Lizabeth Scott is the Real Star


See above, which is all I wanted to say really. This is one of my favourite films. Lizabeth if you are watching get in touch and I will put you in one of my films.

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Lizabeth Scott was amazing in this. It's a shame that the narrow minded societal prejudices of the time severely limited her success as an actress. She was just awesome in her prime!











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Can you further explain your statement, I love Lizabeth Scott but I never knew why she dropped out of films.

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Her bio page says that she was a lesbian. It's not a stretch of the imagination to speculate that in her day this sexual orientation was not only frowned upon, but probably punished.

It wasn't like today, where it's almost trendy to be a lesbian or bisexual. It was a different time.





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Thanks I always loved her but could sense something different about her.

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I agree, she was perfect in her role. Interesting information above.

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Really?

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Unless you read this somewhere beyond the IMDB biography information, I would think what you are saying is quite a stretch. First of all "society" wouldn't have been aware of her sexual orientation. Things like that were not reported in the press, like they are today.

Secondly, studios went to great lengths to protect their property, which pretty much defines actors/actresses who worked within the studio system. Each person was a "type" and the publicity machines went to work creating that image for the public. You had the girl next door, the mysterious woman, the exoctic type, the sultry type, etc. Great deals of money was spent to ccreate this image and an actress/actor was expected to play that role for the public.


Studios would also shape images through the use of rather innocuous casual dates between two stars, to more serious matters like put-up marriages to satisfy the heterosexual image, be it man or woman.

If Lisbeth's career was shortened for any reason ( and the lesbian thing is true) it could be she refused to play the game. When that happen A/A found themselves as being described as difficult, displeasing studio bosses/directors with clout, etc. Suddenly projects they were right for were unavailable and they found themselves finishing out their contracts in stinker projects, their careers languishing.

Another common ploy to bring actors to heel was to lend them out to other studios who either didn't have work for them and would put them in films agaiinst type, which the audiences responded to badly and that would be the end.

There was not the freedom we see today with celebrity's. A lot of yesteryear stars would be indebted to the sudios from the get-go, always trying to play catch-up. The studio would front promising actors money for wardrobes (picked/styled by the studio), homes/cars to create the right impression and an expense account. So immediately, when an actor worked, the money the earned was already spent. It would take a string of hits, before an actor could consider themselves independent and hope to have negotiation powers in the future.

As for actresses with questionable sexual mores, there were plenty and many considered to be some of the greatest actresses of their time (acting ability and/or crowd appeal). One must also remember, that many women saw acting as something to do before the married and had children. One of my favorite actresses of all time, Norma Shearer, went that route, as did the wonderfully talented and beautiful Grace Kelly.






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Unless you read this somewhere beyond the IMDB biography information, I would think what you are saying is quite a stretch. First of all "society" wouldn't have been aware of her sexual orientation. Things like that were not reported in the press, like they are today.

Secondly, studios went to great lengths to protect their property, which pretty much defines actors/actresses who worked within the studio system. Each person was a "type" and the publicity machines went to work creating that image for the public. You had the girl next door, the mysterious woman, the exoctic type, the sultry type, etc. Great deals of money was spent to ccreate this image and an actress/actor was expected to play that role for the public.


Studios would also shape images through the use of rather innocuous casual dates between two stars, to more serious matters like put-up marriages to satisfy the heterosexual image, be it man or woman.

If Lisbeth's career was shortened for any reason ( and the lesbian thing is true) it could be she refused to play the game. When that happen A/A found themselves as being described as difficult, displeasing studio bosses/directors with clout, etc. Suddenly projects they were right for were unavailable and they found themselves finishing out their contracts in stinker projects, their careers languishing.

Another common ploy to bring actors to heel was to lend them out to other studios who either didn't have work for them and would put them in films agaiinst type, which the audiences responded to badly and that would be the end.

There was not the freedom we see today with celebrity's. A lot of yesteryear stars would be indebted to the sudios from the get-go, always trying to play catch-up. The studio would front promising actors money for wardrobes (picked/styled by the studio), homes/cars to create the right impression and an expense account. So immediately, when an actor worked, the money the earned was already spent. It would take a string of hits, before an actor could consider themselves independent and hope to have negotiation powers in the future.

As for actresses with questionable sexual mores, there were plenty and many considered to be some of the greatest actresses of their time (acting ability and/or crowd appeal). One must also remember, that many women saw acting as something to do before the married and had children. One of my favorite actresses of all time, Norma Shearer, went that route, as did the wonderfully talented and beautiful Grace Kelly.






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Great Hollywood history lesson.

Thank you.



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First of all that article came out in 1955 and her career was already dormant.

Scott was very private about her personal life and dated many of the old male film stars. Her career is really fascinating starting out as an understudy to Tullula Bankhead. There is a major film based on that relationship.

That article was written by a guy named Rushmore who had a nasty habit of getting his publishers sued.

He is also known for starting rumors about Elinoor Roosevelt

Anyway I hope you are still alive to read this.

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savanna 2 wrote:

Unless you read this somewhere beyond the IMDB biography information, I would think what you are saying is quite a stretch. First of all "society" wouldn't have been aware of her sexual orientation. Things like that were not reported in the press, like they are today.


Lizabeth Scott achieved notoriety courtesy of Confidential magazine. Her career already had faded, but that definitely would have put an end to her.

Wikipedia still covers the controversy though IMDb doesn't mention it that I could see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizabeth_Scott

I can't say I've ever cared for her acting, appearance or voice and tend to recast parts in my mind, including TCM's showing today of the "lost" Too Late for Tears.

BTW: I'm in my 60s and grew up with a film buff father, the son of a film buff mother. I've read, heard and learned a lot about movies and the actors/actresses.



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She was awesome in this. I also love her as the femme fatale in Too Late for Tears.

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