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Sophie's Apartment...spoiler.. .


Did Sophie really just die then..."almost" a year later? Or did she die that night she ran out into the rain half-drunk half-drugged...ran away from Larry?

And did Larry really just walk away from her that night ...never to look back? At least not until he got the call from the police ..."almost" a year later? Or did Larry try to find Sophie? If so...why did he never look for her at her apartment?

Or did Sophie truly disappear ...only because she had actually been killed that rainy night...and the police just finally found her body...almost a year later?

The reason I ask...is because I'm confused...(in part because I saw the remake first...and her death was immediate). So I was surprised that "almost" a year later...Sophie's apartment/room...was still there with her belongings... untouched.

This woman was a drunk who was killed by thugs... (thugs who probably sold drugs or were johns)...yet her nice little room was still there "almost" a year later just waiting for her. Who was paying her rent all those months?

(Or had she cleaned up her act... since it was kind of nice place for such an in-the-gutter-drunk-N-drug-addict. And if she hadcleaned up her act...why was she still killed?)

I doubt if it was the brute at the night club paying her rent in her absence...or some other drug-pushing-john. Why would they? It certainly wasn't Larry...who apparently thought she had simply disappeared...and didn't know she was dead...or even where her apartment was. So who paid for it?

Realistically... it seems like the landlord would have boxed-up Sophie's few belongings ...and maybe stored them in the attic...if not just thrown them away.

It just would have been much more believable (to me)...if the writers had added a landlord...and the landlord retrieved Sophie's box of belongings for Larry and the police.

So...what was it? Was Sophie just then killed when the police found her? And if so... it makes Isabel seem less guilty. A 'sudden' death makes Isabel seem more like she pushed Sophie... but if a year had passed...then it would seem more like Sophie's own fault for not seeking help...and helping herself.

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Sophie leaves Paris and moves to Toulon. The apartment we see is in Toulon. It is several months after she left Paris. Her body is recovered not long after her death. So the room is not sitting empty for long. The Toulon police contact Mr. Maugham because they find a book of his that he had inscribed to her.

I think that Isabel was right about Sophie; she didn't want help. It doesn't excuse Isabel's behavior since she deliberately put her in the way of temptation. But Sophie was happy to fall off the wagon. The movie doesn't show a crucial scene from the book but Mr. Maugham meets Sophie after she has left Larry (she's in Toulon) and she explains how impossible it was for her to reform. She was willing to do it as long as she had Larry's strength to prop her up but she had no strength of her own.

Mr. Maugham says at the end of the book that it is a success story and that everyone got what they wanted. What Sophie wanted, he says, is death.

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Sophie was a coward that ran out, it was Larry that almost got killed.

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I'm not sure "coward" is entirely fair. She's a shattered human being, freshly plunged back into the numbing hell of self-destruction. She simply isn't capable of doing more than running; her drinking & promiscuity have always been her chosen path of running away from pain & towards desired death. I don't see how anyone can feel anything but immense pity & sadness for her.

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She could have stopped the guys from beating up on a guy she supposedly cared about, or at least got help outside. Despite her emotional condition.

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Yes, she could have gone either way. Your interpretation is just as valid as mine. I'm coming at it from having known people like this: sometimes they can rise to the occasion, sometimes the apparently simplest & obvious thing to do is too enormous for them. For me, Sophie was in the latter state … but who can truly say except Sophie?

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You’re like the most diplomatic poster I’ve ever seen. Nice handle. Fitting.

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"My blushes!" as Holmes once said to Watson. :)

But there's so much snark & ugliness on message boards, I don't want to add to that. And I'm well aware that my opinion is just that, my opinion. Every viewer sees a movie differently, bring their own life experience to it, taking their own interpretations from it. That's how it should be, shouldn't it? I'd like to think so.

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It’s my pleasure to offer my opinion when I see a high minded, informed and sensitive person with grace and humility. :) I’m going to try to remember your energy when I need to remember something positive.

Do you recommend Sherlock Holmes stories?

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Well, I've always enjoyed them, in part for the mystery aspect, but even more because of the friendship between Holmes & Watson. Those who love the stories tend to especially enjoy those little moments of the two of them just talking amidst the late Victorian/early Edwardian ambience.

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Sounds like fun reading. :)

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Was Sophie a drug addict in the novel? I did see any sign of drugs in the film, only that she was an alcoholic.

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We see people smoking pipes lethargically in the den where Larry finds her, so it's entirely possible. Anything to temporarily dull the anguish of losing her husband & child.

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Thanks, that makes sense.

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