The moral to the story
Never stick your neck out for anyone--that's the moral. Joan stuck her neck out for Charles VII and what good did it do her? He wouldn't even lift a finger to help her when she was captured! That's gratitude for you!
shareNever stick your neck out for anyone--that's the moral. Joan stuck her neck out for Charles VII and what good did it do her? He wouldn't even lift a finger to help her when she was captured! That's gratitude for you!
shareJoan is remembered as a saint, and the mother of her country's independence.
We all die eventually, so it is a matter of opinion what the most important goal in life is.
Perhaps, but what you're overlooking is this: when Joan defeated the British at that one battle(Orleans I believe it was) she stopped hearing those voices and assumed from that that her mission was accomplished. So at that point she wanted to call it quits and go home but Charles wouldn't let her.
shareAnd it also is not true that Charles did nothing:
http://www.jeanne-darc.info/p_references/p_biography_partisans/p_royalty_french/charles_vll_.html
("But it is not just to pretend that Charles VII did nothing to get her out of the hands of her enemies. In the Morosini correspondence we find, under the date of December 15, 1430, that the news that the Maid had fallen into the hands of the Duke of Burgundy was so widespread that Charles, informed of it, had sent an embassy to Philippe te Bon to say to him that if there was nothing he could offer him to induce him to set her free, then he would exact vengeance for her upon his men that he had captive.
Under the date of June 21 , 1431, correspondents of the same banker affirm that "The English wished to burn her (Jeanne) as a heretic, in spite of the Dauphin of France who tried to bring threatening forces against the English." The King felt a "very bitter grief" upon the death of Jeanne, "promising to exact a terrible vengeance upon the English and women of England."
These last words show sufficiently what was felt and said by the good people of France. We know, too, that during the winter of 14301431, La Hire, master of Louviers, made frequent expeditions into the neighborhood of Rouen, and that he worried the English government. In March, 1431, an expedition against Rouen by Dunois was paid for by the King. Another attempt was made against the Chateau d'Eu.")
I agree with your post... it is very true. Thank you for posting it.
shareI thought the moral was that there is no god and christianity is a farce.
At least that's what I take from a story that ends with a young girl being burned to death.
I agree.
shareI see your point, but don't blame God for man's ignorance.
shareGood point!
shareSo, a peasant, teen, woman, illiterate, is suddenly a military master which is miraculous, and you conclude there is no God...
Report of Duke D'Alençon:
"In all her acts, aside from the facts of war, she was just a simple girl. But in war she was very expert, whether to carry a lance, to assemble an army, to order a battle, or to dispose the artillery. All marveled to see how in military matters she acted with as much sagacity and foresight as if she had been a captain, making war for twenty or thirty years. It was especially in the placing of artillery that she well understood herself."
Also she stated that as a sign that her voices were true, she would take Orleans from the English and crown the King, which she did. Totally normal for a peasant illiterate teen woman.
Also her prophecies were always correct.
As to her death, it was just like Christs', betrayed, given up to a sham trial, and murdered.
The more one is conform to Christ, the more likely one will get such crosses.
Her whole story obliterates materialism, and proves Christianity is true.