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The restoration of the print


Just saw this on TCM and before the film they spoke at length about how much work they had done to restore the color to this film. I was not impressed. Shots in sunlight all seemed overexposed. Faces seemed washed out. Shadows all had a funny blue cast. When there was contrast on the screen, for instance a dark suit, the dark areas seemed all clogged up with no detail at all. I recorded this film 10 years ago and remember that the soundtrack had a funny hiss to it, throughout the film. It was much better this time but would sometimes be there under dialog, when the dialogue was over the hiss level would go away. I love this film but I am sorry it just doesn't look as good as it used to.

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Without some study of the history of color film technology in movies, which I'm not taking the time for tonight, I wouldn't be certain the color casts weren't in the original.

IIRC, Kodachrome was introduced in the 1920s, but it took perhaps a decade for it to be used much in film, and I'm pretty sure that's what Technicolor used. Kodachrome was a three-layer film, very complex to develop. Yet this movie had been saved as separations on nitrate stock until the studio got rid of all its nitrate due to liability issues resulting from its flammability. So was the movie shot by three cameras with filters on B&W, effectively making the separations directly, and then printed on Kodachrome for distribution? Or was it shot on Kodachrome and the separations made later? I don't know. Enquiring minds want to know ...

Edward

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<<<So was the movie shot by three cameras with filters on B&W, effectively making the separations directly>>>

Yes, sort of, but on 3 strips in one special, Technicolor patented camera.

OK, I'll explain the process and hope not to bore or confuse you with a too much technical stuff. (Please note that, as a Canadian I spell the word as COLOUR It's deliberate!)

Here goes:

The original movie was, like all Technicolor films at the time, shot on 3 strips of black and white film in a special single camera that used prisms to split the incoming light images into red, green, and blue components, each put on one of the 3 strips.

Each of those B&W strips were developed and then DYED the appropriate colour to make the 3 negatives. Yes, DYED. It was not a chemical process, except for that original development of each exposed strip of film.

The three negatives were then separately pressed, each in turn, onto a single strip of film specially made so that it could absorb each colour dye as it was pressed against it. As each colour strip was pressed onto this single strip, the colours would build up so that when the third strip was finally pressed, the full colour image would then be on that print, which could then run through a projector in a theatre. Every distribution print sent to theatres had to be made the same way.

The process was physical, actual dye impregnating the film strip, much like paper printing in colour, or lithography, as posters are made. Each pressing had to line up EXACTLY with the other two. It was expensive, but made beautiful prints.

That's why the film was saved on three strips of nitrate B&W stock. All technicolor negatives of that era were that way.

The studios liked Technicolor because, being a physical dye process, not a chemical process, it didn't fade with time like 3-layer single strip colour film prints did.

Later on, in the 1950s or so, Kodakchrome-style film became readily available, and a bit more durable, so copies of dyed prints were often made on such film because that was cheaper than the full Technicolor process.

What seems to have happened with "Leave Her To Heaven" was that the 3 original B&W negatives were thrown out, maybe in the '60s or '70s, so all the restorers had to work with were old deteriorated and faded colour prints, so they had to estimate, or at least use their own judgement, for the colour levels.

Whew! That was long, wasn't it? Hope that explains likes a bit more.

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Thanks! You will have to go a lot further to bore me with technical details. 😎 I read about photo technology (historical and current) from time to time and understand the basics, but since I don't work with it day-to-day, what I learn tends to fade. Your explanation ties a lot together.

Edward

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I thought it was perfectly godawful. I've seen this movie a number of times - at least four or five, and I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone thought it needed restoration - conversion from nitrate stock maybe, but not restoration. The Kodachrome color in all the prints I've seen was absolutely magnificent - deeply saturated color and so beautifully lit it almost had a 3-D effect.

They absolutely ruined this - I hope "unrestored" prints still exist. This one just looked over-photoshopped. I edit and enhance photos in my work and it looks like when I've gotten a little to free with the photo enhancement tools. The shadows were ghastly - the color flat compared to the original - too contrasty - yuck!

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You're all worrying me - an expensive limited edition (3000 units) Blu-ray from Twilight Time is imminent.

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As someone who had never seen the film prior to TCM, the restoration looked great to me. I assume if I had seen it before and had a different memory of the look of the film, it would be a different story.

