Giants had stunk for about 10 years before the film was released. The Dodgers were better than the Giants in that time, but they weren't the Yankees. However, from 1936-47 the Yankees were in the World Series 8 times. They won 7. And even though the Giants and Dodgers were not at the same level as the Yankees, you still had 3 teams in town. No other city, naked or partially clothed or wrapped in a blanket, has ever had 3 teams at once.

Everyone says this film does an incredible job at preserving images of NYC in the past. I've never lived there then or any other time, but I don't think I could argue with that EXCEPT when it comes to this one thing.

Yeah, the movie is only an hour and a half. But the story takes place over 6 days. If you were able to do a reverse Purple Rose of Cairo and hop into the movie yourself, there is no way in the world you would have missed baseball in some form or another.

I know that in the grand scheme of things this doesn't matter. But being a baseball fan - I mean, c'mon movie people.

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This was also the time New York City Ballet began, the New York Philharmonic was playing, and there were great musicals on Broadway. Next time they make a documentary about all of the things going on in New York City, they had better include all of that, and baseball. Oh, wait a minute, this wasn't a documentary.

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theclockticks is making a good point.

NYC was a huge baseball town in 1948. Three awesome teams that were in virtually every Worlds Series.

I guess you can't cover everything.

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Just a thought, but maybe baseball didn't fit with the over-arching elements of crime? Boxing always seems to have criminal elements hovering around, but baseball is pretty wholesome, isn't it? at least in the late forties?

Also, it might not have been practical to include anything about baseball, as far as managing filming on location goes?

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Yes, true to the above - definitely. But, the baseball aspect could've been added by showing one of the characters at the luncheon counter, or in the subway etc with a newspaper and a baseball headline in prominent view. Would've only taken a few seconds, at most. Such a great and enjoyable film, nonetheless!!!

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Some of the slice of life montages could've show baseball, even if they couldn't get a game, they could get fans heading into or out of a ballpark.

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In 1948, none of the NY teams made it to the postseason.

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theclockticks is amazing.

Thanks for the insight. Wouldn't have even considered the parallel.

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They missed an easy opportunity to reference baseball, specifically the Yankees. There is a scene where Hallaran has to visit the Bronx County Courthouse to see Garhza's probation officer. The scene was filmed at the courthouse which is seen on every Yankee telecast. It's the building standing tall past right centerfield near Yankee Stadium. If Halleran took the subway, he could have passed the stadium which could have had a game being played at the same time.

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well I can see Clock's point but if you wanted to include all the important things from a daily point of view you also need to include Coney Island. The great retreat for the ordinary man during the summer. but it would to stick into the story line as well as baseball would be very hard

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What a bunch of yokels what does baseball got to do with this story? You want to see baseball at that timem go watch Pride of the Yankees or the Babe Ruth story...alas, those two don't show any crime elements to make it more wholesome...I wonder why.

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I'm not bothered by the omission, but I think it could've easily been included among the kids playing together in some of the scenes if a radio were playing overhead from the open window of a residence and the kids found themselves acting out the parts of their baseball heroes.

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They threw in boxing, dang pro wrestling and jump rope


You forgot tennis. Perhaps the most intense moment of the whole movie was the desperate Garzah looking out from atop the Williamsburg Bridge as, below him, in the distance, we see white-clad tennis players frolicking in the summer sun, oblivious to the life-and-death drama being played out above their heads.

Sorry if I'm rubbing salt in the wound. Yes, that should have been a baseball game!

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I'm a lifelong NYer but not a baseball fan. In fact, I have never watched a baseball game in its entirety. That said, baseball cannot be compared to wrestling or boxing in the context of this movie. Both sports have a violent element, which was key to identifying the culprit. Otherwise, neither sport was referenced in the way you want baseball to be. Baseball had nothing to do with the crime or the criminal. As for jumping rope, that wasn't a sport (I don't think Double Dutch competitions existed yet). It's merely something kids normally did in most neighborhoods, much like shopping for adults. While it's true that many neighborhoods had stickball games, they were harder to find than jumping rope -- especially in congested Manhattan. Keep in mind that none of the surrounding ambient scenes were staged, so if a stickball game wasn't already in the neighborhood they were shooting, Sessin wasn't going to stage one.

Would a baseball reference have added to the NY ambiance? Not in my opinion. When we talk about NYC being a character in the movie, we're talking about the overall infrastructure, much as the mansion is a character in gothic movies. A baseball reference would not have made the story darker or more exciting -- or "noir-ish." Nor would it have helped to develope the characters or move the story forward. If anything, it might have distracted viewers who hated or loved NY teams.

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I agree with sdc100. Believe it or not I would say most New Yorkers could not care a less about Baseball. Yes a lot do but it is not a essential part everyday life of a New Yorker. Secondly the movie was about a wrestler. Wrestling and Boxing like baseball is and was just important a sport in NY as baseball. As a kid I remember going to various Golden Glove boxing matches. They were all over the place. I believe the OP has fallen for the stereotype. Another thing. The station house was in Chelsea, which is downtown. The murder scene was in midtown Manhattan. The Dodgers were in Brooklyn, the Giants were in Harlem and the Yankeee's are in the Bronx. I do not believe mentioning baseball would of added anything worthy to the plot or to the ambiance of NYC. No one had anything to do with baseball and frankly most people could not care a less about it. My father was a homicide Detective with the NYPD and even though he was a Mets fan I doubt it was any part of his day while he was working a case And why was cops working in Chelsea working on a mid town case? They would be the Manhattan South squad. Oh and BTW having those kids play around the fire hydrant on a hot day is more a NYC scene then anything else could be IMO.

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Of course, Dassin might have screened Buster Keaton's THE CAMERAMAN, where Keaton treks to a deserted Yankee Stadium and stages his own inning as pitcher, batter and base runner. Or maybe SPEEDY, with Harold Lloyd as a go-getting cabbie who picks up Babe Ruth in Manhattan and takes him on a death-defying ride to the Stadium in time to make a game.
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Look at it this way. There were three teams in NYC at the time. You really can't reference all three, but if you mention one you annoy the fans of the other two, so it's better not to mention any of them.

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