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"Leave Her to Heaven" was shot in three-strip Technicolor, not on Kodachrome, and Kodachrome is not a three-strip process (as one poster erroneously stated).

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Thanks for bringing this up. In the reviews on this site, Gene Tierney's eyes are mentioned, and they are indeed a very vivid blue, but I distinctly remember her eyes being very very green the first time I saw this movie! I remember because of the very disturbing drowning scene on the lake - the close-up of her face and those evil, calculating cat-like green eyes! I thought it was the most beautiful face I had ever seen. Also, that god awful lipstick - yikes! I would agree with the rest of you that the colors are off, too bright, then too shadowing, too...something...
BTW,I noticed this also in Vivien Leigh's eyes in GWTW. Everyone knows Scarlett's eyes are supposed to be Irish green, but after the restoration they are blue! Vivien's eyes were blue, and I read that the directors(both of them) went to considerable lengths with the lighting to make them look green, so they were green in the original.
I guess restoration is better than losing the film altogether, all things considered. Hopefully techniques will improve. Too bad there are so few films made now that the trouble should be taken for.

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...when the dialogue was over the hiss level would go away. …


This bugged the bejesus out of me. There were moments of DEAD silence -- no ambient noise / sound, nothing.

I have never worked on a production where the sound people did not record 30 to 60 seconds of room noise. You would think that the restorers would grasp this fundamental.

I've got to grab a DVD before they go out of print.

Julie the Jarhead

I can't bear labels.
~ Janet McTeer

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Although the film was shot in Technicolor,those elements were destroyed in the 70s. The only remaining stock to work on a restoration or strike new prints are the Eastman color stock that the film was transferred to.

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Here's the first review I've come across of the new Blu-ray from 'Twilight Time'...

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Leave-Her-to-Heaven-Blu-ray/65407/#Revie w

One thing the reviewer notes regarding condition of prints (As Mayesgwtw39 mentioned above)... "As has become legend in film preservation circles, the geniuses at Fox literally discarded all of their original Technicolor elements in the 1970s and so a glut of Fox classics that were originally released in Technicolor now exist courtesy of safety dupes.".

To me those screenshots look way too clean, like the grain/texture has been scrubbed away. I watched this film a few years ago on a HD channel, and I seem to remember the print being very good, with a fair amount of grain, as you would expect for a nearly 70 year old film. I'm assuming the version I watched was the un-restored print.

I can't understand why 20th Century Fox would license this film to a company like Twilight Time, limited to 3000 copies. Why don't they release it themselves unlimited? I'm in the UK and it's very difficult to import those Twilight Time Blu-rays at an affordable price (Without incurring UK import duties). We are 7 years into Blu-ray releases and so many classic films are still unreleased. Films like Citizen Kane have only recently been made available for chrissakes, films like that should have been year-one (Month-one). Even the Criterion Collection have not got around to putting out the many classic Kurosawa/Fellini/Godard films that they previously released on DVD.


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... and I quote:

"The Twilight Time Blu-ray of Leave Her to Heaven showcases a superb digital restoration of this 3-Strip Technicolor film. I've seen original IB Tech prints and can say with enthusiasm that the disc makes Heaven look as good, if not better. In 1945 Technicolor still had a slightly unreal intensity to its hues, with warm face tones and (at 20th Fox) strong blues and greens. What would prove the perfect medium for candy-colored musicals sometimes seemed a bit much for ordinary narrative pictures, but seems entirely appropriate for this hyper-intense morbid soap opera. Tierney and Wilde, probably buried in makeup and carefully lit in close-ups, look amazing. The older DVD only hinted at the film's original look but this Blu-ray nails it. Forget what you've seen on TCM, even in recent cablecasts -- I took a look a day or two ago and what they're showing does not appear to be the new restoration."

DVDsavant

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We only had to wait a short time for DVDBeaver and their usual definitive, see-for-yourself answer.
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews9/leave-her-to-heaven.htm



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Sorry, even with the comparisons in this review^, & the isolated score track(I know it will sound good), I will have to pass on this. 29.95; the same commentaries as the dvd, + the prompt I will get from the company to spend 30 more bucks on shipping because 'my copy may be stolen and it needs to be tracked' ain't worth it. I'll stick with my dvd copy, -and my copy of the novel :)-& use the money saved to buy "Cleopatra".

'I'm supposed to be retired. I don't want to get mixed up in this darned thing.'
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